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dispman2000@yahoo.com 03-02-2005 09:05 AM

Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.

Any help will be much appreciated.

halo2 guy 03-02-2005 12:37 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96 Accord
but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to you.

I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.

I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just a
high amp load?


<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com...
>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.




halo2 guy 03-02-2005 12:37 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96 Accord
but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to you.

I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.

I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just a
high amp load?


<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com...
>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.




dispman2000@yahoo.com 03-02-2005 02:30 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
The problem started with the battery going dead. Put on new battery
and the battery drained overnight. Found that something was drawing a
lot of current with everything turned off using a test light. Checked
between the pos and neg cables and was reading 0 ohms pulled the #9
15 amp fuse and the short went away. Left battery cables on with #9
fuse out overnight and the battery stayed charged overnight. Just need
to know what this fuse feeds so I can trace down where the problem is.

Thanks for your help.



On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:37:15 -0800, "halo2 guy"
<somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote:

>You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96 Accord
>but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to you.
>
>I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.
>
>I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
>not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
>curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just a
>high amp load?
>
>
><dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com.. .
>>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>



dispman2000@yahoo.com 03-02-2005 02:30 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
The problem started with the battery going dead. Put on new battery
and the battery drained overnight. Found that something was drawing a
lot of current with everything turned off using a test light. Checked
between the pos and neg cables and was reading 0 ohms pulled the #9
15 amp fuse and the short went away. Left battery cables on with #9
fuse out overnight and the battery stayed charged overnight. Just need
to know what this fuse feeds so I can trace down where the problem is.

Thanks for your help.



On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:37:15 -0800, "halo2 guy"
<somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote:

>You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96 Accord
>but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to you.
>
>I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.
>
>I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
>not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
>curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just a
>high amp load?
>
>
><dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com.. .
>>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>



halo2 guy 03-02-2005 02:56 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
well in my factory electrical 1996 accord manual the number 9 fuse is under
the dash/ as opposed to under the hood and it is listed as 7.5 amp fuse it
is called the starter signal fuse which protects the "guage assembly, pgm-fi
main relay, powertrain or engine control module (pcm or ECM)"







<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ih4c21pbu4psg9dr9v8gfhrebn86us4hab@4ax.com...
> The problem started with the battery going dead. Put on new battery
> and the battery drained overnight. Found that something was drawing a
> lot of current with everything turned off using a test light. Checked
> between the pos and neg cables and was reading 0 ohms pulled the #9
> 15 amp fuse and the short went away. Left battery cables on with #9
> fuse out overnight and the battery stayed charged overnight. Just need
> to know what this fuse feeds so I can trace down where the problem is.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:37:15 -0800, "halo2 guy"
> <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote:
>
>>You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96
>>Accord
>>but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to
>>you.
>>
>>I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.
>>
>>I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
>>not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
>>curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just
>>a
>>high amp load?
>>
>>
>><dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com. ..
>>>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>

>




halo2 guy 03-02-2005 02:56 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
well in my factory electrical 1996 accord manual the number 9 fuse is under
the dash/ as opposed to under the hood and it is listed as 7.5 amp fuse it
is called the starter signal fuse which protects the "guage assembly, pgm-fi
main relay, powertrain or engine control module (pcm or ECM)"







<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ih4c21pbu4psg9dr9v8gfhrebn86us4hab@4ax.com...
> The problem started with the battery going dead. Put on new battery
> and the battery drained overnight. Found that something was drawing a
> lot of current with everything turned off using a test light. Checked
> between the pos and neg cables and was reading 0 ohms pulled the #9
> 15 amp fuse and the short went away. Left battery cables on with #9
> fuse out overnight and the battery stayed charged overnight. Just need
> to know what this fuse feeds so I can trace down where the problem is.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:37:15 -0800, "halo2 guy"
> <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote:
>
>>You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96
>>Accord
>>but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to
>>you.
>>
>>I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.
>>
>>I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
>>not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
>>curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just
>>a
>>high amp load?
>>
>>
>><dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com. ..
>>>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>

>




Woody 03-03-2005 06:24 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you unplug
the fan to see if it is shorted?


"halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
news:EZydnbvXP-Mch7vfRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> well in my factory electrical 1996 accord manual the number 9 fuse is
> under the dash/ as opposed to under the hood and it is listed as 7.5 amp
> fuse it is called the starter signal fuse which protects the "guage
> assembly, pgm-fi main relay, powertrain or engine control module (pcm or
> ECM)"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ih4c21pbu4psg9dr9v8gfhrebn86us4hab@4ax.com...
>> The problem started with the battery going dead. Put on new battery
>> and the battery drained overnight. Found that something was drawing a
>> lot of current with everything turned off using a test light. Checked
>> between the pos and neg cables and was reading 0 ohms pulled the #9
>> 15 amp fuse and the short went away. Left battery cables on with #9
>> fuse out overnight and the battery stayed charged overnight. Just need
>> to know what this fuse feeds so I can trace down where the problem is.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:37:15 -0800, "halo2 guy"
>> <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96
>>>Accord
>>>but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to
>>>you.
>>>
>>>I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.
>>>
>>>I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
>>>not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
>>>curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just
>>>a
>>>high amp load?
>>>
>>>
>>><dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com ...
>>>>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>>>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>>>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>>>
>>>> Any help will be much appreciated.
>>>

>>

>
>




Woody 03-03-2005 06:24 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you unplug
the fan to see if it is shorted?


"halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
news:EZydnbvXP-Mch7vfRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> well in my factory electrical 1996 accord manual the number 9 fuse is
> under the dash/ as opposed to under the hood and it is listed as 7.5 amp
> fuse it is called the starter signal fuse which protects the "guage
> assembly, pgm-fi main relay, powertrain or engine control module (pcm or
> ECM)"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ih4c21pbu4psg9dr9v8gfhrebn86us4hab@4ax.com...
>> The problem started with the battery going dead. Put on new battery
>> and the battery drained overnight. Found that something was drawing a
>> lot of current with everything turned off using a test light. Checked
>> between the pos and neg cables and was reading 0 ohms pulled the #9
>> 15 amp fuse and the short went away. Left battery cables on with #9
>> fuse out overnight and the battery stayed charged overnight. Just need
>> to know what this fuse feeds so I can trace down where the problem is.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:37:15 -0800, "halo2 guy"
>> <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You need a factory schematic manual. I happen to have one for the 96
>>>Accord
>>>but I have no way of scanning it or really relaying the information to
>>>you.
>>>
>>>I am sure somebody in here can scan a few pages for you.
>>>
>>>I would look at the fues rating to see if it is indeed the correct fuse,
>>>not that it would matter if indeed you have a short to ground. I am also
>>>curios how you determined you have a short to ground as opposed to a just
>>>a
>>>high amp load?
>>>
>>>
>>><dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8qhb21l17jig4h1vm0l74rbs2vl2i2rjbf@4ax.com ...
>>>>I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>>>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>>>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>>>
>>>> Any help will be much appreciated.
>>>

>>

>
>




scott 03-03-2005 09:03 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:

> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>

BONEHEAD
good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
maybe garage.
"first, do no harm", words to live by

scott 03-03-2005 09:03 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:

> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>

BONEHEAD
good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
maybe garage.
"first, do no harm", words to live by

Randolph 03-03-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 

wrote:
>
> I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.


I have some pdf's that might be of interest to you. I'll e-mail you at
dispman2000@yahoo.com with a link to these.

In the diagram I found, fuse #9 does not feed the condenser fan but it
does feed the compressor clutch.

In the Helm manual, the A/C wiring diagram is in the heater / A/C
section, not in the electrical section, perhaps the Haynes manual is
organized the same way?

--
================================================== =====
A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at:
http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph

Randolph 03-03-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 

wrote:
>
> I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.


I have some pdf's that might be of interest to you. I'll e-mail you at
dispman2000@yahoo.com with a link to these.

In the diagram I found, fuse #9 does not feed the condenser fan but it
does feed the compressor clutch.

In the Helm manual, the A/C wiring diagram is in the heater / A/C
section, not in the electrical section, perhaps the Haynes manual is
organized the same way?

--
================================================== =====
A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at:
http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph

Woody 03-04-2005 03:19 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Yep it is a bonehead reply and was meant to be. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS UNPLUG
THE FAN AND SEE IF IT STILL HAS THE SHORT.


"scott" <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in message
news:Xns960ECCC9F4397nunya@207.115.63.158...
> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
> news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:
>
>> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
>> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>>

> BONEHEAD
> good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
> maybe garage.
> "first, do no harm", words to live by




Woody 03-04-2005 03:19 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Yep it is a bonehead reply and was meant to be. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS UNPLUG
THE FAN AND SEE IF IT STILL HAS THE SHORT.


"scott" <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in message
news:Xns960ECCC9F4397nunya@207.115.63.158...
> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
> news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:
>
>> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
>> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>>

> BONEHEAD
> good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
> maybe garage.
> "first, do no harm", words to live by





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