"Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
converter.

I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...

But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

Thanks

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before
the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
> Thanks
>

You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.

Josh

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before
the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
> Thanks
>

You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.

Josh

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
wrote:
>You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
>throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
>that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.

Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.

I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
"de-gunking".

J.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
wrote:
>You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
>throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
>that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.

Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.

I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
"de-gunking".

J.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

JXStern wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
> wrote:
>
>>You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
>>throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
>>that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.
>
>
> Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.
>
> I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
> "de-gunking".

Or "de-dollaring".

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

JXStern wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
> wrote:
>
>>You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
>>throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can do
>>that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.
>
>
> Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.
>
> I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
> "de-gunking".

Or "de-dollaring".

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:09:29 -0400, "Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

It's not a big deal - the only symptom I've seen of this gunked up throttle
body is a sticking accelerator when cold: you press on the pedal and it
feels sticky and when it lets go the car lurches a bit. IME I haven't seen
this on non-EGR cars so I figure that's at least partly responsible for the
gunk build-up.

$179. seems excessive for what's required - remove the rubber intake from
the throttle body, hold the throttle plate open, spray with TB cleaner and
brush with a toothbrush, wipe off with a clean rag. It shouldn't take more
than 30mins - 15mins with practice.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:09:29 -0400, "Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

It's not a big deal - the only symptom I've seen of this gunked up throttle
body is a sticking accelerator when cold: you press on the pedal and it
feels sticky and when it lets go the car lurches a bit. IME I haven't seen
this on non-EGR cars so I figure that's at least partly responsible for the
gunk build-up.

$179. seems excessive for what's required - remove the rubber intake from
the throttle body, hold the throttle plate open, spray with TB cleaner and
brush with a toothbrush, wipe off with a clean rag. It shouldn't take more
than 30mins - 15mins with practice.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Mayday wrote:
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>

EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) Valve sends back some of those
unburnt/not entirely consumed sooty exhaust gases back through your
throttle body for better emissions.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Mayday wrote:
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>

EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) Valve sends back some of those
unburnt/not entirely consumed sooty exhaust gases back through your
throttle body for better emissions.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
: solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
: cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
: converter.
:
: I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before
the
: cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
:
: But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
:
: Thanks
:
I recently had the throttle body of my 2000 Accord cleaned by my local shop.
They told me my sticky throttle was a result of using "cheap gas." Well,
maybe. They charged me $64, and I don't have a sticky throttle anymore. $179
every two years seems excessive, especially since you didn't say you're
actually having any throttle body-related problems. I'd get a quote from a
good independent shop if I were you.

I have decided to use only Chevron gas from now on, as a precaution. We'll
see if it helps. Oddly, the prices at one of the local Chevron stations are
as good as or in some cases better than the prices at the "cheap gas"
stations.

Paul

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
: My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
: solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
: cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
: converter.
:
: I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before
the
: cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
:
: But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
:
: Thanks
:
I recently had the throttle body of my 2000 Accord cleaned by my local shop.
They told me my sticky throttle was a result of using "cheap gas." Well,
maybe. They charged me $64, and I don't have a sticky throttle anymore. $179
every two years seems excessive, especially since you didn't say you're
actually having any throttle body-related problems. I'd get a quote from a
good independent shop if I were you.

I have decided to use only Chevron gas from now on, as a precaution. We'll
see if it helps. Oddly, the prices at one of the local Chevron stations are
as good as or in some cases better than the prices at the "cheap gas"
stations.

Paul

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net says...
>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

It is worth it to your dealer to recommend this worthless service. They
make a hefty profit. A good way to double check this is to look at the
service schedule that came with your car. See if this so called service
is needed.
-------
Alex

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net says...
>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

It is worth it to your dealer to recommend this worthless service. They
make a hefty profit. A good way to double check this is to look at the
service schedule that came with your car. See if this so called service
is needed.
-------
Alex

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:jokkh09voetir12tuhiok9njae4drbnc5a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
> wrote:
> >You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
> >throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can
do
> >that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.
>
> Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.
>
> I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
> "de-gunking".
>
> J.

LOL. When I said "cheap" gas, I guess I meant "lower quality". I buy what
I think is good, "name brand" gas. The dealer says Florida has less
stringent gas requirements than some place like California and hence we get
a lower quality of gas.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:jokkh09voetir12tuhiok9njae4drbnc5a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
> wrote:
> >You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
> >throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can
do
> >that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.
>
> Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.
>
> I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
> "de-gunking".
>
> J.

