civic big brake upgrade - pt II
09-09-2004, 09:26 AM
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Re: civic big brake upgrade - pt II
SoCalMike wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Rex B wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are
>>> really ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those
>>> useless lisle ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one.
>>> after that, it was ||a piece of cake.
>>>
>>> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
>>> What brand did you wind up with?
>>
>>
>>
>> something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
>> normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away
>> from 1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed
>> up. the first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the
>> second, they just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with
>> seperately hardened insert.
>
>
> does sears offer the same guarantee if you buy lisle tools from them?
no. the official line is that only craftsman has the unconditional
guarantee. but after they'd whined a bit, but they did give me my money
back. customer service makes sears is my #1 choice for where to buy
tools, if they have what i want.
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Rex B wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are
>>> really ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those
>>> useless lisle ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one.
>>> after that, it was ||a piece of cake.
>>>
>>> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
>>> What brand did you wind up with?
>>
>>
>>
>> something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
>> normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away
>> from 1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed
>> up. the first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the
>> second, they just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with
>> seperately hardened insert.
>
>
> does sears offer the same guarantee if you buy lisle tools from them?
no. the official line is that only craftsman has the unconditional
guarantee. but after they'd whined a bit, but they did give me my money
back. customer service makes sears is my #1 choice for where to buy
tools, if they have what i want.
09-09-2004, 09:26 AM
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Re: civic big brake upgrade - pt II
SoCalMike wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Rex B wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are
>>> really ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those
>>> useless lisle ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one.
>>> after that, it was ||a piece of cake.
>>>
>>> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
>>> What brand did you wind up with?
>>
>>
>>
>> something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
>> normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away
>> from 1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed
>> up. the first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the
>> second, they just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with
>> seperately hardened insert.
>
>
> does sears offer the same guarantee if you buy lisle tools from them?
no. the official line is that only craftsman has the unconditional
guarantee. but after they'd whined a bit, but they did give me my money
back. customer service makes sears is my #1 choice for where to buy
tools, if they have what i want.
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Rex B wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are
>>> really ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those
>>> useless lisle ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one.
>>> after that, it was ||a piece of cake.
>>>
>>> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
>>> What brand did you wind up with?
>>
>>
>>
>> something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
>> normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away
>> from 1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed
>> up. the first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the
>> second, they just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with
>> seperately hardened insert.
>
>
> does sears offer the same guarantee if you buy lisle tools from them?
no. the official line is that only craftsman has the unconditional
guarantee. but after they'd whined a bit, but they did give me my money
back. customer service makes sears is my #1 choice for where to buy
tools, if they have what i want.
09-09-2004, 02:06 PM
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Re: civic big brake upgrade - pt II
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:07:21 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
||Rex B wrote:
||> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
||>
||> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are really
||> ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those useless lisle
||> ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one. after that, it was
||> ||a piece of cake.
||>
||> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
||> What brand did you wind up with?
||
||something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
||normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away from
||1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed up. the
||first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the second, they
||just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with seperately hardened insert.
Probably Performance Tool. We well those, and they are almost always a good
value for the money, and the guarantee is just like a name-brand tool - free
replacement, no problem.
Texas Parts Guy
||Rex B wrote:
||> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
||>
||> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are really
||> ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those useless lisle
||> ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one. after that, it was
||> ||a piece of cake.
||>
||> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
||> What brand did you wind up with?
||
||something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
||normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away from
||1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed up. the
||first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the second, they
||just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with seperately hardened insert.
Probably Performance Tool. We well those, and they are almost always a good
value for the money, and the guarantee is just like a name-brand tool - free
replacement, no problem.
Texas Parts Guy
09-09-2004, 02:06 PM
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Re: civic big brake upgrade - pt II
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:07:21 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
||Rex B wrote:
||> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
||>
||> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are really
||> ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those useless lisle
||> ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one. after that, it was
||> ||a piece of cake.
||>
||> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
||> What brand did you wind up with?
||
||something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
||normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away from
||1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed up. the
||first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the second, they
||just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with seperately hardened insert.
Probably Performance Tool. We well those, and they are almost always a good
value for the money, and the guarantee is just like a name-brand tool - free
replacement, no problem.
Texas Parts Guy
||Rex B wrote:
||> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:05:56 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
||>
||> ||the only thing about the trailing arms is that the torx bolts are really
||> ||tight in there - probably loctited. i broke two of those useless lisle
||> ||T50 drivers from sears before i bought a proper one. after that, it was
||> ||a piece of cake.
||>
||> Lisle used to be pretty good stuff.
||> What brand did you wind up with?
||
||something made in taiwan. "perfect tool" or something like that. i
||normally love lisle but in this application, they suck. stay away from
||1-piece torx tools - the heat treatment seems to be all messed up. the
||first one, the teeth chipped off in brittle failure, the second, they
||just turned off like butter. get a 2-piece with seperately hardened insert.
Probably Performance Tool. We well those, and they are almost always a good
value for the money, and the guarantee is just like a name-brand tool - free
replacement, no problem.
