Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
reputable shop to do the repair work.

Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?

I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs replacing.
I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will take a
day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.

Is this reasonable?

Suggestions appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
- Pat

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

Pat Dreiding wrote:
>
> My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> reputable shop to do the repair work.
>
> Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
>
> I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs replacing.
> I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will take a
> day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>
> Is this reasonable?
>
> Suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> - Pat


==========================================

Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried? (like
the 5 W's)

Maybe you don't need a shop at all?

'Curly'

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

Pat Dreiding wrote:
>
> My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> reputable shop to do the repair work.
>
> Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
>
> I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs replacing.
> I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will take a
> day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>
> Is this reasonable?
>
> Suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> - Pat


==========================================

Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried? (like
the 5 W's)

Maybe you don't need a shop at all?

'Curly'

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

The car has 123K miles. When doing a semi-hard acceleration, the engines
RPMs increase, but the car doesn't goes faster. After a few secounds it
slowly start accelerating. You can "feel" the clutch slip.

Are you familiar with any shops in Richmond?

Thanks,
- Pat



"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
> Pat Dreiding wrote:
> >
> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> > reputable shop to do the repair work.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
> >
> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
replacing.
> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will
take a
> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
> >
> > Is this reasonable?
> >
> > Suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > - Pat
>
>
> ==========================================
>
> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried? (like
> the 5 W's)
>
> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>
> 'Curly'

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

The car has 123K miles. When doing a semi-hard acceleration, the engines
RPMs increase, but the car doesn't goes faster. After a few secounds it
slowly start accelerating. You can "feel" the clutch slip.

Are you familiar with any shops in Richmond?

Thanks,
- Pat



"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
> Pat Dreiding wrote:
> >
> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> > reputable shop to do the repair work.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
> >
> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
replacing.
> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will
take a
> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
> >
> > Is this reasonable?
> >
> > Suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > - Pat
>
>
> ==========================================
>
> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried? (like
> the 5 W's)
>
> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>
> 'Curly'

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in news:o7Y%f.384
$V73.172@trnddc06:

> The car has 123K miles. When doing a semi-hard acceleration, the
engines
> RPMs increase, but the car doesn't goes faster. After a few
secounds it
> slowly start accelerating. You can "feel" the clutch slip.
>
> Are you familiar with any shops in Richmond?
>
> Thanks,
> - Pat
>
>
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
>> Pat Dreiding wrote:
>> >
>> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking
for a
>> > reputable shop to do the repair work.
>> >
>> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
VA?
>> >
>> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
> replacing.
>> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it
will
> take a
>> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>> >
>> > Is this reasonable?
>> >
>> > Suggestions appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > - Pat
>>
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried?
(like
>> the 5 W's)
>>
>> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
>

Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged? In
my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing.
When they heat up they'll slip even more. I once took my Civic on a 3
hour drive to Virginia Beach beatin the out of it the whole way,
and when I finally got there my car just stopped going even though I
was stepping on the gas because the clutch was slipping 100%. Had to
roll it off the interstate and then wait about 10 minutes for the
clutch disc to cool off before I could move again. I could smell it
burning (clutch material smells kinda like burning hair, but worse).
Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do
some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems.

If you go for a hard launch (or any kind of launch) and you feel the
clutch slipping let off of it right away (don't rev it harder).
Chances are it will get progressively worse. Take it easy on your
clutch for a while.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in news:o7Y%f.384
$V73.172@trnddc06:

> The car has 123K miles. When doing a semi-hard acceleration, the
engines
> RPMs increase, but the car doesn't goes faster. After a few
secounds it
> slowly start accelerating. You can "feel" the clutch slip.
>
> Are you familiar with any shops in Richmond?
>
> Thanks,
> - Pat
>
>
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
>> Pat Dreiding wrote:
>> >
>> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking
for a
>> > reputable shop to do the repair work.
>> >
>> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
VA?
>> >
>> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
> replacing.
>> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it
will
> take a
>> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>> >
>> > Is this reasonable?
>> >
>> > Suggestions appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > - Pat
>>
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried?
(like
>> the 5 W's)
>>
>> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
>

Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged? In
my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing.
When they heat up they'll slip even more. I once took my Civic on a 3
hour drive to Virginia Beach beatin the out of it the whole way,
and when I finally got there my car just stopped going even though I
was stepping on the gas because the clutch was slipping 100%. Had to
roll it off the interstate and then wait about 10 minutes for the
clutch disc to cool off before I could move again. I could smell it
burning (clutch material smells kinda like burning hair, but worse).
Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do
some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems.

