dgk

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
wrote:

>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's a
>pain...
>
>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>
>---
>David
>
I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.

I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
will want 70.

Bobv

I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.

It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
below 65 for 'break in'.

First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
off. Still working on second tank.

My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
are folded up.

Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
lanyard.

AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
paddles if it was a CVT.

Never experienced the reflection problem.

My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.

It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
adjustment, but is doesn't.

Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.

"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>a
>>pain...
>>
>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>
>>---
>>David
>>
> I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
> gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
> have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>
> I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
> isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
> I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
> will want 70.

Bobv

I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.

It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
below 65 for 'break in'.

First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
off. Still working on second tank.

My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
are folded up.

Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
lanyard.

AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
paddles if it was a CVT.

Never experienced the reflection problem.

My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.

It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
adjustment, but is doesn't.

Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.

"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>a
>>pain...
>>
>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>
>>---
>>David
>>
> I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
> gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
> have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>
> I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
> isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
> I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
> will want 70.

Bobv

I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.

It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
below 65 for 'break in'.

First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
off. Still working on second tank.

My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
are folded up.

Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
lanyard.

AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
paddles if it was a CVT.

Never experienced the reflection problem.

My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.

It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
adjustment, but is doesn't.

Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.

"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>a
>>pain...
>>
>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>
>>---
>>David
>>
> I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
> gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
> have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>
> I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
> isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
> I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
> will want 70.

flobert

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:19:58 -0400, "Bobv" <speeden71@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.
>
>It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
>below 65 for 'break in'.
>
>First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
>off. Still working on second tank.
>
>My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
>are folded up.
>
>Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
>lanyard.
>
>AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
>paddles if it was a CVT.

not true. Some CVT cars come with pre-selected ratios that can make
the car behave like a regularly geared car.

>
>Never experienced the reflection problem.
>
>My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
>My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.
>
>It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
>adjustment, but is doesn't.
>
>Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
>never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
>jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.
>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>>a
>>>pain...
>>>
>>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>>
>>>---
>>>David
>>>
>> I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
>> gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
>> have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>>
>> I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
>> isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
>> I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
>> will want 70.
>

flobert

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:19:58 -0400, "Bobv" <speeden71@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.
>
>It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
>below 65 for 'break in'.
>
>First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
>off. Still working on second tank.
>
>My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
>are folded up.
>
>Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
>lanyard.
>
>AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
>paddles if it was a CVT.

not true. Some CVT cars come with pre-selected ratios that can make
the car behave like a regularly geared car.

>
>Never experienced the reflection problem.
>
>My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
>My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.
>
>It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
>adjustment, but is doesn't.
>
>Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
>never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
>jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.
>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>>a
>>>pain...
>>>
>>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>>
>>>---
>>>David
>>>
>> I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
>> gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
>> have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>>
>> I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
>> isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
>> I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
>> will want 70.
>

flobert

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:19:58 -0400, "Bobv" <speeden71@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.
>
>It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
>below 65 for 'break in'.
>
>First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
>off. Still working on second tank.
>
>My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
>are folded up.
>
>Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
>lanyard.
>
>AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
>paddles if it was a CVT.

not true. Some CVT cars come with pre-selected ratios that can make
the car behave like a regularly geared car.

>
>Never experienced the reflection problem.
>
>My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
>My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.
>
>It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
>adjustment, but is doesn't.
>
>Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
>never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
>jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.
>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>>a
>>>pain...
>>>
>>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>>
>>>---
>>>David
>>>
>> I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
>> gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
>> have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>>
>> I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
>> isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
>> I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
>> will want 70.
>

Michael Pardee

"Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150001423.647328.47320@c74g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>
>> It does seem a bit underpowered, but that is the cost of good gas
>> mileage, no?
>
> No.
> There is a complikated way to have a cake and eat it too:
> http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...n-golf-gt.html

Or even more effectively, by hybridizing. Supercharging and high compression
ratio (actually the same thing in effect) demand very high octane fuel or
direct injection, as VW did. When the dust clears, it is just a slightly
more efficient way of using an engine poorly at in-town speeds. Hybrid
technology separates engine power from acceleration performance... not very
effectively at this stage of development, but more so as the power electric
technology improves. See the Honda Dualnote concept car for more on that;
Honda's engineers call their use of IMA "electric supercharging" and claim
the off-the-line performance of the Dualnote with a 300HP 3.5L iVTEC V6 is
doubled by the electric assist.

Mike

Michael Pardee

"Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150001423.647328.47320@c74g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>
>> It does seem a bit underpowered, but that is the cost of good gas
>> mileage, no?
>
> No.
> There is a complikated way to have a cake and eat it too:
> http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...n-golf-gt.html

Or even more effectively, by hybridizing. Supercharging and high compression
ratio (actually the same thing in effect) demand very high octane fuel or
direct injection, as VW did. When the dust clears, it is just a slightly
more efficient way of using an engine poorly at in-town speeds. Hybrid
technology separates engine power from acceleration performance... not very
effectively at this stage of development, but more so as the power electric
technology improves. See the Honda Dualnote concept car for more on that;
Honda's engineers call their use of IMA "electric supercharging" and claim
the off-the-line performance of the Dualnote with a 300HP 3.5L iVTEC V6 is
doubled by the electric assist.

