bandabee

Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start the
car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start. What
do you think?

John Ings

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:09:08 GMT, "bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
>Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start the
>car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start. What
>do you think?

If it's wired up properly, you'll get no instrument lights when it's
tripped. The engine won't turn... nothing works.

If your engine in turning but won't start, check to see if the fuel
pump is running. If not, check your main relay.

John Ings

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:09:08 GMT, "bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
>Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start the
>car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start. What
>do you think?

If it's wired up properly, you'll get no instrument lights when it's
tripped. The engine won't turn... nothing works.

If your engine in turning but won't start, check to see if the fuel
pump is running. If not, check your main relay.

John Ings

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:09:08 GMT, "bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
>Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start the
>car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start. What
>do you think?

If it's wired up properly, you'll get no instrument lights when it's
tripped. The engine won't turn... nothing works.

If your engine in turning but won't start, check to see if the fuel
pump is running. If not, check your main relay.

bandabee

No, the engine doesn't turn. It's like you said, no lights, no sound.

My concern is that, even AFTER i turned off the alarm, it acts as if the
alarm is still on! And then, everything gets reset, cos I have to put in a
code to get my radio working again.

"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:09:08 GMT, "bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
> >Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start
the
> >car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start.
What
> >do you think?
>
> If it's wired up properly, you'll get no instrument lights when it's
> tripped. The engine won't turn... nothing works.
>
> If your engine in turning but won't start, check to see if the fuel
> pump is running. If not, check your main relay.

bandabee

No, the engine doesn't turn. It's like you said, no lights, no sound.

My concern is that, even AFTER i turned off the alarm, it acts as if the
alarm is still on! And then, everything gets reset, cos I have to put in a
code to get my radio working again.

"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:ig54nvk8ahfgukifdi5ep7un8iml2rcel2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:09:08 GMT, "bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
> >Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start
the
> >car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start.
What
> >do you think?
>
> If it's wired up properly, you'll get no instrument lights when it's
> tripped. The engine won't turn... nothing works.
>
> If your engine in turning but won't start, check to see if the fuel
> pump is running. If not, check your main relay.

bandabee

No, the engine doesn't turn. It's like you said, no lights, no sound.

My concern is that, even AFTER i turned off the alarm, it acts as if the
alarm is still on! And then, everything gets reset, cos I have to put in a
code to get my radio working again.

"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
news:ig54nvk8ahfgukifdi5ep7un8iml2rcel2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:09:08 GMT, "bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
> >Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start
the
> >car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start.
What
> >do you think?
>
> If it's wired up properly, you'll get no instrument lights when it's
> tripped. The engine won't turn... nothing works.
>
> If your engine in turning but won't start, check to see if the fuel
> pump is running. If not, check your main relay.

Don in Phoenix, AZ

"bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aeEcb.9281$O85.3855@pd7tw1no...
> No, the engine doesn't turn. It's like you said, no lights, no sound.
>
> My concern is that, even AFTER i turned off the alarm, it acts as if the
> alarm is still on! And then, everything gets reset, cos I have to put in
a
> code to get my radio working again.

If you have to enter the code for your radio, either the issue is not caused
by the Clifford, or your Clifford was wired VERY incorrectly. The Clifford
alarms have a starter interrupt and (in some models) a fuel system
interrupt. Neither of these will kill all of the power to the car. If when
this happens, you turn the key to "ON" (not start) and have no power, it is
not a problem with the Clifford. If the lights and etc. only go out in the
"START" position, that is a normal function of the start process (avoid
extra power drain while starting). However, the power to the radio memory
(to remember presets and code) is ALWAYS on - it is not interrupted by the
start switch or (if properly installed) the alarm.

I would wonder if you have some type of short in the start circuit - either
a ground or the starter is drawing too much current. It could be that the
starter (or ground) is drawing so much power that it is draining the battery
to the point that all power is lost. Or it could be that the battery is bad
and can no longer supply enough power when needed - a shorted plate in the
battery or a bad cell can cause this.

HTH,
Don

Don in Phoenix, AZ

"bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aeEcb.9281$O85.3855@pd7tw1no...
> No, the engine doesn't turn. It's like you said, no lights, no sound.
>
> My concern is that, even AFTER i turned off the alarm, it acts as if the
> alarm is still on! And then, everything gets reset, cos I have to put in
a
> code to get my radio working again.

If you have to enter the code for your radio, either the issue is not caused
by the Clifford, or your Clifford was wired VERY incorrectly. The Clifford
alarms have a starter interrupt and (in some models) a fuel system
interrupt. Neither of these will kill all of the power to the car. If when
this happens, you turn the key to "ON" (not start) and have no power, it is
not a problem with the Clifford. If the lights and etc. only go out in the
"START" position, that is a normal function of the start process (avoid
extra power drain while starting). However, the power to the radio memory
(to remember presets and code) is ALWAYS on - it is not interrupted by the
start switch or (if properly installed) the alarm.

I would wonder if you have some type of short in the start circuit - either
a ground or the starter is drawing too much current. It could be that the
starter (or ground) is drawing so much power that it is draining the battery
to the point that all power is lost. Or it could be that the battery is bad
and can no longer supply enough power when needed - a shorted plate in the
battery or a bad cell can cause this.

HTH,
Don

Don in Phoenix, AZ

"bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aeEcb.9281$O85.3855@pd7tw1no...
> No, the engine doesn't turn. It's like you said, no lights, no sound.
>
> My concern is that, even AFTER i turned off the alarm, it acts as if the
> alarm is still on! And then, everything gets reset, cos I have to put in
a
> code to get my radio working again.

If you have to enter the code for your radio, either the issue is not caused
by the Clifford, or your Clifford was wired VERY incorrectly. The Clifford
alarms have a starter interrupt and (in some models) a fuel system
interrupt. Neither of these will kill all of the power to the car. If when
this happens, you turn the key to "ON" (not start) and have no power, it is
not a problem with the Clifford. If the lights and etc. only go out in the
"START" position, that is a normal function of the start process (avoid
extra power drain while starting). However, the power to the radio memory
(to remember presets and code) is ALWAYS on - it is not interrupted by the
start switch or (if properly installed) the alarm.

I would wonder if you have some type of short in the start circuit - either
a ground or the starter is drawing too much current. It could be that the
starter (or ground) is drawing so much power that it is draining the battery
to the point that all power is lost. Or it could be that the battery is bad
and can no longer supply enough power when needed - a shorted plate in the
battery or a bad cell can cause this.

HTH,
Don

Erven

Change the starter cutout relay on the clifford.

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"bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
> Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start
the
> car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start. What
> do you think?
>
>

Erven

Change the starter cutout relay on the clifford.

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Thanks Erven
98tt
"bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UJncb.3684$O85.160@pd7tw1no...
> Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
> Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start
the
> car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start. What
> do you think?
>
>

Erven

Change the starter cutout relay on the clifford.

--
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Thanks Erven
98tt
"bandabee" <banXdabee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UJncb.3684$O85.160@pd7tw1no...
> Anyone ever had start up problems because of a clifford alarm system.
> Mine's interloped with the starter so if the alarm is on, u can't start
the
> car. I'm guessing that might be why my car sometimes doesn't start. What
> do you think?
>
>