If you go for a hard launch (or any kind of launch) and you feel the
clutch slipping let off of it right away (don't rev it harder).
Chances are it will get progressively worse. Take it easy on your
clutch for a while.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A62EC3A95Acrystalnospamthankyo@216.196.9 7.131...
>
> Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged? In
> my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing.
> When they heat up they'll slip even more. I once took my Civic on a 3
> hour drive to Virginia Beach beatin the out of it the whole way,
> and when I finally got there my car just stopped going even though I
> was stepping on the gas because the clutch was slipping 100%. Had to
> roll it off the interstate and then wait about 10 minutes for the
> clutch disc to cool off before I could move again. I could smell it
> burning (clutch material smells kinda like burning hair, but worse).
> Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do
> some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems.

In years gone by 'woman owned and driven' meant that you were looking at a
car that wasn't abused. That phrase hasn't meant that for quite awhile.
{;^)

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A62EC3A95Acrystalnospamthankyo@216.196.9 7.131...
>
> Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged? In
> my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing.
> When they heat up they'll slip even more. I once took my Civic on a 3
> hour drive to Virginia Beach beatin the out of it the whole way,
> and when I finally got there my car just stopped going even though I
> was stepping on the gas because the clutch was slipping 100%. Had to
> roll it off the interstate and then wait about 10 minutes for the
> clutch disc to cool off before I could move again. I could smell it
> burning (clutch material smells kinda like burning hair, but worse).
> Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do
> some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems.

In years gone by 'woman owned and driven' meant that you were looking at a
car that wasn't abused. That phrase hasn't meant that for quite awhile.
{;^)

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:xl20g.29268$4S.11675@edtnps82:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A62EC3A95Acrystalnospamthankyo@216.196.9 7.131...
>>
>> Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged?
In
>> my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing.
>> When they heat up they'll slip even more. I once took my Civic on
a 3
>> hour drive to Virginia Beach beatin the out of it the whole
way,
>> and when I finally got there my car just stopped going even though
I
>> was stepping on the gas because the clutch was slipping 100%. Had
to
>> roll it off the interstate and then wait about 10 minutes for the
>> clutch disc to cool off before I could move again. I could smell
it
>> burning (clutch material smells kinda like burning hair, but
worse).
>> Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do
>> some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems.
>
> In years gone by 'woman owned and driven' meant that you were
looking
> at a car that wasn't abused. That phrase hasn't meant that for
quite
> awhile. {;^)
>
>
>

Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to
mellow me out.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:xl20g.29268$4S.11675@edtnps82:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A62EC3A95Acrystalnospamthankyo@216.196.9 7.131...
>>
>> Are you revving it too hard before the clutch has fully engaged?
In
>> my experience OEM Honda clutches slip badly and aren't for racing.
>> When they heat up they'll slip even more. I once took my Civic on
a 3
>> hour drive to Virginia Beach beatin the out of it the whole
way,
>> and when I finally got there my car just stopped going even though
I
>> was stepping on the gas because the clutch was slipping 100%. Had
to
>> roll it off the interstate and then wait about 10 minutes for the
>> clutch disc to cool off before I could move again. I could smell
it
>> burning (clutch material smells kinda like burning hair, but
worse).
>> Got it switched to a performance clutch and flywheel and I can do
>> some serious clutch popping and hard launches with no problems.
>
> In years gone by 'woman owned and driven' meant that you were
looking
> at a car that wasn't abused. That phrase hasn't meant that for
quite
> awhile. {;^)
>
>
>

Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to
mellow me out.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ehX%f.89$JY5.9@trnddc01...
> My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> reputable shop to do the repair work.
>
> Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
>
> I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
> replacing.
> I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will take
> a
> day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>
> Is this reasonable?
>
> Suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> - Pat
>
>
That price sounds pretty high. I recommend you shop around some more - it
will probably save you a few hundred dollars. There aren't many corners to
cut that would lower the price, but some independent shops charge what they
figure they can do it for rather than the "book" rate.

