Thanks Scott that is what I was looking for!

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Thanks Scott that is what I was looking for!

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Rob wrote:
> Well............ thanks for that nice tip. You have obviously never opened
> a hood of a 2002 Civic and looked for the oil filter. It's not in plane site
> at all. I figure it's only accessible from the bottom end of the car engine
> bay, but don't have any car ramps to raise the front end up to see the @#$%
> oil filter. My Jeep had such high ground clearance I could always just slide
> under to see every think, but not with the Civic.

You're not going to be able to do it without buying some metal ramps
from Home Depot. It's not like they're that expensive, and the savings
vs. taking it to the dealer will make them pay for themselves anyway. I
have an '04 Element and I had a hell of a time changing the filter, even
with a ramp...

-Sonarrat.

 

Rob wrote:
> Well............ thanks for that nice tip. You have obviously never opened
> a hood of a 2002 Civic and looked for the oil filter. It's not in plane site
> at all. I figure it's only accessible from the bottom end of the car engine
> bay, but don't have any car ramps to raise the front end up to see the @#$%
> oil filter. My Jeep had such high ground clearance I could always just slide
> under to see every think, but not with the Civic.

You're not going to be able to do it without buying some metal ramps
from Home Depot. It's not like they're that expensive, and the savings
vs. taking it to the dealer will make them pay for themselves anyway. I
have an '04 Element and I had a hell of a time changing the filter, even
with a ramp...

-Sonarrat.

 

"sonarrat" <sonarrat@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>> Well............ thanks for that nice tip. You have obviously never
>> opened a hood of a 2002 Civic and looked for the oil filter. It's not in
>> plane site at all. I figure it's only accessible from the bottom end of
>> the car engine bay, but don't have any car ramps to raise the front end
>> up to see the @#$% oil filter. My Jeep had such high ground clearance I
>> could always just slide under to see every think, but not with the Civic.
>
> You're not going to be able to do it without buying some metal ramps from
> Home Depot. It's not like they're that expensive, and the savings vs.
> taking it to the dealer will make them pay for themselves anyway. I have
> an '04 Element and I had a hell of a time changing the filter, even with a
> ramp...
>
> -Sonarrat.

FWIW, I've given up on ramps and gone to a floor jack and stands. The total
cost is a bit higher but there are fewer opportunities for trouble (like one
ramp sliding forward on the cement or getting less than centered or driving
too far and coming off the front of ramps) and the jack method is more
flexible. You can't work on brakes or even rotate tires with ramps. It is a
moot point now, as I don't think any of our cars have enough clearance on
the nose to get onto ramps. If the nose of the car scrapes on parking
blocks, don't bother buying ramps.

Mike

 

"sonarrat" <sonarrat@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
>> Well............ thanks for that nice tip. You have obviously never
>> opened a hood of a 2002 Civic and looked for the oil filter. It's not in
>> plane site at all. I figure it's only accessible from the bottom end of
>> the car engine bay, but don't have any car ramps to raise the front end
>> up to see the @#$% oil filter. My Jeep had such high ground clearance I
>> could always just slide under to see every think, but not with the Civic.
>
> You're not going to be able to do it without buying some metal ramps from
> Home Depot. It's not like they're that expensive, and the savings vs.
> taking it to the dealer will make them pay for themselves anyway. I have
> an '04 Element and I had a hell of a time changing the filter, even with a
> ramp...
>
> -Sonarrat.

FWIW, I've given up on ramps and gone to a floor jack and stands. The total
cost is a bit higher but there are fewer opportunities for trouble (like one
ramp sliding forward on the cement or getting less than centered or driving
too far and coming off the front of ramps) and the jack method is more
flexible. You can't work on brakes or even rotate tires with ramps. It is a
moot point now, as I don't think any of our cars have enough clearance on
the nose to get onto ramps. If the nose of the car scrapes on parking
blocks, don't bother buying ramps.

Mike

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "sonarrat" <sonarrat@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4wjoe.5699$K66.4@fe02.lga...
>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Well............ thanks for that nice tip. You have obviously never
>>>opened a hood of a 2002 Civic and looked for the oil filter. It's not in
>>>plane site at all. I figure it's only accessible from the bottom end of
>>>the car engine bay, but don't have any car ramps to raise the front end
>>>up to see the @#$% oil filter. My Jeep had such high ground clearance I
>>>could always just slide under to see every think, but not with the Civic.
>>
>>You're not going to be able to do it without buying some metal ramps from
>>Home Depot. It's not like they're that expensive, and the savings vs.
>>taking it to the dealer will make them pay for themselves anyway. I have
>>an '04 Element and I had a hell of a time changing the filter, even with a
>>ramp...
>>
>>-Sonarrat.
>
>
> FWIW, I've given up on ramps and gone to a floor jack and stands. The total
> cost is a bit higher but there are fewer opportunities for trouble (like one
> ramp sliding forward on the cement or getting less than centered or driving
> too far and coming off the front of ramps) and the jack method is more
> flexible. You can't work on brakes or even rotate tires with ramps. It is a
> moot point now, as I don't think any of our cars have enough clearance on
> the nose to get onto ramps. If the nose of the car scrapes on parking
> blocks, don't bother buying ramps.
>
> Mike

I haven't had any of those problems with ramps, either in terms of
clearance or sliding. I've changed the oil in a '82 Honda Accord, a '95
Toyota Celica, a '96 Subaru SVX, an '02 PT Cruiser, my current '04 Honda
Element, and my dad's '04 Mazda RX-8. No problems with any of them..
(doesn't hurt to have someone help to guide you, though.)

You're right that there are a bunch of things that can't be done that
way, though.

-Sonarrat.

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "sonarrat" <sonarrat@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4wjoe.5699$K66.4@fe02.lga...
>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>>Well............ thanks for that nice tip. You have obviously never
>>>opened a hood of a 2002 Civic and looked for the oil filter. It's not in
>>>plane site at all. I figure it's only accessible from the bottom end of
>>>the car engine bay, but don't have any car ramps to raise the front end
>>>up to see the @#$% oil filter. My Jeep had such high ground clearance I
>>>could always just slide under to see every think, but not with the Civic.
>>
>>You're not going to be able to do it without buying some metal ramps from
>>Home Depot. It's not like they're that expensive, and the savings vs.
>>taking it to the dealer will make them pay for themselves anyway. I have
>>an '04 Element and I had a hell of a time changing the filter, even with a
>>ramp...
>>
>>-Sonarrat.
>
>
> FWIW, I've given up on ramps and gone to a floor jack and stands. The total
> cost is a bit higher but there are fewer opportunities for trouble (like one
> ramp sliding forward on the cement or getting less than centered or driving
> too far and coming off the front of ramps) and the jack method is more
> flexible. You can't work on brakes or even rotate tires with ramps. It is a
> moot point now, as I don't think any of our cars have enough clearance on
> the nose to get onto ramps. If the nose of the car scrapes on parking
> blocks, don't bother buying ramps.
>
> Mike

I haven't had any of those problems with ramps, either in terms of
clearance or sliding. I've changed the oil in a '82 Honda Accord, a '95
Toyota Celica, a '96 Subaru SVX, an '02 PT Cruiser, my current '04 Honda
Element, and my dad's '04 Mazda RX-8. No problems with any of them..
(doesn't hurt to have someone help to guide you, though.)

You're right that there are a bunch of things that can't be done that
way, though.

-Sonarrat.