Disabling ABS
 

disabling ABS for snowy (not icey) conditions.

When I'm driving on fresh snow, I'd rather be able to lock my tires up
and build up some snow ahead of the tires than to let the ABS pulsate
and cause the tires to slip along on top of the snow.

Would pulling a fuse or unplugging the module work to turn off ABS?
Would this hurt my 96 Accord?

Re: Disabling ABS
 

maybe buy some winter tires instead, or some that have some traction so the
abs can work.

Or failing that just keep driving on your bald tires, and perhaps
disconnnect your break lights while your at it




"joe" <joe@yahoo.org> wrote in message
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> disabling ABS for snowy (not icey) conditions.
>
> When I'm driving on fresh snow, I'd rather be able to lock my tires up
> and build up some snow ahead of the tires than to let the ABS pulsate
> and cause the tires to slip along on top of the snow.
>
> Would pulling a fuse or unplugging the module work to turn off ABS?
> Would this hurt my 96 Accord?

Re: Disabling ABS
 

Sorry to say this, but you are an idiot.

G-Man


"joe" <joe@yahoo.org> wrote in message
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> disabling ABS for snowy (not icey) conditions.
>
> When I'm driving on fresh snow, I'd rather be able to lock my tires up
> and build up some snow ahead of the tires than to let the ABS pulsate
> and cause the tires to slip along on top of the snow.
>
> Would pulling a fuse or unplugging the module work to turn off ABS?
> Would this hurt my 96 Accord?

Re: Disabling ABS
 

Are you really contimplating disconnecting the ABS?
Why would you want to defeat a system that has great benefits?

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

Re: Disabling ABS
 

joe wrote:
> disabling ABS for snowy (not icey) conditions.
>
> When I'm driving on fresh snow, I'd rather be able to lock my tires up
> and build up some snow ahead of the tires than to let the ABS pulsate
> and cause the tires to slip along on top of the snow.
>
> Would pulling a fuse or unplugging the module work to turn off ABS?
> Would this hurt my 96 Accord?

how to disable abs comes up on this group regularly. google is your friend.

Re: Disabling ABS
 

Professor wrote:
> Are you really contimplating disconnecting the ABS?
> Why would you want to defeat a system that has great benefits?
>
> Professor
> www.telstar-electronics.com
>

it has benefits in some circumstances for "average" drivers, but the
situation the op described is /precisely/ the kind of situation where
abs is indeed undesirable. read the owners manual for weasel worded
disclaimers about abs not being ideal for all situations.

Re: Disabling ABS
 

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:16:47 -0800, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:

>Professor wrote:
>> Are you really contimplating disconnecting the ABS?
>> Why would you want to defeat a system that has great benefits?
>>
>> Professor
>> www.telstar-electronics.com
>>
>
>it has benefits in some circumstances for "average" drivers, but the
>situation the op described is /precisely/ the kind of situation where
>abs is indeed undesirable. read the owners manual for weasel worded
>disclaimers about abs not being ideal for all situations.

I am not an average driver. I'm a control freak. I like being in
full control of my vehicle. In addition to wanting to be in full
control of my brakes, I like to be in full control of my transmission.
One of the main criteria I look for when buying a car is that it must
be a manual transmission.

So, If you think I'm an idiot, that's fine. I know that I have the
skill to handle a car in an emergency stop without ABS.

So, does anyone know: Is there an easy way to disable ABS without
causing any damage to the car?

Re: Disabling ABS
 

joe wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:16:47 -0800, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Professor wrote:
>>
>>>Are you really contimplating disconnecting the ABS?
>>>Why would you want to defeat a system that has great benefits?
>>>
>>>Professor
>>>www.telstar-electronics.com
>>>
>>
>>it has benefits in some circumstances for "average" drivers, but the
>>situation the op described is /precisely/ the kind of situation where
>>abs is indeed undesirable. read the owners manual for weasel worded
>>disclaimers about abs not being ideal for all situations.
>
>
> I am not an average driver. I'm a control freak. I like being in
> full control of my vehicle. In addition to wanting to be in full
> control of my brakes, I like to be in full control of my transmission.
> One of the main criteria I look for when buying a car is that it must
> be a manual transmission.

so how does that make you different from the rest of us on this ng???

>
> So, If you think I'm an idiot, that's fine. I know that I have the
> skill to handle a car in an emergency stop without ABS.
>
> So, does anyone know: Is there an easy way to disable ABS without
> causing any damage to the car?

google this group!!! it's been posted here many many times. and check
tegger.com for the faq's.