A clutch job involves removing the transmission and replacing the clutch
disk, the pressure plate that clamps the disk to the flywheel when the
clutch pedal isn't depressed, the throwout bearing that lets the pressure
plate turn while the fork (operated by the pedal) doesn't turn, and the
pilot bearing in the flywheel that supports the end of the gearbox input
shaft. The flywheel surface is lathed to make it flat again.

We did the clutch in my son's Integra a couple months ago. The aftermarket
parts were about $250 and the job was an all day affair for us amateurs,
with the usual struggle to get the gearbox in place afterward. (I strained a
muscle in my jaw from clenching my face - it hurt for three days!)

Mike

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ehX%f.89$JY5.9@trnddc01...
> My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> reputable shop to do the repair work.
>
> Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
>
> I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
> replacing.
> I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will take
> a
> day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>
> Is this reasonable?
>
> Suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> - Pat
>
>
That price sounds pretty high. I recommend you shop around some more - it
will probably save you a few hundred dollars. There aren't many corners to
cut that would lower the price, but some independent shops charge what they
figure they can do it for rather than the "book" rate.

A clutch job involves removing the transmission and replacing the clutch
disk, the pressure plate that clamps the disk to the flywheel when the
clutch pedal isn't depressed, the throwout bearing that lets the pressure
plate turn while the fork (operated by the pedal) doesn't turn, and the
pilot bearing in the flywheel that supports the end of the gearbox input
shaft. The flywheel surface is lathed to make it flat again.

We did the clutch in my son's Integra a couple months ago. The aftermarket
parts were about $250 and the job was an all day affair for us amateurs,
with the usual struggle to get the gearbox in place afterward. (I strained a
muscle in my jaw from clenching my face - it hurt for three days!)

Mike

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K miles.

The questions I need answered are:

1. Does anyone has a suggestion for reputable repair shop in Richmond, VA?

2. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?

3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing replacement?

Thanks again,
- Pat



"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
> Pat Dreiding wrote:
> >
> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> > reputable shop to do the repair work.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
> >
> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
replacing.
> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will
take a
> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
> >
> > Is this reasonable?
> >
> > Suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > - Pat
>
>
> ==========================================
>
> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried? (like
> the 5 W's)
>
> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>
> 'Curly'

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K miles.

The questions I need answered are:

1. Does anyone has a suggestion for reputable repair shop in Richmond, VA?

2. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?

3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing replacement?

Thanks again,
- Pat



"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
> Pat Dreiding wrote:
> >
> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for a
> > reputable shop to do the repair work.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond, VA?
> >
> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
replacing.
> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it will
take a
> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
> >
> > Is this reasonable?
> >
> > Suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > - Pat
>
>
> ==========================================
>
> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried? (like
> the 5 W's)
>
> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>
> 'Curly'

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Kaa0g.8717$MU4.2285@trnddc03:

> I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K
> miles.
>
> The questions I need answered are:
>
> 1. Does anyone has a suggestion for reputable repair shop in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing
> replacement?
>
> Thanks again,
> - Pat
>
>
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
>> Pat Dreiding wrote:
>> >
>> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for
>> > a reputable shop to do the repair work.
>> >
>> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
>> > VA?
>> >
>> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
> replacing.
>> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it
>> > will
> take a
>> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>> >
>> > Is this reasonable?
>> >
>> > Suggestions appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > - Pat
>>
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried?
>> (like the 5 W's)
>>
>> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
>