LOL. When I said "cheap" gas, I guess I meant "lower quality". I buy what
I think is good, "name brand" gas. The dealer says Florida has less
stringent gas requirements than some place like California and hence we get
a lower quality of gas.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:09:29 -0400, "Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net>
wrote:

>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

Absolutely. It is worth every bit of $179 to your dealer.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:09:29 -0400, "Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net>
wrote:

>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

Absolutely. It is worth every bit of $179 to your dealer.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.

Yikes. Stay away.

It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.

Yikes. Stay away.

It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:27:30 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.
>
>Yikes. Stay away.
>
>It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
>and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
>clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
>so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

It may include cleaning the injectors, I believe the Acura dealer
quoted me about that price for the service on a V6 a year or two ago.
I declined the honor ... and the service rep half-apologized for
offering it! Guess I was giving him the skunk-eye.

J.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:27:30 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.
>
>Yikes. Stay away.
>
>It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
>and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
>clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
>so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

It may include cleaning the injectors, I believe the Acura dealer
quoted me about that price for the service on a V6 a year or two ago.
I declined the honor ... and the service rep half-apologized for
offering it! Guess I was giving him the skunk-eye.

J.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
says...
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
to clean it. No problems, and very little work.

Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
says...
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
to clean it. No problems, and very little work.

Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "Mayday"
<mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
> Thanks

I advise you to only buy gas from major brand stations such as Chevron and
Shell. Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
cleaning solution--it cost more than regular gas. I think that it is
called V-10 or something like that. You should also visit a auto supply
store and ask the salesperson at the counter to sell you a bottle of a
special solution that cleans out your entire system. I don't recall the
name brand. You mix it with a full tank of gasoline. If you use a bottle
of that solution in your gasoline about once every two or three
months--it'my guess that you won't have any problems with your thottle
body.

--
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Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "Mayday"
<mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
> Thanks

I advise you to only buy gas from major brand stations such as Chevron and
Shell. Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
cleaning solution--it cost more than regular gas. I think that it is
called V-10 or something like that. You should also visit a auto supply
store and ask the salesperson at the counter to sell you a bottle of a
special solution that cleans out your entire system. I don't recall the
name brand. You mix it with a full tank of gasoline. If you use a bottle
of that solution in your gasoline about once every two or three
months--it'my guess that you won't have any problems with your thottle
body.

--
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Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Jason wrote:
> Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
> cleaning solution

Good for them, but does anyone know of a source for independent
laboratory assessment of such claims? I'd much rather buy a bottle of
additive every few months than pay $.15 more per gallon every time I
fill up.

Abe

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Jason wrote:
> Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
> cleaning solution

Good for them, but does anyone know of a source for independent
laboratory assessment of such claims? I'd much rather buy a bottle of
additive every few months than pay $.15 more per gallon every time I
fill up.

Abe

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Mayday wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.

if theyre snowing you like that, you must be a chick, right? carbon
migration? LOL!
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

sometimes, on some cars, the TB *might* need to be cleaned to get some
varnish and crap out. simple as using a $3 can of throttle body spray
cleaner, and possibly a toothbrush. usually can be felt as the throttle
sticking a bit, or idling a little off even after a tuneup.

but a $179 "soak" every 2 years? sounds like they want to "soak" you.

id bet you anything their "soak" involves a $3 can of spray cleaner, and
$176 in pizza and beer for the service techs that day.
>
> Thanks
>
>

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Mayday wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.

if theyre snowing you like that, you must be a chick, right? carbon
migration? LOL!
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

sometimes, on some cars, the TB *might* need to be cleaned to get some
varnish and crap out. simple as using a $3 can of throttle body spray
cleaner, and possibly a toothbrush. usually can be felt as the throttle
sticking a bit, or idling a little off even after a tuneup.

but a $179 "soak" every 2 years? sounds like they want to "soak" you.

id bet you anything their "soak" involves a $3 can of spray cleaner, and
$176 in pizza and beer for the service techs that day.
>
> Thanks
>
>

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Alex Rodriguez wrote:

> In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net says...
>
>>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>>converter.
>>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
>
> It is worth it to your dealer to recommend this worthless service. They
> make a hefty profit. A good way to double check this is to look at the
> service schedule that came with your car. See if this so called service
> is needed.

yeah. id bring this to the "stealers" attention as well. bring your
owners manual and ask where it is.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

Alex Rodriguez wrote:

> In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net says...
>
>>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>>converter.
>>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
>
> It is worth it to your dealer to recommend this worthless service. They
> make a hefty profit. A good way to double check this is to look at the
> service schedule that came with your car. See if this so called service
> is needed.

yeah. id bring this to the "stealers" attention as well. bring your
owners manual and ask where it is.

