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dispman2000@yahoo.com 03-05-2005 08:45 AM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Yp already tried that. That is why I was looking for a wiring diagram
to see where all this fuse went to. I was looking for answers not a
smartass reply.

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 20:19:43 GMT, "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:

>Yep it is a bonehead reply and was meant to be. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS UNPLUG
>THE FAN AND SEE IF IT STILL HAS THE SHORT.
>
>
>"scott" <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in message
>news:Xns960ECCC9F4397nunya@207.115.63.158...
>> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
>> news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:
>>
>>> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
>>> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>>>

>> BONEHEAD
>> good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
>> maybe garage.
>> "first, do no harm", words to live by

>



dispman2000@yahoo.com 03-05-2005 08:45 AM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Yp already tried that. That is why I was looking for a wiring diagram
to see where all this fuse went to. I was looking for answers not a
smartass reply.

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 20:19:43 GMT, "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:

>Yep it is a bonehead reply and was meant to be. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS UNPLUG
>THE FAN AND SEE IF IT STILL HAS THE SHORT.
>
>
>"scott" <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in message
>news:Xns960ECCC9F4397nunya@207.115.63.158...
>> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
>> news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:
>>
>>> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
>>> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>>>

>> BONEHEAD
>> good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
>> maybe garage.
>> "first, do no harm", words to live by

>



halo2 guy 03-05-2005 10:57 AM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
I had mentioned what things were on this circuit a few posts ago. I also
mentioned that my book shows fuse number 9 as a 7.5 amp fuse. That circuit
is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position of the key. It
powers your guage assembly, clutch interlock switch if manual trans, PGM-FI
main relay and powertrain control module....all in the start position



<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dmdj21ln036r4fg0i1g3icpssb8n767efs@4ax.com...
> Yp already tried that. That is why I was looking for a wiring diagram
> to see where all this fuse went to. I was looking for answers not a
> smartass reply.
>
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 20:19:43 GMT, "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>
>>Yep it is a bonehead reply and was meant to be. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS UNPLUG
>>THE FAN AND SEE IF IT STILL HAS THE SHORT.
>>
>>
>>"scott" <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in message
>>news:Xns960ECCC9F4397nunya@207.115.63.158...
>>> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
>>> news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:
>>>
>>>> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
>>>> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>>>>
>>> BONEHEAD
>>> good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
>>> maybe garage.
>>> "first, do no harm", words to live by

>>

>




halo2 guy 03-05-2005 10:57 AM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
I had mentioned what things were on this circuit a few posts ago. I also
mentioned that my book shows fuse number 9 as a 7.5 amp fuse. That circuit
is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position of the key. It
powers your guage assembly, clutch interlock switch if manual trans, PGM-FI
main relay and powertrain control module....all in the start position



<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dmdj21ln036r4fg0i1g3icpssb8n767efs@4ax.com...
> Yp already tried that. That is why I was looking for a wiring diagram
> to see where all this fuse went to. I was looking for answers not a
> smartass reply.
>
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 20:19:43 GMT, "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>
>>Yep it is a bonehead reply and was meant to be. ALL HE HAS TO DO IS UNPLUG
>>THE FAN AND SEE IF IT STILL HAS THE SHORT.
>>
>>
>>"scott" <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in message
>>news:Xns960ECCC9F4397nunya@207.115.63.158...
>>> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
>>> news:A0NVd.16182$hU7.8927@newssvr33.news.prodigy.c om:
>>>
>>>> Try your local library or short the fuse and watch for smoke. Did you
>>>> unplug the fan to see if it is shorted?
>>>>
>>> BONEHEAD
>>> good way to destroy the wiring harness, even possibly burn up car and
>>> maybe garage.
>>> "first, do no harm", words to live by

>>

>




dispman2000@yahoo.com 03-05-2005 05:09 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Don't know what is correct. In my owners manual this fuse is listed as
fuse #9 15 amps under the hood.. The cover for the fuse box list it as
the compressor fan 15 amp. One has to be wrong maybe i will figure
this out. Hate to go to the dealer. I went there last Summer and they
wanted to do $1000 worth of work. Took it to an independent who used
to work there and he did all the work for around $350. I am not sure
if he does electrical work but I do know he is honest and does good
work.



On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:18:01 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

>
> wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>
>I have some pdf's that might be of interest to you. I'll e-mail you at
>dispman2000@yahoo.com with a link to these.
>
>In the diagram I found, fuse #9 does not feed the condenser fan but it
>does feed the compressor clutch.
>
>In the Helm manual, the A/C wiring diagram is in the heater / A/C
>section, not in the electrical section, perhaps the Haynes manual is
>organized the same way?



dispman2000@yahoo.com 03-05-2005 05:09 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Don't know what is correct. In my owners manual this fuse is listed as
fuse #9 15 amps under the hood.. The cover for the fuse box list it as
the compressor fan 15 amp. One has to be wrong maybe i will figure
this out. Hate to go to the dealer. I went there last Summer and they
wanted to do $1000 worth of work. Took it to an independent who used
to work there and he did all the work for around $350. I am not sure
if he does electrical work but I do know he is honest and does good
work.