$1000 is a bit much. I got a brand new lightweight flywheel, performance
clutch disc, plate, plus bearings for about 400, and then installed a
little less than 400. If he's getting you an OEM clutch plate and
bearing, that's a lot of excess he's charging for labor. Albeit he's
probably going on his pre-calculated "hours" to do the job, charging you
$60 or more per hour. You'd have better luck driving to Barboursville
and visiting High Speed Auto. Ask for Rick. It's a little less than 2
hours from Richmond. If you want directions let me know.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Kaa0g.8717$MU4.2285@trnddc03:

> I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K
> miles.
>
> The questions I need answered are:
>
> 1. Does anyone has a suggestion for reputable repair shop in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing
> replacement?
>
> Thanks again,
> - Pat
>
>
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:44404390.EA6AE22E@interbaun.com...
>> Pat Dreiding wrote:
>> >
>> > My '97 Civic Ex is experiencing clutch slippage so I'm looking for
>> > a reputable shop to do the repair work.
>> >
>> > Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
>> > VA?
>> >
>> > I've been told that some "bearings" and the "clutch plate" needs
> replacing.
>> > I've taken it to a couple of places and they've told me that it
>> > will
> take a
>> > day or two (8-10 hrs) for about a $1,000.
>> >
>> > Is this reasonable?
>> >
>> > Suggestions appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > - Pat
>>
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>> Why not tell us the history, the mileage, and what's been tried?
>> (like the 5 W's)
>>
>> Maybe you don't need a shop at all?
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
>

$1000 is a bit much. I got a brand new lightweight flywheel, performance
clutch disc, plate, plus bearings for about 400, and then installed a
little less than 400. If he's getting you an OEM clutch plate and
bearing, that's a lot of excess he's charging for labor. Albeit he's
probably going on his pre-calculated "hours" to do the job, charging you
$60 or more per hour. You'd have better luck driving to Barboursville
and visiting High Speed Auto. Ask for Rick. It's a little less than 2
hours from Richmond. If you want directions let me know.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Kaa0g.8717$MU4.2285@trnddc03:

> I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K
> miles.
>
> The questions I need answered are:
>
> 1. Does anyone has a suggestion for reputable repair shop in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing
> replacement?




The only thing I can comment on is the cost. One thousand bucks is way, WAY
too much.

Do you have a breakdown of the quote? If so, could you post it here, line
by line?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Pat Dreiding" <patrickdreiding@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Kaa0g.8717$MU4.2285@trnddc03:

> I appreciate everyone's inputs. The car is a 97' Civic EX with 123K
> miles.
>
> The questions I need answered are:
>
> 1. Does anyone has a suggestion for reputable repair shop in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience with "Wallace Automotive" in Richmond,
> VA?
>
> 3. Is $1,000 a reasonable charge for Clutch plate and Bearing
> replacement?




The only thing I can comment on is the cost. One thousand bucks is way, WAY
too much.

Do you have a breakdown of the quote? If so, could you post it here, line
by line?



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A666E552B4Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>
> Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to
> mellow me out.

To make the roads safer, perhaps you shouldn't be placed in a position of
having care and control of a vehicle then. {;^)

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A666E552B4Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>
> Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to
> mellow me out.

To make the roads safer, perhaps you shouldn't be placed in a position of
having care and control of a vehicle then. {;^)

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"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:OBq0g.55250$K11.8488@clgrps12:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A666E552B4Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to
>> mellow me out.
>
> To make the roads safer, perhaps you shouldn't be placed in a position
> of having care and control of a vehicle then. {;^)
>
>
>

400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came
close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations though.
Not too happy about those.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:OBq0g.55250$K11.8488@clgrps12:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A666E552B4Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> Driving slow makes me nervous unless I have a good stereo system to
>> mellow me out.
>
> To make the roads safer, perhaps you shouldn't be placed in a position
> of having care and control of a vehicle then. {;^)
>
>
>

400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came
close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations though.
Not too happy about those.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A7B84E03AECcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>
> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came
> close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations
> though.
> Not too happy about those.

I rest my case. You don't belong on the road.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A7B84E03AECcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>
> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came
> close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations
> though.
> Not too happy about those.

