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MattA 07-18-2004 11:56 PM

Civic Engine Swap question
 
Hi All,

I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap a VTEC
engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I have
been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring harness. I
was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine mount,
axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.

Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I watch
for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected swap time,
etc.

I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing there
about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.

Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.

GM






M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 09:24 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6 (92-95
ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same except you
have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the ecu, the
other is ground.




"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Hi All,
>
> I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap a VTEC
> engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I have
> been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring harness.

I
> was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine mount,
> axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
>
> Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I watch
> for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected swap

time,
> etc.
>
> I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing there
> about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
>
> Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
>
> GM
>
>
>
>
>




M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 09:24 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6 (92-95
ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same except you
have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the ecu, the
other is ground.




"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Hi All,
>
> I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap a VTEC
> engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I have
> been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring harness.

I
> was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine mount,
> axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
>
> Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I watch
> for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected swap

time,
> etc.
>
> I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing there
> about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
>
> Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
>
> GM
>
>
>
>
>




MattA 07-19-2004 05:30 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
Thanks for the info.

The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a D15B
series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is a
direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even indicated
that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
VTEC. All I need is the ECU.

I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC into a
USDM D15B7.

Thanks.

Matt. A..

"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

(92-95
> ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same except

you
> have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the ecu,

the
> other is ground.
>
>
>
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap a

VTEC
> > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

have
> > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

harness.
> I
> > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

mount,
> > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> >
> > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

watch
> > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected swap

> time,
> > etc.
> >
> > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing there
> > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> >
> > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> >
> > GM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>




MattA 07-19-2004 05:30 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
Thanks for the info.

The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a D15B
series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is a
direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even indicated
that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
VTEC. All I need is the ECU.

I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC into a
USDM D15B7.

Thanks.

Matt. A..

"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

(92-95
> ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same except

you
> have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the ecu,

the
> other is ground.
>
>
>
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap a

VTEC
> > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

have
> > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

harness.
> I
> > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

mount,
> > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> >
> > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

watch
> > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected swap

> time,
> > etc.
> >
> > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing there
> > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> >
> > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> >
> > GM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>




M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 05:45 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
There is no such thing as a d15 vtec, 92-95 jdm civics came with a d16zc,
this guy sounds kind of shady to me, another reason is teh wiring, it is NOT
in your dx's wiring harness, and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and black.




"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:t3XKc.142801$wH4.7513062@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Thanks for the info.
>
> The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a D15B
> series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is a
> direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even

indicated
> that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
> VTEC. All I need is the ECU.
>
> I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC into

a
> USDM D15B7.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Matt. A..
>
> "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

> (92-95
> > ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same except

> you
> > have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the ecu,

> the
> > other is ground.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap a

> VTEC
> > > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

> have
> > > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

> harness.
> > I
> > > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

> mount,
> > > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> > >
> > > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

> watch
> > > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected swap

> > time,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing

there
> > > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> > >
> > > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> > >
> > > GM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 05:45 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
There is no such thing as a d15 vtec, 92-95 jdm civics came with a d16zc,
this guy sounds kind of shady to me, another reason is teh wiring, it is NOT
in your dx's wiring harness, and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and black.




"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:t3XKc.142801$wH4.7513062@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Thanks for the info.
>
> The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a D15B
> series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is a
> direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even

indicated
> that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
> VTEC. All I need is the ECU.
>
> I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC into

a
> USDM D15B7.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Matt. A..
>
> "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

> (92-95
> > ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same except

> you
> > have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the ecu,

> the
> > other is ground.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap a

> VTEC
> > > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

> have
> > > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

> harness.
> > I
> > > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

> mount,
> > > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> > >
> > > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

> watch
> > > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected swap

> > time,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing

there
> > > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> > >
> > > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> > >
> > > GM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 05:46 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
btw, check out this site for honda engine codes

http://www.superhonda.com/tech/honda_engine_codes.html




"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:cdhfdq$a7s$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> There is no such thing as a d15 vtec, 92-95 jdm civics came with a d16zc,
> this guy sounds kind of shady to me, another reason is teh wiring, it is

NOT
> in your dx's wiring harness, and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire

for
> wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

black.
>
>
>
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:t3XKc.142801$wH4.7513062@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> > The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a

D15B
> > series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is

a
> > direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even

> indicated
> > that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
> > VTEC. All I need is the ECU.
> >
> > I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC

into
> a
> > USDM D15B7.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Matt. A..
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

> > (92-95
> > > ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same

except
> > you
> > > have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the

ecu,
> > the
> > > other is ground.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap

a
> > VTEC
> > > > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

> > have
> > > > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

> > harness.
> > > I
> > > > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

> > mount,
> > > > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> > > >
> > > > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

> > watch
> > > > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected

swap
> > > time,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > > > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing

> there
> > > > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> > > >
> > > > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > GM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 05:46 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
btw, check out this site for honda engine codes

http://www.superhonda.com/tech/honda_engine_codes.html




"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:cdhfdq$a7s$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> There is no such thing as a d15 vtec, 92-95 jdm civics came with a d16zc,
> this guy sounds kind of shady to me, another reason is teh wiring, it is

NOT
> in your dx's wiring harness, and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire

for
> wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

black.
>
>
>
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:t3XKc.142801$wH4.7513062@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> > The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a

D15B
> > series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is

a
> > direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even

> indicated
> > that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
> > VTEC. All I need is the ECU.
> >
> > I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC

into
> a
> > USDM D15B7.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Matt. A..
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

> > (92-95
> > > ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same

except
> > you
> > > have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the

ecu,
> > the
> > > other is ground.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap

a
> > VTEC
> > > > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

> > have
> > > > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

> > harness.
> > > I
> > > > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

> > mount,
> > > > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> > > >
> > > > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

> > watch
> > > > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected

swap
> > > time,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > > > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing

> there
> > > > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> > > >
> > > > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > GM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Randolph 07-19-2004 06:21 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 

"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and black.
>

Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
to ECU.

There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a performance
upgrade.

Randolph 07-19-2004 06:21 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 

"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and black.
>

Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
to ECU.

There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a performance
upgrade.

M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 06:47 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the d15z1,
but it was usdm and it sucked =)



"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
>
> "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

black.
> >

> Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> to ECU.
>
> There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a performance
> upgrade.




M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 06:47 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the d15z1,
but it was usdm and it sucked =)



"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
>
> "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

black.
> >

> Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> to ECU.
>
> There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a performance
> upgrade.




MattA 07-19-2004 07:51 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.

This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.

I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.

Matt. A...

"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:cdhj20$bfl$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

d15z1,
> but it was usdm and it sucked =)
>
>
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

> black.
> > >

> > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> > to ECU.
> >
> > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a performance
> > upgrade.

>
>




MattA 07-19-2004 07:51 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.

This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.

I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.

Matt. A...

"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
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> yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

d15z1,
> but it was usdm and it sucked =)
>
>
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

> black.
> > >

> > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> > to ECU.
> >
> > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a performance
> > upgrade.

>
>





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