On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:18:01 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

>
> wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>
>I have some pdf's that might be of interest to you. I'll e-mail you at
>dispman2000@yahoo.com with a link to these.
>
>In the diagram I found, fuse #9 does not feed the condenser fan but it
>does feed the compressor clutch.
>
>In the Helm manual, the A/C wiring diagram is in the heater / A/C
>section, not in the electrical section, perhaps the Haynes manual is
>organized the same way?



David and Tracey Mills 03-05-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
"That circuit is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position
of the key."

I think you mean ignition on position ?

D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.


David and Tracey Mills 03-05-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
"That circuit is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position
of the key."

I think you mean ignition on position ?

D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.


halo2 guy 03-05-2005 09:55 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Just quoting the book verbatim...it states fuse 9 is "hot in start" So
that would indicate that while the engine is turning over power is supplied
to the circuit...


"David and Tracey Mills" <themills.clan@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422A5230.DB9F6CF1@ns.sympatico.ca...
> "That circuit is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position
> of the key."
>
> I think you mean ignition on position ?
>
> D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.
>




halo2 guy 03-05-2005 09:55 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Just quoting the book verbatim...it states fuse 9 is "hot in start" So
that would indicate that while the engine is turning over power is supplied
to the circuit...


"David and Tracey Mills" <themills.clan@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422A5230.DB9F6CF1@ns.sympatico.ca...
> "That circuit is also only listed as being "hot" in the start position
> of the key."
>
> I think you mean ignition on position ?
>
> D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.
>




halo2 guy 03-05-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
let us clarify that this is a 96 accord...DX or LX or EX doesn't matter as
they all use the same manual.


<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:92bk21l4bu6p0o7v3efeltbh4i4vs64fc1@4ax.com...
> Don't know what is correct. In my owners manual this fuse is listed as
> fuse #9 15 amps under the hood.. The cover for the fuse box list it as
> the compressor fan 15 amp. One has to be wrong maybe i will figure
> this out. Hate to go to the dealer. I went there last Summer and they
> wanted to do $1000 worth of work. Took it to an independent who used
> to work there and he did all the work for around $350. I am not sure
> if he does electrical work but I do know he is honest and does good
> work.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:18:01 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>
>>I have some pdf's that might be of interest to you. I'll e-mail you at
>>dispman2000@yahoo.com with a link to these.
>>
>>In the diagram I found, fuse #9 does not feed the condenser fan but it
>>does feed the compressor clutch.
>>
>>In the Helm manual, the A/C wiring diagram is in the heater / A/C
>>section, not in the electrical section, perhaps the Haynes manual is
>>organized the same way?

>




halo2 guy 03-05-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
let us clarify that this is a 96 accord...DX or LX or EX doesn't matter as
they all use the same manual.


<dispman2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:92bk21l4bu6p0o7v3efeltbh4i4vs64fc1@4ax.com...
> Don't know what is correct. In my owners manual this fuse is listed as
> fuse #9 15 amps under the hood.. The cover for the fuse box list it as
> the compressor fan 15 amp. One has to be wrong maybe i will figure
> this out. Hate to go to the dealer. I went there last Summer and they
> wanted to do $1000 worth of work. Took it to an independent who used
> to work there and he did all the work for around $350. I am not sure
> if he does electrical work but I do know he is honest and does good
> work.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:18:01 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for a wiring diagram for a 1996 Honda Accord DX. I have a
>>> 12 volt short to ground at fuse 9 that goes to the condenser fan. My
>>> Hane's manual does not show the wiring diagram for this circuit.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>
>>I have some pdf's that might be of interest to you. I'll e-mail you at
>>dispman2000@yahoo.com with a link to these.
>>
>>In the diagram I found, fuse #9 does not feed the condenser fan but it
>>does feed the compressor clutch.
>>
>>In the Helm manual, the A/C wiring diagram is in the heater / A/C
>>section, not in the electrical section, perhaps the Haynes manual is
>>organized the same way?

>




David and Tracey Mills 03-06-2005 09:42 AM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Okay, just wondering because you said that the gauge assembly was on
that circuit, and I was wondering where the gauge assembly would get its
feed from if it wasn't from the ignition on position. Must be different
from my Civic.

D.Mills - Licensed Auto Technician.


David and Tracey Mills 03-06-2005 09:42 AM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Okay, just wondering because you said that the gauge assembly was on
that circuit, and I was wondering where the gauge assembly would get its
feed from if it wasn't from the ignition on position. Must be different
from my Civic.

D.Mills - Licensed Auto Technician.


halo2 guy 03-06-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Condenser Fan Circuit Shorted To Ground
 
Obviously the guage assembly gets it's power from some other source during
normal operation.

The power going to the guage assembly is actually for the break light bulb
check circuit. Accords have the brake light out indicator. The power from
fuse 9, during the start mode, powers this circuit and checks for burnt out
bulbs.


"David and Tracey Mills" <themills.clan@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:422B16A5.AA084AD8@ns.sympatico.ca...
> Okay, just wondering because you said that the gauge assembly was on
> that circuit, and I was wondering where the gauge assembly would get its
> feed from if it wasn't from the ignition on position. Must be different
> from my Civic.
>
> D.Mills - Licensed Auto Technician.
>





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