Mike

Michael Pardee

"Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150001423.647328.47320@c74g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>
>> It does seem a bit underpowered, but that is the cost of good gas
>> mileage, no?
>
> No.
> There is a complikated way to have a cake and eat it too:
> http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...n-golf-gt.html

Or even more effectively, by hybridizing. Supercharging and high compression
ratio (actually the same thing in effect) demand very high octane fuel or
direct injection, as VW did. When the dust clears, it is just a slightly
more efficient way of using an engine poorly at in-town speeds. Hybrid
technology separates engine power from acceleration performance... not very
effectively at this stage of development, but more so as the power electric
technology improves. See the Honda Dualnote concept car for more on that;
Honda's engineers call their use of IMA "electric supercharging" and claim
the off-the-line performance of the Dualnote with a 300HP 3.5L iVTEC V6 is
doubled by the electric assist.

Mike

David Wyne

Hi,

> AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
> paddles if it was a CVT.


I'm not sure how it works, but I think the "manual" function just allows you
to make one of a number of pre-set selections of gear ratio. FOR SURE, as
you take off, there's no gear change, the car just keeps getting faster.
The rate of "getting faster" is determined by how hard you've pressed the
accelerator.

---
David

David Wyne

Hi,

> AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
> paddles if it was a CVT.


I'm not sure how it works, but I think the "manual" function just allows you
to make one of a number of pre-set selections of gear ratio. FOR SURE, as
you take off, there's no gear change, the car just keeps getting faster.
The rate of "getting faster" is determined by how hard you've pressed the
accelerator.

---
David

David Wyne

Hi,

> AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
> paddles if it was a CVT.


I'm not sure how it works, but I think the "manual" function just allows you
to make one of a number of pre-set selections of gear ratio. FOR SURE, as
you take off, there's no gear change, the car just keeps getting faster.
The rate of "getting faster" is determined by how hard you've pressed the
accelerator.

---
David

jim beam

flobert wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:19:58 -0400, "Bobv" <speeden71@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.
>>
>>It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
>>below 65 for 'break in'.
>>
>>First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
>>off. Still working on second tank.
>>
>>My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
>>are folded up.
>>
>>Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
>>lanyard.
>>
>>AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
>>paddles if it was a CVT.
>
>
> not true. Some CVT cars come with pre-selected ratios that can make
> the car behave like a regularly geared car.

amazing isn't it? rather than take the time to explain to the customer
how cvt is different and better, the detroit marketing droids [who only
drove the car around the block in this thing anyway] came back with this
stupid "make it shift notchy like a 'real' automatic" idea, and behold,
we have stupidity programmed into what is a otherwise a very fine
vehicle. seriously, anyone that's ever driven a cvt for any length of
time really doesn't miss the "shift" of a traditional automatic. and
anyone that's driven a cvt for any length of time appreciates just how
damned fast those things get away from the lights because they're always
geared /exactly/ right. every time marketing over-rides engineering on
something asinine like this, it makes my brain hurt.

>
>
>>Never experienced the reflection problem.
>>
>>My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
>>My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.
>>
>>It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
>>adjustment, but is doesn't.
>>
>>Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
>>never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
>>jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.
>>
>>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>>>a
>>>>pain...
>>>>
>>>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>>>
>>>>---
>>>>David
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
>>>gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
>>>have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>>>
>>>I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
>>>isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
>>>I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
>>>will want 70.
>>
>

jim beam

flobert wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:19:58 -0400, "Bobv" <speeden71@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I have had my Honda Fit Sport AT for 2 weeks.
>>
>>It has plenty of zip. I can cruise at 70 no problem. Been trying to keep it
>>below 65 for 'break in'.
>>
>>First tank(mostly city) was a little over 30mpg, but not sure it was topped
>>off. Still working on second tank.
>>
>>My bicycle(with front wheel removed) barily fits in mid area when back sits
>>are folded up.
>>
>>Have already replaced gas cap with locking gas cap but had to give up
>>lanyard.
>>
>>AT transmission is a 5 speed, NOT a CVT. There would be no point to the
>>paddles if it was a CVT.
>
>
> not true. Some CVT cars come with pre-selected ratios that can make
> the car behave like a regularly geared car.

amazing isn't it? rather than take the time to explain to the customer
how cvt is different and better, the detroit marketing droids [who only
drove the car around the block in this thing anyway] came back with this
stupid "make it shift notchy like a 'real' automatic" idea, and behold,
we have stupidity programmed into what is a otherwise a very fine
vehicle. seriously, anyone that's ever driven a cvt for any length of
time really doesn't miss the "shift" of a traditional automatic. and
anyone that's driven a cvt for any length of time appreciates just how
damned fast those things get away from the lights because they're always
geared /exactly/ right. every time marketing over-rides engineering on
something asinine like this, it makes my brain hurt.

>
>
>>Never experienced the reflection problem.
>>
>>My co-workers call it a clown car. I find it very fun to drive around town.
>>My other car for weekends and girfreind is a Lexus.
>>
>>It would be really nice of the driver's seat had vertical and angle
>>adjustment, but is doesn't.
>>
>>Why they didn't build XM into the radio like must other Honda models, I will
>>never know. Not even XM ready. I have my XM roady plugged into the aux
>>jack. Works fine but not as good as built in.
>>
>>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>news:msct825oi4or0stkda3i16h1gd2f9sq4bg@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's
>>>>a
>>>>pain...
>>>>
>>>>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>>>>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>>>>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>>>>
>>>>---
>>>>David
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
>>>gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
>>>have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.
>>>
>>>I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
>>>isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
>>>I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
>>>will want 70.
>>
>