Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
06-03-2006, 08:39 AM
#61
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>>jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"ExtremeValue" <raheem@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>news:1149249467.727173.314910@g10g2000cwb.go oglegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For drain and refill it cost me
>>>>>>>3 litre @7.something = $21.something +
>>>>>>>30 min labour= $25
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All prices is Canadian dollars and from a Honda dealer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A half-hour of dealer labor is $25? Was this 20 years ago or something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dealer shop rate these days is more like $90 per hour. Even higher in some
>>>>>>places. Even the independents are around $60-$70/hr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And that drain and fill only replaced about half the total fluid, so you'd
>>>>>>need to get it done several times to make sure most of it's fresh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>TeGGeR®
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a big fault that I find with Honda automatics... No converter
>>>>>drain plug.
>>>>>
>>>>>JT
>>>>
>>>>why? it's not necessary. and on a thin sheet converter like this, it
>>>>would not only cause unnecessary balance issues, it would be a potential
>>>>fatigue point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Why???
>>>
>>>Why should one have to change fluid several times to renew and even
>>>then, some old fluid will remain. It is a major flaw in a lot of modern
>>>tin, er.. plastic.
>>>
>>>There is no excuse for poor serviceability by Honda or any other
>>>manufacturer for that matter.
>>>
>>>Shame on Honda for shaving a few cents in manufacturing savings that
>>>results in a major inconvenience for customers regarding the maintenance
>>>of their cars.
>>>
>>>Just because it's a Honda does not mean it's perfect.
>>>
>>>JT
>>
>>with respect, i don't think you're considering all the design criteria.
>> as far as lubrication is concerned, there's really no need to fret too
>>much about the changes. there's two main sources of fluid problems:
>>contamination and heat degradation. contamination comes from friction
>>lining wear [not as much of an issue with the honda design], from gear
>>tooth wear and to a much lesser extent, bearing wear. as far as gear
>>box control operation is concerned, the filter ensures contaminant
>>particle size is kept below a critical level where they won't cause
>>harm. and as you know, the filter can't be changed]. heat degradation
>>is not common unless service conditions are unusual or there's something
>>wrong. this, in combination with better lube technology these days,
>>means a lot of cars not only specify highly extended change intervals,
>>some [bmw] don't even specify a change at all and don't provide any kind
>>of drain plug! my friend's 88 automatic accord had /never/ had a fluid
>>change in 360k miles [yes, three hundred and sixty thousand miles] and
>>that car ran & shifted like a champ.
>>
>>so, sure, it's a "nice to have" to be able to change 100% of the fluid,
>>but reality is, when looking into the actual service conditions of the
>>lube itself, that it's just not that critical. balance that against the
>>very sound mechanical reasons [converter design] for /not/ putting in a
>>converter drain, and the 100% fluid change concept is easily abandoned.
>
>
>
> Uh, in the Texas heat, dino fluid is good for not much longer than 50K.
texas gets hotter than ca or nv? tx is more humid, but that just
affects wet stuff like humans, not sealed stuff like transmissions.
besides, ambient of 100F isn't exactly extreme for a lubricant.
> Add to this the lack of a filter that cannot be changed (or cleaned)
> plus the lack of a drain plug in the converter (where the majority of
> fluid resides), Honda is shortchanging its customers pure and simple.
> The record of tranny failures speak for itself.
record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> I'm done with this thread.
>
> JT
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>>jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"ExtremeValue" <raheem@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>news:1149249467.727173.314910@g10g2000cwb.go oglegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For drain and refill it cost me
>>>>>>>3 litre @7.something = $21.something +
>>>>>>>30 min labour= $25
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All prices is Canadian dollars and from a Honda dealer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A half-hour of dealer labor is $25? Was this 20 years ago or something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dealer shop rate these days is more like $90 per hour. Even higher in some
>>>>>>places. Even the independents are around $60-$70/hr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And that drain and fill only replaced about half the total fluid, so you'd
>>>>>>need to get it done several times to make sure most of it's fresh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>TeGGeR®
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a big fault that I find with Honda automatics... No converter
>>>>>drain plug.
>>>>>
>>>>>JT
>>>>
>>>>why? it's not necessary. and on a thin sheet converter like this, it
>>>>would not only cause unnecessary balance issues, it would be a potential
>>>>fatigue point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Why???
>>>
>>>Why should one have to change fluid several times to renew and even
>>>then, some old fluid will remain. It is a major flaw in a lot of modern
>>>tin, er.. plastic.
>>>
>>>There is no excuse for poor serviceability by Honda or any other
>>>manufacturer for that matter.
