Mayday

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
> wrote:
> >You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
> >throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can
do
> >that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.
>
> Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.
>
> I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
> "de-gunking".
>
> J.

LOL. When I said "cheap" gas, I guess I meant "lower quality". I buy what
I think is good, "name brand" gas. The dealer says Florida has less
stringent gas requirements than some place like California and hence we get
a lower quality of gas.

Mayday

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:17 GMT, "Josh" <SPAMjdunning@cadd-tech.com>
> wrote:
> >You can do it yourself if you're the least bit handy with an $8 bottle of
> >throttle body cleaner. Oh, and avoid the $200 "injector" service. You can
do
> >that too with a $4 bottle of Techron.
>
> Or just buy better gas for a few weeks, or, y'know, always.
>
> I guess the issue is whether this is "de-carbonizing", or
> "de-gunking".
>
> J.

LOL. When I said "cheap" gas, I guess I meant "lower quality". I buy what
I think is good, "name brand" gas. The dealer says Florida has less
stringent gas requirements than some place like California and hence we get
a lower quality of gas.

Gordon McGrew

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:09:29 -0400, "Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net>
wrote:

>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

Absolutely. It is worth every bit of $179 to your dealer.

Gordon McGrew

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:09:29 -0400, "Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net>
wrote:

>My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
>cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
>converter.
>
>I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
>cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
>But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

Absolutely. It is worth every bit of $179 to your dealer.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.

Yikes. Stay away.

It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Mayday" <mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.

Yikes. Stay away.

It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

JXStern

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:27:30 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.
>
>Yikes. Stay away.
>
>It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
>and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
>clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
>so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

It may include cleaning the injectors, I believe the Acura dealer
quoted me about that price for the service on a V6 a year or two ago.
I declined the honor ... and the service rep half-apologized for
offering it! Guess I was giving him the skunk-eye.

J.

JXStern

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:27:30 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
>> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179.
>
>Yikes. Stay away.
>
>It's true, throttle bodies can get gunked up--and the old style Odyssey
>and its brother the Accord are famous for that. But a throttle body
>clean is nowhere near $179 at any reputable dealer. It's a half hour or
>so labor, maybe a bit more. That's it.

It may include cleaning the injectors, I believe the Acura dealer
quoted me about that price for the service on a V6 a year or two ago.
I declined the honor ... and the service rep half-apologized for
offering it! Guess I was giving him the skunk-eye.

J.

MeatballTurbo

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
says...
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
to clean it. No problems, and very little work.

Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

MeatballTurbo

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, mayday@nospam.net
says...
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
A bottle/can of solvent carb/throttle body cleaner, a toothbrush, what
ever tool is need to pull the intake pipe off, and about 30mins-1hr time
to clean it. No problems, and very little work.

Might run lumpy for a little while when the residues burn with the fuel,
but it will be much cheaper than dealer job.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Jason

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "Mayday"
<mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
> Thanks

I advise you to only buy gas from major brand stations such as Chevron and
Shell. Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
cleaning solution--it cost more than regular gas. I think that it is
called V-10 or something like that. You should also visit a auto supply
store and ask the salesperson at the counter to sell you a bottle of a
special solution that cleans out your entire system. I don't recall the
name brand. You mix it with a full tank of gasoline. If you use a bottle
of that solution in your gasoline about once every two or three
months--it'my guess that you won't have any problems with your thottle
body.

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Jason

In article <7FqSc.65$8I2.59@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "Mayday"
<mayday@nospam.net> wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?
>
> Thanks

I advise you to only buy gas from major brand stations such as Chevron and
Shell. Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
cleaning solution--it cost more than regular gas. I think that it is
called V-10 or something like that. You should also visit a auto supply
store and ask the salesperson at the counter to sell you a bottle of a
special solution that cleans out your entire system. I don't recall the
name brand. You mix it with a full tank of gasoline. If you use a bottle
of that solution in your gasoline about once every two or three
months--it'my guess that you won't have any problems with your thottle
body.

--
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We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.

Abeness

Jason wrote:
> Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
> cleaning solution

Good for them, but does anyone know of a source for independent
laboratory assessment of such claims? I'd much rather buy a bottle of
additive every few months than pay $.15 more per gallon every time I
fill up.

Abe

Abeness

Jason wrote:
> Shell says that they have a new type of gas that contains lots of
> cleaning solution

Good for them, but does anyone know of a source for independent
laboratory assessment of such claims? I'd much rather buy a bottle of
additive every few months than pay $.15 more per gallon every time I
fill up.

Abe

SoCalMike

Mayday wrote:

> My dealer recommends "decarbonizing" the throttle body (by soaking it in
> solvent) of my Odyssey every 2 years for $179. He says it's due to the
> cheap gas and, god forbid, the carbon migrate all the way to the catalytic
> converter.

if theyre snowing you like that, you must be a chick, right? carbon
migration? LOL!
>
> I'm a little confused since I picture the throttle body as being before the
> cylinders/combustion, and the catalytic converter as after...
>
> But, none the less, has anyone heard of this and is it worth it?

sometimes, on some cars, the TB *might* need to be cleaned to get some
varnish and crap out. simple as using a $3 can of throttle body spray
cleaner, and possibly a toothbrush. usually can be felt as the throttle
sticking a bit, or idling a little off even after a tuneup.

but a $179 "soak" every 2 years? sounds like they want to "soak" you.

id bet you anything their "soak" involves a $3 can of spray cleaner, and
$176 in pizza and beer for the service techs that day.
>
> Thanks
>
>