Grumpy AuContraire

z wrote:
> On May 11, 9:45 am, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In my forty plus years of fiddlin' with cars, I have found Castrol to
>>cut consumption by as much as 50% regardless of the type of car involved
>>in ever case.
>>
>>Just like in politics, it's a case of, "Follow the money."
>>
>>It's just that simple...
>>
>>JT
>>
>>
>>
>>Howard wrote:
>>
>>>Here in the southeast Mobil is the distributor for Honda motor oil. I'm not
>>>sure about the rest of the country. The Honda branded oil is formulated by
>>>Mobil to Honda specs. There's not much better for your car. As for Castrol,
>>>it's a fine motor oil. Probably no better or worse than any other major
>>>motor oil manufacturer, except for some of the premium and/or racing oils or
>>>synthetics.
>>>What Castrol is best for is marketing. There is no oil company that spends
>>>more time and money on marketing and promoting its product than Castrol.
>>>They spend millions on promoting and the result is what many people
>>>including yourself think that it is better and consequently it pays them
>>>back in sales. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't better. But there is not much
>>>difference between equivalent spec Mobil or Castrol or most other major
>>>brands for that matter.
>>>If you want superior, use Amsoil or Royal Purple, but be prepared to pay a
>>>handsome price for something that will make little or no difference in a
>>>well maintained properly oil changed vehicle.
>>>Howard
>>>"Don Enderton" <Ender...@nosuchaddress.duh> wrote in message
>>>news:sOI0i.5504$yM2.3404@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>>>>My local Honda dealer, where I get my oil changed, switched from Castrol
>>>>to Mobil oil. Also, the paperwork and windshield sticker no longer
>>>>indicate the grade or weight (should be API service SJ "energy conserving"
>>>>oil, SAE 5-30 viscosity, for my particular year and model).
>>
>>>>I had an impression from years ago that Castrol was considered a superior
>>>>brand. Is that still true, and if so, why?
>>
>>>>The service manager at Mel Rapton Honda in Sacramento, CA, says one reason
>>>>he switched is price. Mobil is cheaper. And he assures me it meets all
>>>>the factory specs, although I can't verify that because I can't see the
>>>>label for what they put in my car.
>>
>>>>He also says that all Hondas come with Mobil oil in the crankcase from the
>>>>factory, whether in the US or Japan. Is that true?
>>
>>>>OK, so Mobil is cheaper. Assuming the product is marked as meeting the
>>>>factory specs for my car, is it good enough?
>>
>>>>I am not asking here about synthetic oil; please limit responses to
>>>>conventional oil products only.
>>
>>>>And please, I hope to hear informed and expert knowledge here, not
>>>>speculation and guesses. Thank you.
>>
>>>>- Don- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> In the most recent oil test, Consumer Reports famously/infamously
> didn't see any differences. But..... in the test before that, decades
> ago, Castrol came out on top, followed by Valvoline Turbo (the top
> Valvoline at the time). This ranking matched what most of the serious
> car guys I knew ranked them as. I was kind of surprised at the time, i
> assumed the big names like Quaker State must be the best. Har har har,
> I was young then.
>


I think that you have to take Consumer Reports test results with a grain
of salt as they have been exposed with regards to some questionable
testing/rating processes.

Often, it's best to go with your experienced gut...

JT

(Add to the crap list Bosch and Champion sparkplugs)

Grumpy AuContraire

z wrote:
> On May 11, 9:45 am, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In my forty plus years of fiddlin' with cars, I have found Castrol to
>>cut consumption by as much as 50% regardless of the type of car involved
>>in ever case.
>>
>>Just like in politics, it's a case of, "Follow the money."
>>
>>It's just that simple...
>>
>>JT
>>
>>
>>
>>Howard wrote:
>>
>>>Here in the southeast Mobil is the distributor for Honda motor oil. I'm not
>>>sure about the rest of the country. The Honda branded oil is formulated by
>>>Mobil to Honda specs. There's not much better for your car. As for Castrol,
>>>it's a fine motor oil. Probably no better or worse than any other major
>>>motor oil manufacturer, except for some of the premium and/or racing oils or
>>>synthetics.
>>>What Castrol is best for is marketing. There is no oil company that spends
>>>more time and money on marketing and promoting its product than Castrol.
>>>They spend millions on promoting and the result is what many people
>>>including yourself think that it is better and consequently it pays them
>>>back in sales. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't better. But there is not much
>>>difference between equivalent spec Mobil or Castrol or most other major
>>>brands for that matter.
>>>If you want superior, use Amsoil or Royal Purple, but be prepared to pay a
>>>handsome price for something that will make little or no difference in a
>>>well maintained properly oil changed vehicle.
>>>Howard
>>>"Don Enderton" <Ender...@nosuchaddress.duh> wrote in message
>>>news:sOI0i.5504$yM2.3404@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>>>>My local Honda dealer, where I get my oil changed, switched from Castrol
>>>>to Mobil oil. Also, the paperwork and windshield sticker no longer
>>>>indicate the grade or weight (should be API service SJ "energy conserving"
>>>>oil, SAE 5-30 viscosity, for my particular year and model).
>>
>>>>I had an impression from years ago that Castrol was considered a superior
>>>>brand. Is that still true, and if so, why?
>>
>>>>The service manager at Mel Rapton Honda in Sacramento, CA, says one reason
>>>>he switched is price. Mobil is cheaper. And he assures me it meets all
>>>>the factory specs, although I can't verify that because I can't see the
>>>>label for what they put in my car.
>>
>>>>He also says that all Hondas come with Mobil oil in the crankcase from the
>>>>factory, whether in the US or Japan. Is that true?
>>
>>>>OK, so Mobil is cheaper. Assuming the product is marked as meeting the
>>>>factory specs for my car, is it good enough?
>>
>>>>I am not asking here about synthetic oil; please limit responses to
>>>>conventional oil products only.
>>
>>>>And please, I hope to hear informed and expert knowledge here, not
>>>>speculation and guesses. Thank you.
>>
>>>>- Don- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> In the most recent oil test, Consumer Reports famously/infamously
> didn't see any differences. But..... in the test before that, decades
> ago, Castrol came out on top, followed by Valvoline Turbo (the top
> Valvoline at the time). This ranking matched what most of the serious
> car guys I knew ranked them as. I was kind of surprised at the time, i
> assumed the big names like Quaker State must be the best. Har har har,
> I was young then.
>


I think that you have to take Consumer Reports test results with a grain
of salt as they have been exposed with regards to some questionable
testing/rating processes.

Often, it's best to go with your experienced gut...

JT

(Add to the crap list Bosch and Champion sparkplugs)

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