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

SoCalMike wrote:
> $176 in pizza and beer for the service techs that day.

LOL!

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

SoCalMike wrote:
> $176 in pizza and beer for the service techs that day.

LOL!

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b854be6aecfb37898a478@news.individual.ne t...
: In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
: says...
: > But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
: >
: A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
: ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
: to clean it. No problems, and very little work.
:
: Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
: but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
: --
: The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Not to say $179 isn't excessive (see my earlier post), but I downloaded the
instructions for doing this job on my '00 Accord and it didn't look like a
trivial process to me. Granted, I am not a trained mechanic. I thought it
was well worth the $64 it cost me to have it done by people who really did
know what they were doing.

BTW, before having this done, I went through three bottles of "fuel system
cleaner" (gasoline additive) over a period of several weeks and it didn't
cure the sticky throttle. Didn't hurt anything, though, as far as I know, so
I chalked it up as an education expense.

Paul

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

"MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b854be6aecfb37898a478@news.individual.ne t...
: In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
: says...
: > But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
: >
: A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
: ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
: to clean it. No problems, and very little work.
:
: Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
: but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
: --
: The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Not to say $179 isn't excessive (see my earlier post), but I downloaded the
instructions for doing this job on my '00 Accord and it didn't look like a
trivial process to me. Granted, I am not a trained mechanic. I thought it
was well worth the $64 it cost me to have it done by people who really did
know what they were doing.

BTW, before having this done, I went through three bottles of "fuel system
cleaner" (gasoline additive) over a period of several weeks and it didn't
cure the sticky throttle. Didn't hurt anything, though, as far as I know, so
I chalked it up as an education expense.

Paul

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

It is certainly a trivial thing to somebody that has experience working on
vehicles.

To the mechanically challenged individuals of the world this could certainly
appear to be overwhelming.

CaptainKrunch


"Paul" <paulDONTSPAMMEmueller@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b854be6aecfb37898a478@news.individual.ne t...
> : In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
> : says...
> : > But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
> : >
> : A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
> : ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
> : to clean it. No problems, and very little work.
> :
> : Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
> : but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
> : --
> : The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
> : http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
>
> Not to say $179 isn't excessive (see my earlier post), but I downloaded
the
> instructions for doing this job on my '00 Accord and it didn't look like a
> trivial process to me. Granted, I am not a trained mechanic. I thought it
> was well worth the $64 it cost me to have it done by people who really did
> know what they were doing.
>
> BTW, before having this done, I went through three bottles of "fuel system
> cleaner" (gasoline additive) over a period of several weeks and it didn't
> cure the sticky throttle. Didn't hurt anything, though, as far as I know,
so
> I chalked it up as an education expense.
>
> Paul
>
>

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

It is certainly a trivial thing to somebody that has experience working on
vehicles.

To the mechanically challenged individuals of the world this could certainly
appear to be overwhelming.

CaptainKrunch


"Paul" <paulDONTSPAMMEmueller@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cF8Tc.15495$nx2.9570@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
>
> "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b854be6aecfb37898a478@news.individual.ne t...
> : In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
> : says...
> : > But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
> : >
> : A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
> : ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
> : to clean it. No problems, and very little work.
> :
> : Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
> : but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
> : --
> : The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
> : http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
>
> Not to say $179 isn't excessive (see my earlier post), but I downloaded
the
> instructions for doing this job on my '00 Accord and it didn't look like a
> trivial process to me. Granted, I am not a trained mechanic. I thought it
> was well worth the $64 it cost me to have it done by people who really did
> know what they were doing.
>
> BTW, before having this done, I went through three bottles of "fuel system
> cleaner" (gasoline additive) over a period of several weeks and it didn't
> cure the sticky throttle. Didn't hurt anything, though, as far as I know,
so
> I chalked it up as an education expense.
>
> Paul
>
>

Re: "Decarbonizing" Honda Odyssey
 

In article <cF8Tc.15495$nx2.9570@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
paulDONTSPAMMEmueller@mindspring.com spouted forth into
alt.autos.honda...
> BTW, before having this done, I went through three bottles of "fuel system
> cleaner" (gasoline additive) over a period of several weeks and it didn't
> cure the sticky throttle. Didn't hurt anything, though, as far as I know, so
> I chalked it up as an education expense.
>
If it is added to the fuel, unfortunatley it wouldn' go anywhere near
the throttle plate, because it is added downstream of there, through the
injectors. Normally they are either in the manifold, or direct into the
head.
--
Carl Robson
(The poster formerly known as Skodapilot)
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com