>>>
>>>Shame on Honda for shaving a few cents in manufacturing savings that
>>>results in a major inconvenience for customers regarding the maintenance
>>>of their cars.
>>>
>>>Just because it's a Honda does not mean it's perfect.
>>>
>>>JT
>>
>>with respect, i don't think you're considering all the design criteria.
>> as far as lubrication is concerned, there's really no need to fret too
>>much about the changes. there's two main sources of fluid problems:
>>contamination and heat degradation. contamination comes from friction
>>lining wear [not as much of an issue with the honda design], from gear
>>tooth wear and to a much lesser extent, bearing wear. as far as gear
>>box control operation is concerned, the filter ensures contaminant
>>particle size is kept below a critical level where they won't cause
>>harm. and as you know, the filter can't be changed]. heat degradation
>>is not common unless service conditions are unusual or there's something
>>wrong. this, in combination with better lube technology these days,
>>means a lot of cars not only specify highly extended change intervals,
>>some [bmw] don't even specify a change at all and don't provide any kind
>>of drain plug! my friend's 88 automatic accord had /never/ had a fluid
>>change in 360k miles [yes, three hundred and sixty thousand miles] and
>>that car ran & shifted like a champ.
>>
>>so, sure, it's a "nice to have" to be able to change 100% of the fluid,
>>but reality is, when looking into the actual service conditions of the
>>lube itself, that it's just not that critical. balance that against the
>>very sound mechanical reasons [converter design] for /not/ putting in a
>>converter drain, and the 100% fluid change concept is easily abandoned.
>
>
>
> Uh, in the Texas heat, dino fluid is good for not much longer than 50K.
texas gets hotter than ca or nv? tx is more humid, but that just
affects wet stuff like humans, not sealed stuff like transmissions.
besides, ambient of 100F isn't exactly extreme for a lubricant.
> Add to this the lack of a filter that cannot be changed (or cleaned)
> plus the lack of a drain plug in the converter (where the majority of
> fluid resides), Honda is shortchanging its customers pure and simple.
> The record of tranny failures speak for itself.
record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> I'm done with this thread.
>
> JT
06-03-2006, 01:26 PM
#62
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:
>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
and effort involved.
J.
wrote:
>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
and effort involved.
J.
06-03-2006, 01:26 PM
#63
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:
>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
and effort involved.
J.
wrote:
>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
and effort involved.
J.
06-03-2006, 01:26 PM
#64
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:
>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
and effort involved.
J.
wrote:
>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
and effort involved.
J.
06-03-2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
This brings up a good point. I wonder if you could put a drain on the
tranny that would do a better job, and if so, where?
BTW, I have sold two Accords with Auto trans with almost 200k on them, and
now one ever had a problem. And from what I know, they are still going
strong. I did change the fluid at the recommended intervals, and I NEVER
flushed one.
And in response to that other comment, I would agree, Honda's are NOT
prefect by far, but I find them to be the lesser of the evils. I have now
had 15 new Hondas on over 22 years. I commute, and I rack up miles. I have
had everything fro Civics to Accords. In those 15 cars, other than regular
maintenance, I have had the following expenses.
2001 Accord had a main oil seal let go at 115k, $10 part and $700 to get
replaced.
2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
was bad, cost $120 installed.
94 Civic I got used had a Head Gasket go at 90k, cost $500
94 Civic, CV Joint Replacement.
94 Accord had a clutch warp. Complained when it was under warrant, so the
dealer replaced it long after the warranty, cost $0
I'm sure I have forgotten some minor under $50 items, but this has been my
major expenses other than normal brakes, timing belts, etc etc. Before
Honda, I used to spend a lot on a car after 70-80k miles.
G-Man
Anything else was less than $100.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
>
> J.
>
tranny that would do a better job, and if so, where?
BTW, I have sold two Accords with Auto trans with almost 200k on them, and
now one ever had a problem. And from what I know, they are still going
strong. I did change the fluid at the recommended intervals, and I NEVER
flushed one.
And in response to that other comment, I would agree, Honda's are NOT
prefect by far, but I find them to be the lesser of the evils. I have now
had 15 new Hondas on over 22 years. I commute, and I rack up miles. I have
had everything fro Civics to Accords. In those 15 cars, other than regular
maintenance, I have had the following expenses.
2001 Accord had a main oil seal let go at 115k, $10 part and $700 to get
replaced.
2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
was bad, cost $120 installed.
