Aron

If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
speced for at $1.60 a bottle?


"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FF5EF5D.68A0DDDC@interbaun.com...
> Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> > news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
> >
> > > frankg wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use
the
> > >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I
> > ever
> > >> >put the stuff in the car.
> > >>
> > >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.
> > >
> > > ===============
> > >
> > > frankg,
> > >
> > > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> > >
> > > Your choice. :-(
> > >
> > > 'Curly'
> > >
> > > ===============
> >
> > Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB
>
> ======================
>
> Kevin,
>
> You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
>
> 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> to an orange.
>
> 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
>
> 'Curly'

Aron

If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
speced for at $1.60 a bottle?


"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FF5EF5D.68A0DDDC@interbaun.com...
> Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> > news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
> >
> > > frankg wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use
the
> > >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I
> > ever
> > >> >put the stuff in the car.
> > >>
> > >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.
> > >
> > > ===============
> > >
> > > frankg,
> > >
> > > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> > >
> > > Your choice. :-(
> > >
> > > 'Curly'
> > >
> > > ===============
> >
> > Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB
>
> ======================
>
> Kevin,
>
> You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
>
> 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> to an orange.
>
> 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
>
> 'Curly'

Aron

If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
speced for at $1.60 a bottle?


"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FF5EF5D.68A0DDDC@interbaun.com...
> Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> > news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
> >
> > > frankg wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use
the
> > >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I
> > ever
> > >> >put the stuff in the car.
> > >>
> > >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.
> > >
> > > ===============
> > >
> > > frankg,
> > >
> > > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> > >
> > > Your choice. :-(
> > >
> > > 'Curly'
> > >
> > > ===============
> >
> > Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB
>
> ======================
>
> Kevin,
>
> You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
>
> 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> to an orange.
>
> 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
>
> 'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links'

> > Kevin,
> >
> > You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
> >
> > 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> > to an orange.
> >
> > 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> > their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> > MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
> >
> > 'Curly'

Aron wrote:
>
> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
> operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
> specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
> labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
> to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
> requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
> bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
> speced for at $1.60 a bottle?
>

=============================
Aron,

Read the FINE manual. It says you can use Dextron III if you HAVE TO,
temporarilly, but you SHOULD use real Honda ATF.

I Said: If you don't really care if it shifts crappy, and you don't care
how long it lasts USE WHATEVER YOU WANT. If your comfort and peace of
mind aren't worth an extra $20, do whatever you like.

Spend the $20 on a tow-rope instead. :-)

'Curly'

======================

'Curly Q. Links'

> > Kevin,
> >
> > You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
> >
> > 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> > to an orange.
> >
> > 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> > their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> > MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
> >
> > 'Curly'

Aron wrote:
>
> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
> operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
> specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
> labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
> to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
> requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
> bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
> speced for at $1.60 a bottle?
>

=============================
Aron,

Read the FINE manual. It says you can use Dextron III if you HAVE TO,
temporarilly, but you SHOULD use real Honda ATF.

I Said: If you don't really care if it shifts crappy, and you don't care
how long it lasts USE WHATEVER YOU WANT. If your comfort and peace of
mind aren't worth an extra $20, do whatever you like.

Spend the $20 on a tow-rope instead. :-)

'Curly'

======================

'Curly Q. Links'

> > Kevin,
> >
> > You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
> >
> > 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> > to an orange.
> >
> > 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> > their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> > MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
> >
> > 'Curly'

Aron wrote:
>
> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
> operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
> specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
> labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
> to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
> requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
> bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
> speced for at $1.60 a bottle?
>

=============================
Aron,

Read the FINE manual. It says you can use Dextron III if you HAVE TO,
temporarilly, but you SHOULD use real Honda ATF.

I Said: If you don't really care if it shifts crappy, and you don't care
how long it lasts USE WHATEVER YOU WANT. If your comfort and peace of
mind aren't worth an extra $20, do whatever you like.

Spend the $20 on a tow-rope instead. :-)

'Curly'

======================

'Curly Q. Links'

> > Kevin,
> >
> > You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
> >
> > 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> > to an orange.
> >
> > 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> > their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> > MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
> >
> > 'Curly'

Aron wrote:
>
> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
> operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
> specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
> labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
> to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
> requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
> bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
> speced for at $1.60 a bottle?
>

=============================
Aron,

Read the FINE manual. It says you can use Dextron III if you HAVE TO,
temporarilly, but you SHOULD use real Honda ATF.

I Said: If you don't really care if it shifts crappy, and you don't care
how long it lasts USE WHATEVER YOU WANT. If your comfort and peace of
mind aren't worth an extra $20, do whatever you like.

Spend the $20 on a tow-rope instead. :-)

'Curly'

======================

Barry S.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:44:14 GMT, "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten>
wrote:

> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
>operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
>specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
>labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
>to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
>requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
>bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
>speced for at $1.60 a bottle?

The Honda fluid probably has some extra friction modifiers that make
it shift a little smoother. If someone were to complain about hard
shifting with Dexron, it's probably the first thing I'd change. That
being said, my Integra can use Honda Premium ATF or Dexron. Says so
in the service manual.. I use Dextron III and drain and fill it semi
frequently. I haven't had any problems and don't find the shifting is
notably harsher.

If Dexron were not acceptable, I don't think Honda would have listed
it as an option in their manuals.

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Barry S.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:44:14 GMT, "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten>
wrote:

> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
>operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
>specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
>labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
>to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
>requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
>bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
>speced for at $1.60 a bottle?

The Honda fluid probably has some extra friction modifiers that make
it shift a little smoother. If someone were to complain about hard
shifting with Dexron, it's probably the first thing I'd change. That
being said, my Integra can use Honda Premium ATF or Dexron. Says so
in the service manual.. I use Dextron III and drain and fill it semi
frequently. I haven't had any problems and don't find the shifting is
notably harsher.

If Dexron were not acceptable, I don't think Honda would have listed
it as an option in their manuals.

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Barry S.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:44:14 GMT, "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten>
wrote:

> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
>operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
>specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
>labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
>to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
>requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
>bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
>speced for at $1.60 a bottle?

The Honda fluid probably has some extra friction modifiers that make
it shift a little smoother. If someone were to complain about hard
shifting with Dexron, it's probably the first thing I'd change. That
being said, my Integra can use Honda Premium ATF or Dexron. Says so
in the service manual.. I use Dextron III and drain and fill it semi
frequently. I haven't had any problems and don't find the shifting is
notably harsher.

If Dexron were not acceptable, I don't think Honda would have listed
it as an option in their manuals.

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Barry S.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:44:14 GMT, "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten>
wrote:

> If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
>operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
>specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
>labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
>to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
>requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
>bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
>speced for at $1.60 a bottle?

The Honda fluid probably has some extra friction modifiers that make
it shift a little smoother. If someone were to complain about hard
shifting with Dexron, it's probably the first thing I'd change. That
being said, my Integra can use Honda Premium ATF or Dexron. Says so
in the service manual.. I use Dextron III and drain and fill it semi
frequently. I haven't had any problems and don't find the shifting is
notably harsher.

If Dexron were not acceptable, I don't think Honda would have listed
it as an option in their manuals.

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