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Elmo P. Shagnasty 12-20-2006 07:05 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
In article <1166577968.565697.293340@80g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
"Paul" <blntitan07@insightbb.com> wrote:

> First, I ask why you needed engine mounts replaced, these generally
> last for the life of the vehicle, and yes 135 for labor for replacing
> engine mounts seems high. This procedure should take a skilled
> mechanic 1 hour at the most


That doesn't matter. It's the book rate that matters. If the book rate
is 1.5 hours, that's about right.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 12-20-2006 07:05 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
In article <1166577968.565697.293340@80g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
"Paul" <blntitan07@insightbb.com> wrote:

> First, I ask why you needed engine mounts replaced, these generally
> last for the life of the vehicle, and yes 135 for labor for replacing
> engine mounts seems high. This procedure should take a skilled
> mechanic 1 hour at the most


That doesn't matter. It's the book rate that matters. If the book rate
is 1.5 hours, that's about right.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 12-20-2006 07:05 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
In article <1166577968.565697.293340@80g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
"Paul" <blntitan07@insightbb.com> wrote:

> First, I ask why you needed engine mounts replaced, these generally
> last for the life of the vehicle, and yes 135 for labor for replacing
> engine mounts seems high. This procedure should take a skilled
> mechanic 1 hour at the most


That doesn't matter. It's the book rate that matters. If the book rate
is 1.5 hours, that's about right.


Woody 12-20-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
First you should understand the vehicle you are talking about. Second you
need to know the location the service is done as labor rates vary widely
depending where it is done. Also we need to know if it was done by a dealer
or not. The front motor mount on the odyssey is electronically controlled
and the engine will rock some when doing the brakes on in/out of gear test
leading the uninformed to thing it is bad. Also the Odyssey mounts are fluid
filled and can spring a leak. If you think these prices are high wait till
the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when. Of coarse the
lawsuit extended the warranty to 109k from 100k.......


"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:rZednTGSUvXkMxXYnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Paul wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> First, I ask why you needed engine mounts replaced, these generally
>>>> last for the life of the vehicle,
>>> that's not true. rubber fatigues and breaks. check the rear trailing
>>> arm bushing on any 1988-2000 civic to see what i mean. then check the
>>> rear motor mount on the same vehicle [if you can see it] and you'll see
>>> identical damage.
>>>

>>
>> Also true, but the car is a 2000, i have seen hondas from the early
>> 90's with no problems.
>>

> it depends on /which/ bushing. go to a junk yard and show me even one
> single civic bushing as described that's not shot to bits. same goes for
> rear motor mounts. only thing about the latter is that they're not as
> easy to see.




Woody 12-20-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
First you should understand the vehicle you are talking about. Second you
need to know the location the service is done as labor rates vary widely
depending where it is done. Also we need to know if it was done by a dealer
or not. The front motor mount on the odyssey is electronically controlled
and the engine will rock some when doing the brakes on in/out of gear test
leading the uninformed to thing it is bad. Also the Odyssey mounts are fluid
filled and can spring a leak. If you think these prices are high wait till
the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when. Of coarse the
lawsuit extended the warranty to 109k from 100k.......


"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:rZednTGSUvXkMxXYnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Paul wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> First, I ask why you needed engine mounts replaced, these generally
>>>> last for the life of the vehicle,
>>> that's not true. rubber fatigues and breaks. check the rear trailing
>>> arm bushing on any 1988-2000 civic to see what i mean. then check the
>>> rear motor mount on the same vehicle [if you can see it] and you'll see
>>> identical damage.
>>>

>>
>> Also true, but the car is a 2000, i have seen hondas from the early
>> 90's with no problems.
>>

> it depends on /which/ bushing. go to a junk yard and show me even one
> single civic bushing as described that's not shot to bits. same goes for
> rear motor mounts. only thing about the latter is that they're not as
> easy to see.




Woody 12-20-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
First you should understand the vehicle you are talking about. Second you
need to know the location the service is done as labor rates vary widely
depending where it is done. Also we need to know if it was done by a dealer
or not. The front motor mount on the odyssey is electronically controlled
and the engine will rock some when doing the brakes on in/out of gear test
leading the uninformed to thing it is bad. Also the Odyssey mounts are fluid
filled and can spring a leak. If you think these prices are high wait till
the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when. Of coarse the
lawsuit extended the warranty to 109k from 100k.......


