Stephanie7

"Jafir Elkurd" wrote:
> Do the brake lights work?
>
> "Al" <username@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> newsl4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2@4ax.com...
> > Hey guys, quick question for you.
> > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put
> the key
> > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of
> park. I
> > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be
> able to
> > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing...
> > AER

So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr
out of shift......

AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related???

HELP!

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Stephanie7

"Jafir Elkurd" wrote:
> Do the brake lights work?
>
> "Al" <username@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> newsl4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2@4ax.com...
> > Hey guys, quick question for you.
> > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put
> the key
> > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of
> park. I
> > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be
> able to
> > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing...
> > AER

So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr
out of shift......

AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related???

HELP!

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remco

> So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr
> out of shift......
>
> AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related???

I bet it is the switch going to your brake pedal - it controls the brake
lights and a solenoid (= a mechanical electrically control switch) to your
shifter. It makes sure that you have to put your foot on the brake before
you shift, as a precaution.
A wire might have gotten knocked loose or the switch may actually be bad -
you might be able to see what is wrong by looking up from where the pedals
are.

Remco

remco

> So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr
> out of shift......
>
> AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related???

I bet it is the switch going to your brake pedal - it controls the brake
lights and a solenoid (= a mechanical electrically control switch) to your
shifter. It makes sure that you have to put your foot on the brake before
you shift, as a precaution.
A wire might have gotten knocked loose or the switch may actually be bad -
you might be able to see what is wrong by looking up from where the pedals
are.

Remco

Stephanie7

"whybcuzremove" wrote:
> > So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get
> the casr
> > out of shift......
> >
> > AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related???
>
> I bet it is the switch going to your brake pedal - it controls
> the brake
> lights and a solenoid (= a mechanical electrically control
> switch) to your
> shifter. It makes sure that you have to put your foot on the
> brake before
> you shift, as a precaution.
> A wire might have gotten knocked loose or the switch may
> actually be bad -
> you might be able to see what is wrong by looking up from
> where the pedals
> are.
>
> Remco

so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done-
they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring
problem????

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Stephanie7

"whybcuzremove" wrote:
> > So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get
> the casr
> > out of shift......
> >
> > AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related???
>
> I bet it is the switch going to your brake pedal - it controls
> the brake
> lights and a solenoid (= a mechanical electrically control
> switch) to your
> shifter. It makes sure that you have to put your foot on the
> brake before
> you shift, as a precaution.
> A wire might have gotten knocked loose or the switch may
> actually be bad -
> you might be able to see what is wrong by looking up from
> where the pedals
> are.
>
> Remco

so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done-
they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring
problem????

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remco

> so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done-
> they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring
> problem????

They may be able to find it, although usually they only do brakes. They may
be able to fix it, but you'll be paying for their ignorance of electrical
things and most likely overcharge you. It is not a reflection of their
competance of doing brakes - The problem is really an electrical one (it
could be the switch, it could be a wire, it could even be just a fuse).

Do you know anyone that is handy with electrical things and knows how to
troubleshoot problems? A person like that would be able to find it pretty
quickly.

Remco

remco

> so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done-
> they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring
> problem????

They may be able to find it, although usually they only do brakes. They may
be able to fix it, but you'll be paying for their ignorance of electrical
things and most likely overcharge you. It is not a reflection of their
competance of doing brakes - The problem is really an electrical one (it
could be the switch, it could be a wire, it could even be just a fuse).

Do you know anyone that is handy with electrical things and knows how to
troubleshoot problems? A person like that would be able to find it pretty
quickly.

Remco

Guest

my experience with these cars is the computer burns a circuit and the shift
lock release quits working. its easy to find out and takes 10 minutes to
find out ...1 10 mm socket and a philips head screwdriver required. under
passenger floorboard <carpet> you will find 2 computers computer on right
side is trans control computer. remove 4 10 mm nuts from false floorboard
unplug computer turn plate over remove 3 10 mm bolts attaching computer to
false floorboard remove 4 philips screws and open up box . look in bottom
corner for burnt electronic components....ASE certified transmission
tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for info
djmcreynolds1@bellsouth.net
"Stephanie7" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
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> "Jafir Elkurd" wrote:
> > Do the brake lights work?
> >
> > "Al" <username@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > newsl4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2@4ax.com...
> > > Hey guys, quick question for you.
> > > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put
> > the key
> > > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of
> > park. I
> > > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be
> > able to
> > > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing...
> > > AER
>
> So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr
> out of shift......
>
> AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related???
>
> HELP!
>
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Randolph

djmcreynolds1@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> my experience with these cars is the computer burns a circuit and the shift
> lock release quits working. its easy to find out and takes 10 minutes to
> find out ...1 10 mm socket and a philips head screwdriver required. under
> passenger floorboard <carpet> you will find 2 computers computer on right
> side is trans control computer. remove 4 10 mm nuts from false floorboard
> unplug computer turn plate over remove 3 10 mm bolts attaching computer to
> false floorboard remove 4 philips screws and open up box . look in bottom
> corner for burnt electronic components....

Interesting experience, seeing as neither the ECU not the TCU has any
control over the shift lock solenoid. No brake lights and a shift lock
solenoid that won't disengage is pretty easy to diagnose.

> ASE certified transmission
> tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for info

You do this for a living? I see your posts in a large number of
automotive news groups,.

Jim Yanik

Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in
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>
> djmcreynolds1@bellsouth.net wrote:
>>
>> ASE certified transmission
>> tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for
>> info
>
> You do this for a living? I see your posts in a large number of
> automotive news groups,.
>

Sounds like a conflict of interest.

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Phillip Fiorini via CarKB.com

I had the same problem a week ago and worked through it successfully. See
my question on April 16. Anyhow, I checked the brake switch, the bulbs in
the brake lights and finally checked the fuses for the horn and the stop
under the hood. Lo and behold, there was no fuse in there at all.. the 20
amp fuse was missing from this car that, to me, was just three days old.
Anyway, I found a spare 20 amp fuse, put it in and voila, the horn worked,
the brake lights worked and I was able to shift simply out of park with no
trouble. Case closed, an epiphany experience for the cost and time of a
spare fuse that I already had in my possession... Check those fuses, even
replace it if you have any doubts....At least before you take it to a
mechanice. A sidenote here... a local mechanic mentioned that he has only
replace two solenoids on Honda in recent years, and both were vehicles with
more than 100,000 miles....
Good luck with your problems and I hope they have happy endings like mine..

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