94 Civic I got used had a Head Gasket go at 90k, cost $500
94 Civic, CV Joint Replacement.
94 Accord had a clutch warp. Complained when it was under warrant, so the
dealer replaced it long after the warranty, cost $0
I'm sure I have forgotten some minor under $50 items, but this has been my
major expenses other than normal brakes, timing belts, etc etc. Before
Honda, I used to spend a lot on a car after 70-80k miles.
G-Man
Anything else was less than $100.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
>
> J.
>
06-03-2006, 01:41 PM
#66
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
This brings up a good point. I wonder if you could put a drain on the
tranny that would do a better job, and if so, where?
BTW, I have sold two Accords with Auto trans with almost 200k on them, and
now one ever had a problem. And from what I know, they are still going
strong. I did change the fluid at the recommended intervals, and I NEVER
flushed one.
And in response to that other comment, I would agree, Honda's are NOT
prefect by far, but I find them to be the lesser of the evils. I have now
had 15 new Hondas on over 22 years. I commute, and I rack up miles. I have
had everything fro Civics to Accords. In those 15 cars, other than regular
maintenance, I have had the following expenses.
2001 Accord had a main oil seal let go at 115k, $10 part and $700 to get
replaced.
2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
was bad, cost $120 installed.
94 Civic I got used had a Head Gasket go at 90k, cost $500
94 Civic, CV Joint Replacement.
94 Accord had a clutch warp. Complained when it was under warrant, so the
dealer replaced it long after the warranty, cost $0
I'm sure I have forgotten some minor under $50 items, but this has been my
major expenses other than normal brakes, timing belts, etc etc. Before
Honda, I used to spend a lot on a car after 70-80k miles.
G-Man
Anything else was less than $100.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
>
> J.
>
tranny that would do a better job, and if so, where?
BTW, I have sold two Accords with Auto trans with almost 200k on them, and
now one ever had a problem. And from what I know, they are still going
strong. I did change the fluid at the recommended intervals, and I NEVER
flushed one.
And in response to that other comment, I would agree, Honda's are NOT
prefect by far, but I find them to be the lesser of the evils. I have now
had 15 new Hondas on over 22 years. I commute, and I rack up miles. I have
had everything fro Civics to Accords. In those 15 cars, other than regular
maintenance, I have had the following expenses.
2001 Accord had a main oil seal let go at 115k, $10 part and $700 to get
replaced.
2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
was bad, cost $120 installed.
94 Civic I got used had a Head Gasket go at 90k, cost $500
94 Civic, CV Joint Replacement.
94 Accord had a clutch warp. Complained when it was under warrant, so the
dealer replaced it long after the warranty, cost $0
I'm sure I have forgotten some minor under $50 items, but this has been my
major expenses other than normal brakes, timing belts, etc etc. Before
Honda, I used to spend a lot on a car after 70-80k miles.
G-Man
Anything else was less than $100.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
>
> J.
>
06-03-2006, 01:41 PM
#67
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
This brings up a good point. I wonder if you could put a drain on the
tranny that would do a better job, and if so, where?
BTW, I have sold two Accords with Auto trans with almost 200k on them, and
now one ever had a problem. And from what I know, they are still going
strong. I did change the fluid at the recommended intervals, and I NEVER
flushed one.
And in response to that other comment, I would agree, Honda's are NOT
prefect by far, but I find them to be the lesser of the evils. I have now
had 15 new Hondas on over 22 years. I commute, and I rack up miles. I have
had everything fro Civics to Accords. In those 15 cars, other than regular
maintenance, I have had the following expenses.
2001 Accord had a main oil seal let go at 115k, $10 part and $700 to get
replaced.
2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
was bad, cost $120 installed.
94 Civic I got used had a Head Gasket go at 90k, cost $500
94 Civic, CV Joint Replacement.
94 Accord had a clutch warp. Complained when it was under warrant, so the
dealer replaced it long after the warranty, cost $0
I'm sure I have forgotten some minor under $50 items, but this has been my
major expenses other than normal brakes, timing belts, etc etc. Before
Honda, I used to spend a lot on a car after 70-80k miles.
G-Man
Anything else was less than $100.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
>
> J.
>
tranny that would do a better job, and if so, where?
BTW, I have sold two Accords with Auto trans with almost 200k on them, and
now one ever had a problem. And from what I know, they are still going
strong. I did change the fluid at the recommended intervals, and I NEVER
flushed one.
And in response to that other comment, I would agree, Honda's are NOT
prefect by far, but I find them to be the lesser of the evils. I have now
had 15 new Hondas on over 22 years. I commute, and I rack up miles. I have
had everything fro Civics to Accords. In those 15 cars, other than regular
maintenance, I have had the following expenses.