Texas Parts Guy
10-16-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: civic big brake upgrade - pt II
Rex B wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 20:43:21 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> ||next question - is there any vehicle in either the honda or acura lineup
> ||that has a 1" brake master clinder that's a bolt-on replacement for the
> ||89-91 civic? i've discovered that the 88 accord power servo is a
> ||bolt-on substitiute, and its master cylinder is close at 15/16", with
> ||the brake outs /mostly/ the same [not exactly, but close enough].
>
> I don't know about bolt pattern, but here's a few that the Raybestos book lists
> with 1" master cylinder:
>
> Prelude 1993 - 2001 except S
> Prelude 1992 Si
> Accord 1991 4-door, SE
> Accord 1992 EX
> Accord 1993-01 w/ABS
> Accord 2001 -02 all w/ABS, and 6-cyl LX & EX w/o ABS
> Acura Integra 1990 - 93, 1994-96 w/ABS
> Acura Integra 1997 -98 all exc RS, 1999 - 2001 all
> Acura Legend all 1989 - up
> Acura number (2,2 CL, 3,5 RL etc) almost all use 1"
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Texas Parts Guy
rex, what are the piston diameter options for the del sol master
cylinder? i'm trying to get a 1" that has roughly the same outlet
configuration as the original.
> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 20:43:21 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> ||next question - is there any vehicle in either the honda or acura lineup
> ||that has a 1" brake master clinder that's a bolt-on replacement for the
> ||89-91 civic? i've discovered that the 88 accord power servo is a
> ||bolt-on substitiute, and its master cylinder is close at 15/16", with
> ||the brake outs /mostly/ the same [not exactly, but close enough].
>
> I don't know about bolt pattern, but here's a few that the Raybestos book lists
> with 1" master cylinder:
>
> Prelude 1993 - 2001 except S
> Prelude 1992 Si
> Accord 1991 4-door, SE
> Accord 1992 EX
> Accord 1993-01 w/ABS
> Accord 2001 -02 all w/ABS, and 6-cyl LX & EX w/o ABS
> Acura Integra 1990 - 93, 1994-96 w/ABS
> Acura Integra 1997 -98 all exc RS, 1999 - 2001 all
> Acura Legend all 1989 - up
> Acura number (2,2 CL, 3,5 RL etc) almost all use 1"
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Texas Parts Guy
rex, what are the piston diameter options for the del sol master
cylinder? i'm trying to get a 1" that has roughly the same outlet
configuration as the original.
10-16-2004, 10:25 AM
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Re: civic big brake upgrade - pt II
Rex B wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 20:43:21 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> ||next question - is there any vehicle in either the honda or acura lineup
> ||that has a 1" brake master clinder that's a bolt-on replacement for the
> ||89-91 civic? i've discovered that the 88 accord power servo is a
> ||bolt-on substitiute, and its master cylinder is close at 15/16", with
> ||the brake outs /mostly/ the same [not exactly, but close enough].
>
> I don't know about bolt pattern, but here's a few that the Raybestos book lists
> with 1" master cylinder:
>
> Prelude 1993 - 2001 except S
> Prelude 1992 Si
> Accord 1991 4-door, SE
> Accord 1992 EX
> Accord 1993-01 w/ABS
> Accord 2001 -02 all w/ABS, and 6-cyl LX & EX w/o ABS
> Acura Integra 1990 - 93, 1994-96 w/ABS
> Acura Integra 1997 -98 all exc RS, 1999 - 2001 all
> Acura Legend all 1989 - up
> Acura number (2,2 CL, 3,5 RL etc) almost all use 1"
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Texas Parts Guy
rex, what are the piston diameter options for the del sol master
cylinder? i'm trying to get a 1" that has roughly the same outlet
configuration as the original.
> On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 20:43:21 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> ||next question - is there any vehicle in either the honda or acura lineup
> ||that has a 1" brake master clinder that's a bolt-on replacement for the
> ||89-91 civic? i've discovered that the 88 accord power servo is a
> ||bolt-on substitiute, and its master cylinder is close at 15/16", with
> ||the brake outs /mostly/ the same [not exactly, but close enough].
>
> I don't know about bolt pattern, but here's a few that the Raybestos book lists
> with 1" master cylinder:
>
> Prelude 1993 - 2001 except S
> Prelude 1992 Si
> Accord 1991 4-door, SE
> Accord 1992 EX
> Accord 1993-01 w/ABS
> Accord 2001 -02 all w/ABS, and 6-cyl LX & EX w/o ABS
> Acura Integra 1990 - 93, 1994-96 w/ABS
> Acura Integra 1997 -98 all exc RS, 1999 - 2001 all
> Acura Legend all 1989 - up
> Acura number (2,2 CL, 3,5 RL etc) almost all use 1"
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Texas Parts Guy
rex, what are the piston diameter options for the del sol master
cylinder? i'm trying to get a 1" that has roughly the same outlet
configuration as the original.
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