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M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
b16 = yummy

little more wiring im pretty sure though

for more help and education, goto www.honda-tech.com very good source of
info




"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:T7ZKc.142811$wH4.7535531@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.
>
> This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.
>
> I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.
>
> Matt. A...
>
> "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> news:cdhj20$bfl$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

> d15z1,
> > but it was usdm and it sucked =)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

> > black.
> > > >
> > > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> > > to ECU.
> > >
> > > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a

performance
> > > upgrade.

> >
> >

>
>




M.C. Tee 07-19-2004 08:03 PM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
b16 = yummy

little more wiring im pretty sure though

for more help and education, goto www.honda-tech.com very good source of
info




"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:T7ZKc.142811$wH4.7535531@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.
>
> This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.
>
> I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.
>
> Matt. A...
>
> "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> news:cdhj20$bfl$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

> d15z1,
> > but it was usdm and it sucked =)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

> > black.
> > > >
> > > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> > > to ECU.
> > >
> > > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a

performance
> > > upgrade.

> >
> >

>
>




Mista Bone 07-20-2004 04:02 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
Your info on D15B is incorrect.
The JDM market had the D15B SOHC VTEC motors, they were rated at 130 ps or
about 125 hp, same as the D16Z6. They consist of VX/D15Z1 short blocks with
D16Z6 pistons and head. The D15B cam is also a little more agressive than
the USDM D16Z6, why it has the same output rating.

M.C. Tee, you need to research a bit.

www.sohchonda.com
www.d-series.org
www.honda-tech.com

Might wanna look into the Civic Del Sol VTi's

To the orginal poster, your stock EX P28 ECU will run the D15B, but you'd be
better off getting the correct ECU or having yours chipped to D15B specs.
Adrian at www.hyperducktuning.com


"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:cdhfdq$a7s$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> There is no such thing as a d15 vtec, 92-95 jdm civics came with a d16zc,
> this guy sounds kind of shady to me, another reason is teh wiring, it is

NOT
> in your dx's wiring harness, and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire

for
> wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

black.
>
>
>
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:t3XKc.142801$wH4.7513062@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> > The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a

D15B
> > series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is

a
> > direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even

> indicated
> > that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
> > VTEC. All I need is the ECU.
> >
> > I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC

into
> a
> > USDM D15B7.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Matt. A..
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

> > (92-95
> > > ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same

except
> > you
> > > have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the

ecu,
> > the
> > > other is ground.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap

a
> > VTEC
> > > > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

> > have
> > > > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

> > harness.
> > > I
> > > > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

> > mount,
> > > > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> > > >
> > > > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

> > watch
> > > > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected

swap
> > > time,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > > > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing

> there
> > > > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> > > >
> > > > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > GM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Mista Bone 07-20-2004 04:02 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
Your info on D15B is incorrect.
The JDM market had the D15B SOHC VTEC motors, they were rated at 130 ps or
about 125 hp, same as the D16Z6. They consist of VX/D15Z1 short blocks with
D16Z6 pistons and head. The D15B cam is also a little more agressive than
the USDM D16Z6, why it has the same output rating.

M.C. Tee, you need to research a bit.

www.sohchonda.com
www.d-series.org
www.honda-tech.com

Might wanna look into the Civic Del Sol VTi's

To the orginal poster, your stock EX P28 ECU will run the D15B, but you'd be
better off getting the correct ECU or having yours chipped to D15B specs.
Adrian at www.hyperducktuning.com


"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:cdhfdq$a7s$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> There is no such thing as a d15 vtec, 92-95 jdm civics came with a d16zc,
> this guy sounds kind of shady to me, another reason is teh wiring, it is

NOT
> in your dx's wiring harness, and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire

for
> wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

black.
>
>
>
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:t3XKc.142801$wH4.7513062@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> > The engine I am looking for is JDM VTEC version and I was told its a

D15B
> > series with 130 HP. Its on sale on eBay and the seller is claiming it is

a
> > direct bolt-on to my car with no modification except ECU. He even

> indicated
> > that my car's (USDM) wiring harness has already two additional wires for
> > VTEC. All I need is the ECU.
> >
> > I am just curious to see whether anyone else has swapped the JDM VTEC

into
> a
> > USDM D15B7.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Matt. A..
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:cdgi2i$132$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > d15b from a 95 is the same engine you ahve, no vtec, you want a d16z6