2001 Accord had a main oil seal let go at 115k, $10 part and $700 to get
replaced.
2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
was bad, cost $120 installed.
94 Civic I got used had a Head Gasket go at 90k, cost $500
94 Civic, CV Joint Replacement.
94 Accord had a clutch warp. Complained when it was under warrant, so the
dealer replaced it long after the warranty, cost $0
I'm sure I have forgotten some minor under $50 items, but this has been my
major expenses other than normal brakes, timing belts, etc etc. Before
Honda, I used to spend a lot on a car after 70-80k miles.
G-Man
Anything else was less than $100.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:39:25 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>>record of tranny failures? 300k on an automatic? name a domestic
>>that'll regularly and reliably do 300k! i know there's issues with
>>modern hondas, but what about the 20-odd years prior to that? and
>>modern failures are gear design problems - nothing to do with excess
>>fluid contamination. buy a ford, then let's talk about the difference
>>being able to change the fluid seems to make...
>
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
>
> J.
>
06-03-2006, 03:00 PM
#68
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
In article <1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
That wouldn't have solved Honda's problems. The tranny problems went
deep into basic design flaws.
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
That wouldn't have solved Honda's problems. The tranny problems went
deep into basic design flaws.
06-03-2006, 03:00 PM
#69
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
In article <1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
That wouldn't have solved Honda's problems. The tranny problems went
deep into basic design flaws.
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
That wouldn't have solved Honda's problems. The tranny problems went
deep into basic design flaws.
06-03-2006, 03:00 PM
#70
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
In article <1ch3825udjvtbvm6l5pmn1st16a37ar2bh@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
That wouldn't have solved Honda's problems. The tranny problems went
deep into basic design flaws.
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> But given some of the misbehaving trannies Honda has been turning out
> the last few years, maybe a drain plug is worth the rather small cost
> and effort involved.
That wouldn't have solved Honda's problems. The tranny problems went
deep into basic design flaws.
06-03-2006, 03:01 PM
#71
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
In article <1283ieejb34qb48@news.supernews.com>,
"G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
> was bad, cost $120 installed.
Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
$120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
at their rate.
"G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
> was bad, cost $120 installed.
Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
$120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
at their rate.
06-03-2006, 03:01 PM
#72
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
In article <1283ieejb34qb48@news.supernews.com>,
"G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
> was bad, cost $120 installed.
Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
$120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
at their rate.
"G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
> was bad, cost $120 installed.
Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
$120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
at their rate.
06-03-2006, 03:01 PM
#73
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
In article <1283ieejb34qb48@news.supernews.com>,
"G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
> was bad, cost $120 installed.
Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
$120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
at their rate.
"G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
> was bad, cost $120 installed.
Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
$120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
at their rate.
06-03-2006, 03:07 PM
#74
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Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
Wrong, they will not replace any electronic component on the SB. Only the
SB for safety reasons. Per Honda USA.
I didn't take it to the dealer either. Cost close to $200.
G-Man
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-F70EB5.15014203062006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1283ieejb34qb48@news.supernews.com>,
> "G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
>> was bad, cost $120 installed.
>
> Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
>
> You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
> $120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
> at their rate.
>
SB for safety reasons. Per Honda USA.
I didn't take it to the dealer either. Cost close to $200.
G-Man
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-F70EB5.15014203062006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1283ieejb34qb48@news.supernews.com>,
> "G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
>> was bad, cost $120 installed.
>
> Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
>
> You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
> $120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
> at their rate.
>
06-03-2006, 03:07 PM
#75
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Posts: n/a
Re: Cost of Transmission Fluid Flush
Wrong, they will not replace any electronic component on the SB. Only the
SB for safety reasons. Per Honda USA.
I didn't take it to the dealer either. Cost close to $200.
G-Man
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-F70EB5.15014203062006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1283ieejb34qb48@news.supernews.com>,
> "G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
>> was bad, cost $120 installed.
>
> Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
>
> You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
> $120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
> at their rate.
>
SB for safety reasons. Per Honda USA.
I didn't take it to the dealer either. Cost close to $200.
G-Man
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-F70EB5.15014203062006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1283ieejb34qb48@news.supernews.com>,
> "G-Man" <shoot.digital@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2001 Accord had to have a seat belt replaced because the SRS sensor in it
>> was bad, cost $120 installed.
>
> Sucker. Honda will replace seat belts for free, anytime.
>
> You just didn't ask. My guess is your dealership pocketed the entire
> $120, and passed the repair off to Honda warranty--who also paid for it
> at their rate.
>