"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:rZednTGSUvXkMxXYnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Paul wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> First, I ask why you needed engine mounts replaced, these generally
>>>> last for the life of the vehicle,
>>> that's not true. rubber fatigues and breaks. check the rear trailing
>>> arm bushing on any 1988-2000 civic to see what i mean. then check the
>>> rear motor mount on the same vehicle [if you can see it] and you'll see
>>> identical damage.
>>>

>>
>> Also true, but the car is a 2000, i have seen hondas from the early
>> 90's with no problems.
>>

> it depends on /which/ bushing. go to a junk yard and show me even one
> single civic bushing as described that's not shot to bits. same goes for
> rear motor mounts. only thing about the latter is that they're not as
> easy to see.




Woody 12-20-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
First you should understand the vehicle you are talking about. Second you
need to know the location the service is done as labor rates vary widely
depending where it is done. Also we need to know if it was done by a dealer
or not. The front motor mount on the odyssey is electronically controlled
and the engine will rock some when doing the brakes on in/out of gear test
leading the uninformed to thing it is bad. Also the Odyssey mounts are fluid
filled and can spring a leak. If you think these prices are high wait till
the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when. Of coarse the
lawsuit extended the warranty to 109k from 100k.......


"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:rZednTGSUvXkMxXYnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Paul wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> First, I ask why you needed engine mounts replaced, these generally
>>>> last for the life of the vehicle,
>>> that's not true. rubber fatigues and breaks. check the rear trailing
>>> arm bushing on any 1988-2000 civic to see what i mean. then check the
>>> rear motor mount on the same vehicle [if you can see it] and you'll see
>>> identical damage.
>>>

>>
>> Also true, but the car is a 2000, i have seen hondas from the early
>> 90's with no problems.
>>

> it depends on /which/ bushing. go to a junk yard and show me even one
> single civic bushing as described that's not shot to bits. same goes for
> rear motor mounts. only thing about the latter is that they're not as
> easy to see.




High Tech Misfit 12-20-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
Woody wrote:

> If you think these prices are high wait till
> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.


Shut up, troll!!!

At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.

High Tech Misfit 12-20-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
Woody wrote:

> If you think these prices are high wait till
> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.


Shut up, troll!!!

At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.

High Tech Misfit 12-20-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
Woody wrote:

> If you think these prices are high wait till
> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.


Shut up, troll!!!

At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.

High Tech Misfit 12-20-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
Woody wrote:

> If you think these prices are high wait till
> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.


Shut up, troll!!!

At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.

Joe LaVigne 12-20-2006 08:13 PM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:49:31 -0500, High Tech Misfit wrote:

> Woody wrote:
>
>> If you think these prices are high wait till
>> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.

>
> Shut up, troll!!!
>
> At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.


Didn't see Chrysler running to my aid to replace the tranny on my 97
Caravan at 60,000 miles...

Nor the engine at 90,000. And all while properly maintained.

I'll never buy another Chrysler product again, no matter how nice they
look.

Joe LaVigne 12-20-2006 08:13 PM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:49:31 -0500, High Tech Misfit wrote:

> Woody wrote:
>
>> If you think these prices are high wait till
>> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.

>
> Shut up, troll!!!
>
> At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.


Didn't see Chrysler running to my aid to replace the tranny on my 97
Caravan at 60,000 miles...

Nor the engine at 90,000. And all while properly maintained.

I'll never buy another Chrysler product again, no matter how nice they
look.

Joe LaVigne 12-20-2006 08:13 PM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:49:31 -0500, High Tech Misfit wrote:

> Woody wrote:
>
>> If you think these prices are high wait till
>> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.

>
> Shut up, troll!!!
>
> At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.


Didn't see Chrysler running to my aid to replace the tranny on my 97
Caravan at 60,000 miles...

Nor the engine at 90,000. And all while properly maintained.

I'll never buy another Chrysler product again, no matter how nice they
look.

Joe LaVigne 12-20-2006 08:13 PM

Re: Did I Get Hosed On My Odyssey Repairs???
 
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:49:31 -0500, High Tech Misfit wrote:

> Woody wrote:
>
>> If you think these prices are high wait till
>> the transmission goes and on this van it is not if but when.

>
> Shut up, troll!!!
>
> At least Honda did something about it, unlike Crapsler for example.


Didn't see Chrysler running to my aid to replace the tranny on my 97
Caravan at 60,000 miles...

Nor the engine at 90,000. And all while properly maintained.

I'll never buy another Chrysler product again, no matter how nice they
look.


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