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clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
Hello,
While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be replaced. How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's action? Thank you. |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
gigelus2k3 wrote:
> Hello, > > While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch > cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be > replaced. > > How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, > what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's > action? > > Thank you. --------------------------------- It _can_ be caused by somebody doing a careless job of bleeding the brakes. Some will tell you it can't happen. They sometimes fail for no reason, but yours is LOW mileage. 'Curly' |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
gigelus2k3 wrote:
> Hello, > > While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch > cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be > replaced. > > How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, > what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's > action? > > Thank you. --------------------------------- It _can_ be caused by somebody doing a careless job of bleeding the brakes. Some will tell you it can't happen. They sometimes fail for no reason, but yours is LOW mileage. 'Curly' |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:13eehldblr1k297@corp.supernews.com: > gigelus2k3 wrote: >> Hello, >> >> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch >> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be >> replaced. >> >> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, >> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's >> action? >> >> Thank you. > > --------------------------------- > > It _can_ be caused by somebody doing a careless job of bleeding the > brakes. Some will tell you it can't happen. They sometimes fail for no > reason, but yours is LOW mileage. > > 'Curly' > what does brake bleeding have to do with a CLUTCH master cylinder? hydraulic fluid can absorb moisture and that can cause corrosion in the aluminum bore of the master cylinder,which wears out the piston seal. (neoprene plastic?) I suspect changing the fluid every 5 years might make a difference. I suppose that the number of times the clutch pedal is operated matters for seal wear,too. stop n go driving makes you use the clutch a lot more than cruising mode. My 94 Integra GS-R needed a clutch master cylinder fairly early in mileage,but only after ~8 of years of driving.It also needed a brake master cylinder a couple of years later.(my car only had 59K miles when it was stolen,stripped and torched in Jun29-07) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:13eehldblr1k297@corp.supernews.com: > gigelus2k3 wrote: >> Hello, >> >> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch >> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be >> replaced. >> >> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, >> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's >> action? >> >> Thank you. > > --------------------------------- > > It _can_ be caused by somebody doing a careless job of bleeding the > brakes. Some will tell you it can't happen. They sometimes fail for no > reason, but yours is LOW mileage. > > 'Curly' > what does brake bleeding have to do with a CLUTCH master cylinder? hydraulic fluid can absorb moisture and that can cause corrosion in the aluminum bore of the master cylinder,which wears out the piston seal. (neoprene plastic?) I suspect changing the fluid every 5 years might make a difference. I suppose that the number of times the clutch pedal is operated matters for seal wear,too. stop n go driving makes you use the clutch a lot more than cruising mode. My 94 Integra GS-R needed a clutch master cylinder fairly early in mileage,but only after ~8 of years of driving.It also needed a brake master cylinder a couple of years later.(my car only had 59K miles when it was stolen,stripped and torched in Jun29-07) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
gigelus2k3 <popescu.serban@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1189540072.238070.109060@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com: > Hello, > > While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch > cylinder (is that the right terminology?) Yes, but I would rearrange that to say that the "clutch master cylinder" is leaking. Grammatically, the subject is the "clutch", while the object is the "master cylinder". > is leaking and needs to be > replaced. > > How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, > what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's > action? Both, actually. If you've never changed the fluid, the seals will wear out in jig time. If you spend lots of time in city traffic, the pedal gets a lot of pumps, and each pump is one more scrape of seals against cylinder wall, and thus that much more wear. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
gigelus2k3 <popescu.serban@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1189540072.238070.109060@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com: > Hello, > > While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch > cylinder (is that the right terminology?) Yes, but I would rearrange that to say that the "clutch master cylinder" is leaking. Grammatically, the subject is the "clutch", while the object is the "master cylinder". > is leaking and needs to be > replaced. > > How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, > what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's > action? Both, actually. If you've never changed the fluid, the seals will wear out in jig time. If you spend lots of time in city traffic, the pedal gets a lot of pumps, and each pump is one more scrape of seals against cylinder wall, and thus that much more wear. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
Jim Yanik wrote:
> motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in > news:13eehldblr1k297@corp.supernews.com: > >> gigelus2k3 wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch >>> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be >>> replaced. >>> >>> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, >>> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's >>> action? >>> >>> Thank you. >> --------------------------------- >> >> It _can_ be caused by somebody doing a careless job of bleeding the >> brakes. Some will tell you it can't happen. They sometimes fail for no >> reason, but yours is LOW mileage. >> >> 'Curly' >> > > what does brake bleeding have to do with a CLUTCH master cylinder? > ------------------------------- Good point. I was picturing the master BRAKE cylinder. 'Curly' |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
Jim Yanik wrote:
> motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in > news:13eehldblr1k297@corp.supernews.com: > >> gigelus2k3 wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch >>> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) is leaking and needs to be >>> replaced. >>> >>> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, >>> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's >>> action? >>> >>> Thank you. >> --------------------------------- >> >> It _can_ be caused by somebody doing a careless job of bleeding the >> brakes. Some will tell you it can't happen. They sometimes fail for no >> reason, but yours is LOW mileage. >> >> 'Curly' >> > > what does brake bleeding have to do with a CLUTCH master cylinder? > ------------------------------- Good point. I was picturing the master BRAKE cylinder. 'Curly' |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns99A8E320E6AC8tegger@207.14.116.130: > gigelus2k3 <popescu.serban@gmail.com> wrote in > news:1189540072.238070.109060@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com: > >> Hello, >> >> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch >> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) > > > Yes, but I would rearrange that to say that the "clutch master > cylinder" is leaking. > > Grammatically, the subject is the "clutch", while the object is the > "master cylinder". > > >> is leaking and needs to be >> replaced. >> >> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, >> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's >> action? > > > Both, actually. > > If you've never changed the fluid, the seals will wear out in jig > time. > > If you spend lots of time in city traffic, the pedal gets a lot of > pumps, and each pump is one more scrape of seals against cylinder > wall, and thus that much more wear. > is there a recommended mileage or # of months for clutch fluid replacement? I suspect there is for the brakes.(don't have a owner's manual anymore to refer to) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns99A8E320E6AC8tegger@207.14.116.130: > gigelus2k3 <popescu.serban@gmail.com> wrote in > news:1189540072.238070.109060@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com: > >> Hello, >> >> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch >> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) > > > Yes, but I would rearrange that to say that the "clutch master > cylinder" is leaking. > > Grammatically, the subject is the "clutch", while the object is the > "master cylinder". > > >> is leaking and needs to be >> replaced. >> >> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, >> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's >> action? > > > Both, actually. > > If you've never changed the fluid, the seals will wear out in jig > time. > > If you spend lots of time in city traffic, the pedal gets a lot of > pumps, and each pump is one more scrape of seals against cylinder > wall, and thus that much more wear. > is there a recommended mileage or # of months for clutch fluid replacement? I suspect there is for the brakes.(don't have a owner's manual anymore to refer to) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
On Sep 12, 6:07 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote innews:Xns99A8E320E6AC8tegger@207.14.116.130: > > > > > gigelus2k3 <popescu.ser...@gmail.com> wrote in > >news:1189540072.238070.109060@i13g2000prf.googleg roups.com: > > >> Hello, > > >> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch > >> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) > > > Yes, but I would rearrange that to say that the "clutch master > > cylinder" is leaking. > > > Grammatically, the subject is the "clutch", while the object is the > > "master cylinder". > > >> is leaking and needs to be > >> replaced. > > >> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, > >> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's > >> action? > > > Both, actually. > > > If you've never changed the fluid, the seals will wear out in jig > > time. > > > If you spend lots of time in city traffic, the pedal gets a lot of > > pumps, and each pump is one more scrape of seals against cylinder > > wall, and thus that much more wear. > > is there a recommended mileage or # of months for clutch fluid replacement? > > I suspect there is for the brakes.(don't have a owner's manual anymore to > refer to) > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > kua.net I'll check later, but don't remember seeing it in the maintenance list. |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
On Sep 12, 6:07 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote innews:Xns99A8E320E6AC8tegger@207.14.116.130: > > > > > gigelus2k3 <popescu.ser...@gmail.com> wrote in > >news:1189540072.238070.109060@i13g2000prf.googleg roups.com: > > >> Hello, > > >> While doing a minor service, my mechanic found that the master clutch > >> cylinder (is that the right terminology?) > > > Yes, but I would rearrange that to say that the "clutch master > > cylinder" is leaking. > > > Grammatically, the subject is the "clutch", while the object is the > > "master cylinder". > > >> is leaking and needs to be > >> replaced. > > >> How common is this failure? The car has only 86k miles on it. Also, > >> what would cause the leak to occur, simple wear & tear or driver's > >> action? > > > Both, actually. > > > If you've never changed the fluid, the seals will wear out in jig > > time. > > > If you spend lots of time in city traffic, the pedal gets a lot of > > pumps, and each pump is one more scrape of seals against cylinder > > wall, and thus that much more wear. > > is there a recommended mileage or # of months for clutch fluid replacement? > > I suspect there is for the brakes.(don't have a owner's manual anymore to > refer to) > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > kua.net I'll check later, but don't remember seeing it in the maintenance list. |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns99A95CDE0ABB6jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86: >> > > is there a recommended mileage or # of months for clutch fluid > replacement? > > I suspect there is for the brakes.(don't have a owner's manual anymore > to refer to) > Every three years regardless of mileage for both brake and clutch. They are constructed the same way and use the same fluid. This interval assumes the use of genuine Honda brake fluid. If you're using aftermarket fluid (like I do), you need to change it very year. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: clutch pressure cylinder of a manual tranny 2000 Civic
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns99A95CDE0ABB6jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86: >> > > is there a recommended mileage or # of months for clutch fluid > replacement? > > I suspect there is for the brakes.(don't have a owner's manual anymore > to refer to) > Every three years regardless of mileage for both brake and clutch. They are constructed the same way and use the same fluid. This interval assumes the use of genuine Honda brake fluid. If you're using aftermarket fluid (like I do), you need to change it very year. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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