> > (92-95
> > > ex) , and its 125hp. Also the ecu is the p28. Wiring is the same

except
> > you
> > > have to wire up the vtec selenoid which is 2 wires, one goes to the

ecu,
> > the
> > > other is ground.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qDHKc.168583$tH1.6582677@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1994 Civic LX D15B7 (non-vtec 106 HP) and planning to swap

a
> > VTEC
> > > > engine possibly D15B series from 1995 Civic EX (VTEC 130 HP). What I

> > have
> > > > been told is to watch for two things (1) ECU (P30) and (2) Wiring

> > harness.
> > > I
> > > > was also told that I don't need any additional parts such as engine

> > mount,
> > > > axels, shift linkage, etc. Everything else can be used from my car.
> > > >
> > > > Did any of you have done any such engine swaps? If so, what should I

> > watch
> > > > for? Do I need to worry about any other impotent parts, expected

swap
> > > time,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > I have looked at the following site on engine sawps
> > > > http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/5gtech/index.html. But, nothing

> there
> > > > about an engine swap from non-vtec to vetc.
> > > >
> > > > Any help or pointing me to any website is appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > GM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Mista Bone 07-20-2004 04:05 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
D15B's are legit, I would only pay about $450 + shipping though.

"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:T7ZKc.142811$wH4.7535531@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.
>
> This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.
>
> I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.
>
> Matt. A...
>
> "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> news:cdhj20$bfl$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

> d15z1,
> > but it was usdm and it sucked =)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

> > black.
> > > >
> > > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> > > to ECU.
> > >
> > > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a

performance
> > > upgrade.

> >
> >

>
>




Mista Bone 07-20-2004 04:05 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
D15B's are legit, I would only pay about $450 + shipping though.

"MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:T7ZKc.142811$wH4.7535531@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.
>
> This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.
>
> I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.
>
> Matt. A...
>
> "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> news:cdhj20$bfl$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

> d15z1,
> > but it was usdm and it sucked =)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue and

> > black.
> > > >
> > > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground, BLU/BLK
> > > to ECU.
> > >
> > > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a

performance
> > > upgrade.

> >
> >

>
>




M.C. Tee 07-20-2004 10:09 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
explain this 'legit' seeing no one ever heard of them and can find
absolutely no info on a d15b vtec engine



"Mista Bone" <mistab0ne@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:0n4Lc.2325$sx2.1288@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> D15B's are legit, I would only pay about $450 + shipping though.
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:T7ZKc.142811$wH4.7535531@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.
> >
> > This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.
> >
> > I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.
> >
> > Matt. A...
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:cdhj20$bfl$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

> > d15z1,
> > > but it was usdm and it sucked =)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> > > >
> > > > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue

and
> > > black.
> > > > >
> > > > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground,

BLU/BLK
> > > > to ECU.
> > > >
> > > > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > > > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a

> performance
> > > > upgrade.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




M.C. Tee 07-20-2004 10:09 AM

Re: Civic Engine Swap question
 
explain this 'legit' seeing no one ever heard of them and can find
absolutely no info on a d15b vtec engine



"Mista Bone" <mistab0ne@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:0n4Lc.2325$sx2.1288@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> D15B's are legit, I would only pay about $450 + shipping though.
>
> "MattA" <matta@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:T7ZKc.142811$wH4.7535531@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > Thanks guys; I almost bought into this eBay JDM engine business.
> >
> > This has been very educational to me. Again, thank for the info.
> >
> > I may have to look at option#2 B16A2 with 160 HP.
> >
> > Matt. A...
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:cdhj20$bfl$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > yes, vtec switch and oil pressure sensor =), and true, there was the

> > d15z1,
> > > but it was usdm and it sucked =)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:40FC4938.8FD9C64F@junkmail.com...
> > > >
> > > > "M.C. Tee" wrote:
> > > > > and i forgot today, but there is a 3rd wire for
> > > > > wiring your vtec, sorry, slipped my mind, there is a green, blue

and
> > > black.
> > > > >
> > > > Probably the VTEC pressure switch (VTM). Black wire to ground,

BLU/BLK
> > > > to ECU.
> > > >
> > > > There was a D15 VTEC engine of sorts, the D15Z1 which was the fuel
> > > > efficient VTEC-E engine in the VX model. 92 bhp, so hardly a

> performance
> > > > upgrade.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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