I rest my case. You don't belong on the road.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:lqA0g.8134$Vg.738@edtnps90:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A7B84E03AECcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even
>> came close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment
>> violations though.
>> Not too happy about those.
>
> I rest my case. You don't belong on the road.
>
>

I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? :) I
rest my case.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:lqA0g.8134$Vg.738@edtnps90:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A7B84E03AECcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even
>> came close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment
>> violations though.
>> Not too happy about those.
>
> I rest my case. You don't belong on the road.
>
>

I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? :) I
rest my case.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

On 4/16/2006 6:28 PM Brian Smith spake these words of knowledge:

> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A7B84E03AECcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came
>> close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations
>> though.
>> Not too happy about those.
>
> I rest my case. You don't belong on the road.

I'd just like to say, " you, son; get the stick out of your ass."
Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and I
get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

On 4/16/2006 6:28 PM Brian Smith spake these words of knowledge:

> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A7B84E03AECcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> 400k+ driving experience, 90% of it over the speed limit, never even came
>> close to an accident. 2 reckless tickets and 2 equipment violations
>> though.
>> Not too happy about those.
>
> I rest my case. You don't belong on the road.

I'd just like to say, " you, son; get the stick out of your ass."
Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and I
get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh.

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A7C868FBA8Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>
> I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? :) I
> rest my case.

Ah, there is where you are wrong. Here one can take note of the time,
location antics of a driver, licence plate and lay a complaint with the
police. They will then locate the driver and lay charges, for what was
observed and reported. So pay attention to the job at hand when you're
operating a vehicle, the same ability might be available to your neighbours.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
news:Xns97A7C868FBA8Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>
> I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye? :) I
> rest my case.

Ah, there is where you are wrong. Here one can take note of the time,
location antics of a driver, licence plate and lay a complaint with the
police. They will then locate the driver and lay charges, for what was
observed and reported. So pay attention to the job at hand when you're
operating a vehicle, the same ability might be available to your neighbours.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:O9C0g.170619$g47.110251@tornado.tampabay.rr.c om...
>
> I'd just like to say, " you, son; get the stick out of your ass."
> Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and I
> get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh.

As a professional driver with many miles under my wheels without an incident
of any kind. I have to say that I have seen a lot of stupidity by small
vehicle drivers that have caused a lot of death and destruction, just
because they were operating without due care and control of their charges.
What you have to say, doesn't amount to a very high pile of crap at all.
{;^)

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:O9C0g.170619$g47.110251@tornado.tampabay.rr.c om...
>
> I'd just like to say, " you, son; get the stick out of your ass."
> Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and I
> get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh.

As a professional driver with many miles under my wheels without an incident
of any kind. I have to say that I have seen a lot of stupidity by small
vehicle drivers that have caused a lot of death and destruction, just
because they were operating without due care and control of their charges.
What you have to say, doesn't amount to a very high pile of crap at all.
{;^)

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:v8J0g.16801$Zl.16024@edtnps89:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A7C868FBA8Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye?
>> :) I rest my case.
>
> Ah, there is where you are wrong. Here one can take note of the time,
> location antics of a driver, licence plate and lay a complaint with
> the police. They will then locate the driver and lay charges, for what
> was observed and reported. So pay attention to the job at hand when
> you're operating a vehicle, the same ability might be available to
> your neighbours.
>
>

Like I said, too bad you can't do anything about it, aye?

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:v8J0g.16801$Zl.16024@edtnps89:

>
> "Crystal" <crystal@nospam.thankyou> wrote in message
> news:Xns97A7C868FBA8Bcrystalnospamthankyo@216.196. 97.131...
>>
>> I won't argue with you. Too bad you can't do anything about it, aye?
>> :) I rest my case.
>
> Ah, there is where you are wrong. Here one can take note of the time,
> location antics of a driver, licence plate and lay a complaint with
> the police. They will then locate the driver and lay charges, for what
> was observed and reported. So pay attention to the job at hand when
> you're operating a vehicle, the same ability might be available to
> your neighbours.
>
>

Like I said, too bad you can't do anything about it, aye?

