Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that, and
I should look at the possibility of the engine flooding? If so, does
the engine clear by holding the accelerator pedal to the floor while
starting the car? Thanks.

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
> news:1148078403.117866.291900@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > Regarding the relay -- the "check" was testing with a meter using the
> > instructions in the Chilton manual. I always listen carefully to hear
> > the fuel pump motor at the ON position, before trying to start the car,
> > and I always hear it, even the times when the car does not start.
> > Wouldn't that indicate the relay is working? Also, the last time the
> > problem occurred, I kept the key in the start position for 15 or 20
> > seconds, and the engine eventually turned over. Let me know if this
> > helps get to the solution. Thanks.
> >
> >
>
> Sounds like a flooded motor.
>
> Perhaps you have a leaky injector -if your fuel pressure at the rail does
> not hold as specified.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

 

"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,
> and I should look at the possibility of the engine flooding? If so,
> does the engine clear by holding the accelerator pedal to the floor
> while starting the car? Thanks.

IIRC,holding the accel pedal to the floor while cranking is the right
method for starting a flooded engine.
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
>> news:1148078403.117866.291900@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > Regarding the relay -- the "check" was testing with a meter using
>> > the instructions in the Chilton manual. I always listen carefully
>> > to hear the fuel pump motor at the ON position, before trying to
>> > start the car, and I always hear it, even the times when the car
>> > does not start. Wouldn't that indicate the relay is working? Also,
>> > the last time the problem occurred, I kept the key in the start
>> > position for 15 or 20 seconds, and the engine eventually turned
>> > over. Let me know if this helps get to the solution. Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like a flooded motor.
>>
>> Perhaps you have a leaky injector -if your fuel pressure at the rail
>> does not hold as specified.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,
> and I should look at the possibility of the engine flooding? If so,
> does the engine clear by holding the accelerator pedal to the floor
> while starting the car? Thanks.

IIRC,holding the accel pedal to the floor while cranking is the right
method for starting a flooded engine.
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
>> news:1148078403.117866.291900@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > Regarding the relay -- the "check" was testing with a meter using
>> > the instructions in the Chilton manual. I always listen carefully
>> > to hear the fuel pump motor at the ON position, before trying to
>> > start the car, and I always hear it, even the times when the car
>> > does not start. Wouldn't that indicate the relay is working? Also,
>> > the last time the problem occurred, I kept the key in the start
>> > position for 15 or 20 seconds, and the engine eventually turned
>> > over. Let me know if this helps get to the solution. Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like a flooded motor.
>>
>> Perhaps you have a leaky injector -if your fuel pressure at the rail
>> does not hold as specified.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,
> and I should look at the possibility of the engine flooding? If so,
> does the engine clear by holding the accelerator pedal to the floor
> while starting the car? Thanks.

IIRC,holding the accel pedal to the floor while cranking is the right
method for starting a flooded engine.
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
>> news:1148078403.117866.291900@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > Regarding the relay -- the "check" was testing with a meter using
>> > the instructions in the Chilton manual. I always listen carefully
>> > to hear the fuel pump motor at the ON position, before trying to
>> > start the car, and I always hear it, even the times when the car
>> > does not start. Wouldn't that indicate the relay is working? Also,
>> > the last time the problem occurred, I kept the key in the start
>> > position for 15 or 20 seconds, and the engine eventually turned
>> > over. Let me know if this helps get to the solution. Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like a flooded motor.
>>
>> Perhaps you have a leaky injector -if your fuel pressure at the rail
>> does not hold as specified.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,



Not necessarily. Do you hear ALL THREE Clicks from the relay? That's the
definitive test.




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"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,



Not necessarily. Do you hear ALL THREE Clicks from the relay? That's the
definitive test.




--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,



Not necessarily. Do you hear ALL THREE Clicks from the relay? That's the
definitive test.




--
TeGGeR®

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www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

Yes, I hear all three clicks, but I'll keep listening carefully to be
sure. I did that listening test a while back and haven't been paying
attention lately. Can you give me the directions again, as to when you
hear the clicks, or give me a link? Thanks.

TeGGeR® wrote:
> "Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
> news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> > run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> > start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,
>
>
>
> Not necessarily. Do you hear ALL THREE Clicks from the relay? That's the
> definitive test.
>
>
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

Yes, I hear all three clicks, but I'll keep listening carefully to be
sure. I did that listening test a while back and haven't been paying
attention lately. Can you give me the directions again, as to when you
hear the clicks, or give me a link? Thanks.

TeGGeR® wrote:
> "Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
> news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> > run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> > start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,
>
>
>
> Not necessarily. Do you hear ALL THREE Clicks from the relay? That's the
> definitive test.
>
>
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

Yes, I hear all three clicks, but I'll keep listening carefully to be
sure. I did that listening test a while back and haven't been paying
attention lately. Can you give me the directions again, as to when you
hear the clicks, or give me a link? Thanks.

TeGGeR® wrote:
> "Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
> news:1148156886.103243.219300@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > Jim, I think it's not the relay, because I always hear the fuel pump
> > run when I turn the key to ON, even the times when the car did not
> > start. Am I correct that the relay is not at fault because of that,
>
>
>
> Not necessarily. Do you hear ALL THREE Clicks from the relay? That's the
> definitive test.
>
>
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148739649.540835.316530@j33g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Yes, I hear all three clicks, but I'll keep listening carefully to be
> sure. I did that listening test a while back and haven't been paying
> attention lately. Can you give me the directions again, as to when you
> hear the clicks, or give me a link? Thanks.


http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/start...html#mainrelay


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"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148739649.540835.316530@j33g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Yes, I hear all three clicks, but I'll keep listening carefully to be
> sure. I did that listening test a while back and haven't been paying
> attention lately. Can you give me the directions again, as to when you
> hear the clicks, or give me a link? Thanks.


http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/start...html#mainrelay


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www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

"Neil" <nhmiller@aol.com> wrote in
news:1148739649.540835.316530@j33g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Yes, I hear all three clicks, but I'll keep listening carefully to be
> sure. I did that listening test a while back and haven't been paying
> attention lately. Can you give me the directions again, as to when you
> hear the clicks, or give me a link? Thanks.


http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/start...html#mainrelay


--
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www.tegger.com/hondafaq/