Re: Disabling ABS
 

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:16:51 -0800, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:

>joe wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:16:47 -0800, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Professor wrote:
>>>
>>>>Are you really contimplating disconnecting the ABS?
>>>>Why would you want to defeat a system that has great benefits?
>>>>
>>>>Professor
>>>>www.telstar-electronics.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>it has benefits in some circumstances for "average" drivers, but the
>>>situation the op described is /precisely/ the kind of situation where
>>>abs is indeed undesirable. read the owners manual for weasel worded
>>>disclaimers about abs not being ideal for all situations.
>>
>>
>> I am not an average driver. I'm a control freak. I like being in
>> full control of my vehicle. In addition to wanting to be in full
>> control of my brakes, I like to be in full control of my transmission.
>> One of the main criteria I look for when buying a car is that it must
>> be a manual transmission.
>
>so how does that make you different from the rest of us on this ng???
>
>>
>> So, If you think I'm an idiot, that's fine. I know that I have the
>> skill to handle a car in an emergency stop without ABS.
>>
>> So, does anyone know: Is there an easy way to disable ABS without
>> causing any damage to the car?
>
>google this group!!! it's been posted here many many times. and check
>tegger.com for the faq's.

Ok! Will do... Thanks Jim!

Re: Disabling ABS
 

No... I don't think you're an idiot. I just think that maybe you may be
misinformed. If you think you have superhero skills... and can
outperform the ABS in an emergency situation... then I question your
rationale.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

Re: Disabling ABS
 

On 13 Jan 2006 09:47:41 -0800, "Professor"
<briangriffey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>No... I don't think you're an idiot. I just think that maybe you may be
>misinformed. If you think you have superhero skills... and can
>outperform the ABS in an emergency situation... then I question your
>rationale.

And, as everyone else who actually knows what they're talking about
has said, ABS is NOT the best thing in all situations. On loose
ground, locking the wheels is preferable to cadence braking (manual or
ABS-automated) as it packs material under the tyres, shortening the
stopping distance. As others have said, read what the manufacturers
say about ABS - even they say its 'not ideal in all circumstances'


>
>Professor
>www.telstar-electronics.com

Re: Disabling ABS
 

It's nice to know that there are so many people responding to this
thread that are much smarter than the automotive engineers that
designed the ABS system. Thanks for all your invaluable knowledge.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

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On 13 Jan 2006 10:53:03 -0800, "Professor"
<briangriffey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>It's nice to know that there are so many people responding to this
>thread that are much smarter than the automotive engineers that
>designed the ABS system. Thanks for all your invaluable knowledge.

niec to see there's people like you who don't read what they ACTUALLY
say either. You take the Cliff-notes route through life, and thats
fine for you, but don't profsres knowledge in any areas when you do
so.

As many have said, including myself, read the caviets for the ABS
systems one of my vehicles says in its owners manual "ABS system may
not provide optimal braking in all conditions"

I have an old rally handbook from the early 70s too, for new drivers
comming into the sport, it says pretty much the same, that on loose
surfaces, locking the wheels is a more effective braking method.

In short though, material packs in front of your wheels, and you dig
yourself in effectively, and rearranges the forces being dissapoated
differently to standard tarmac braking. Its hard to explain without
good deal of diagrams and calculus. Suffice to say that this is
another subject, where high school educations are the basic
generalities, and not the actualities.

>
>Professor
>www.telstar-electronics.com

Re: Disabling ABS
 

"flobert" <nomail@here.NOT> wrote in message
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> On 13 Jan 2006 10:53:03 -0800, "Professor"
> <briangriffey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >It's nice to know that there are so many people responding to this
> >thread that are much smarter than the automotive engineers that
> >designed the ABS system. Thanks for all your invaluable knowledge.
>
> niec to see there's people like you who don't read what they ACTUALLY
> say either. You take the Cliff-notes route through life, and thats
> fine for you, but don't profsres knowledge in any areas when you do
> so.
>
> As many have said, including myself, read the caviets for the ABS
> systems one of my vehicles says in its owners manual "ABS system may
> not provide optimal braking in all conditions"
>
> I have an old rally handbook from the early 70s too, for new drivers
> comming into the sport, it says pretty much the same, that on loose
> surfaces, locking the wheels is a more effective braking method.
>
> In short though, material packs in front of your wheels, and you dig
> yourself in effectively, and rearranges the forces being dissapoated
> differently to standard tarmac braking. Its hard to explain without
> good deal of diagrams and calculus. Suffice to say that this is
> another subject, where high school educations are the basic
> generalities, and not the actualities.
>
> >
> >Professor
> >www.telstar-electronics.com
>

I completely agree with you, and I too took the time to actually read my
instruction manual and noticed that little caveat about ABS. My manual
actually specifically said that in snowy conditions, ABS would INCREASE
stopping distances. Also, in extention of what you were saying, a simple
way of demonstrating how it works is to say that basically, the material
being packed in front of the tires acts in a similar fashion to a door stop.

Sean

Re: Disabling ABS
 

Sounds like the best solution is to have a toggle switch to turn ABS
on and off as appropriate. Does anyone know of an easy way to do this
without damaging the car?