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:cbJ0g.16834$Zl.4540@edtnps89:

>
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:O9C0g.170619$g47.110251@tornado.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>
>> I'd just like to say, " you, son; get the stick out of your ass."
>> Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and
>> I get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh.
>
> As a professional driver with many miles under my wheels without an
> incident of any kind. I have to say that I have seen a lot of
> stupidity by small vehicle drivers that have caused a lot of death and
> destruction, just because they were operating without due care and
> control of their charges. What you have to say, doesn't amount to a
> very high pile of crap at all. {;^)
>
>

Professional driver. That's funny man.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:cbJ0g.16834$Zl.4540@edtnps89:

>
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:O9C0g.170619$g47.110251@tornado.tampabay.rr.c om...
>>
>> I'd just like to say, " you, son; get the stick out of your ass."
>> Isn't usenet great? You get to be a self-righteous ignorant prig and
>> I get to be a vulgar bastard. Ahh.
>
> As a professional driver with many miles under my wheels without an
> incident of any kind. I have to say that I have seen a lot of
> stupidity by small vehicle drivers that have caused a lot of death and
> destruction, just because they were operating without due care and
> control of their charges. What you have to say, doesn't amount to a
> very high pile of crap at all. {;^)
>
>

Professional driver. That's funny man.

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

Okay... so we have a contributor who says he is a professional driver (a
credible claim - there is nothing rare about that) and another who admits to
speeding as a regular exercise, thinks 400K is a long driving record and
replies "Professional driver. That's funny man." Who is the more
credible?

I'm not a pro driver (although I have recently been putting 1000 hwy miles a
week on my company truck... northern Arizona is a pretty large service
area), but I certainly passed the million mile mark some time ago. Long
before that I decided speeding is a fool's game; increased risk of
unspeakable horror without tangible gain is not smart.

Every experienced driver has known at least one time he or she wished with
all of his or her heart to be going slower or that the brakes would stop
quicker. Why on earth would somebody deliberately throw away the opportunity
to make that come true?

Mike

Re: Clutch slipping - looking for reputable shop in Richmond, VA
 

Okay... so we have a contributor who says he is a professional driver (a
credible claim - there is nothing rare about that) and another who admits to
speeding as a regular exercise, thinks 400K is a long driving record and
replies "Professional driver. That's funny man." Who is the more
credible?

I'm not a pro driver (although I have recently been putting 1000 hwy miles a
week on my company truck... northern Arizona is a pretty large service
area), but I certainly passed the million mile mark some time ago. Long
before that I decided speeding is a fool's game; increased risk of
unspeakable horror without tangible gain is not smart.

Every experienced driver has known at least one time he or she wished with
all of his or her heart to be going slower or that the brakes would stop
quicker. Why on earth would somebody deliberately throw away the opportunity
to make that come true?

Mike

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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:vv-dnbI7J48KD97ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@sedona.net:

> Okay... so we have a contributor who says he is a professional driver
> (a credible claim - there is nothing rare about that) and another who
> admits to speeding as a regular exercise, thinks 400K is a long
> driving record and replies "Professional driver. That's funny
> man." Who is the more credible?
>
> I'm not a pro driver (although I have recently been putting 1000 hwy
> miles a week on my company truck... northern Arizona is a pretty large
> service area), but I certainly passed the million mile mark some time
> ago. Long before that I decided speeding is a fool's game; increased
> risk of unspeakable horror without tangible gain is not smart.
>
> Every experienced driver has known at least one time he or she wished
> with all of his or her heart to be going slower or that the brakes
> would stop quicker. Why on earth would somebody deliberately throw
> away the opportunity to make that come true?
>
> Mike
>
>
>

Sure, maybe you're right, but it's not his place to judge me. Even if he
is a professional driver, I have many friends who are "professional"
drivers, with sponsors and the whole 9 yards. They don't judge me. If he
thinks I'm going to just up and slow down because he's a "pro" he can
eat a dick. And the comment about women drivers was uncalled for.
Anyways I'm out of this thread.