dizzy

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:05:05 -0700, "Jerry Belluomini"
<gabellu@sandia.gov> wrote:

>Some service writers are very qualified to diagnose problems. If you can
>leave your car for a period of time often the service writer will take your
>car to and from work to try and duplicate the problem therefore not having
>to pay a technician to do the same.
>"Caliban" <caliban27@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:Tc71b.1922$Ej6.1429@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...

Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
to anything in it. Just too lazy and selfish, I guess...

By the way, ever consider a blank like between your post and the post
you're responding to?

dizzy

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:05:05 -0700, "Jerry Belluomini"
<gabellu@sandia.gov> wrote:

>Some service writers are very qualified to diagnose problems. If you can
>leave your car for a period of time often the service writer will take your
>car to and from work to try and duplicate the problem therefore not having
>to pay a technician to do the same.
>"Caliban" <caliban27@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:Tc71b.1922$Ej6.1429@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...

Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
to anything in it. Just too lazy and selfish, I guess...

By the way, ever consider a blank like between your post and the post
you're responding to?

Stephen Bigelow

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospan.com> wrote in message
news:vr3dkv42kaf9u7t5e2hjgkkon4u5a10rre@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:05:05 -0700, "Jerry Belluomini"
> <gabellu@sandia.gov> wrote:
>
> >Some service writers are very qualified to diagnose problems. If you can
> >leave your car for a period of time often the service writer will take
your
> >car to and from work to try and duplicate the problem therefore not
having
> >to pay a technician to do the same.
> >"Caliban" <caliban27@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:Tc71b.1922$Ej6.1429@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>
> Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
> to anything in it.

Uh....

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Stephen Bigelow

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospan.com> wrote in message
news:vr3dkv42kaf9u7t5e2hjgkkon4u5a10rre@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:05:05 -0700, "Jerry Belluomini"
> <gabellu@sandia.gov> wrote:
>
> >Some service writers are very qualified to diagnose problems. If you can
> >leave your car for a period of time often the service writer will take
your
> >car to and from work to try and duplicate the problem therefore not
having
> >to pay a technician to do the same.
> >"Caliban" <caliban27@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:Tc71b.1922$Ej6.1429@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>
> Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
> to anything in it.

Uh....

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Ed

"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in
news:vk9ep440kfra56@corp.supernews.com:

> On most Honda's there is a gear change. When you are at a light with
> your foot on the brake, you are in 2nd. Then when you take your foot
> of the brake and press the gas, it shifts to first. I don't know if
> these newer V6 cars do that or not.
>

On a '01 Accord 4-cylinder it always shifts into 1st.

You can easily verify this while the car is stopped by moving the lever to
D3, then to 2. You can feel the transmission shifting to 2nd. When you move
the lever back to D3 and D4, it shifts back to 1st.

Ed

Ed

"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in
news:vk9ep440kfra56@corp.supernews.com:

> On most Honda's there is a gear change. When you are at a light with
> your foot on the brake, you are in 2nd. Then when you take your foot
> of the brake and press the gas, it shifts to first. I don't know if
> these newer V6 cars do that or not.
>

On a '01 Accord 4-cylinder it always shifts into 1st.

You can easily verify this while the car is stopped by moving the lever to
D3, then to 2. You can feel the transmission shifting to 2nd. When you move
the lever back to D3 and D4, it shifts back to 1st.

Ed

dizzy

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:52:53 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
<sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote:

>> Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
>> to anything in it.
>
>Uh....
>
>Pot. Kettle. Black.

Apples and oranges.

dizzy

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:52:53 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
<sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote:

>> Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
>> to anything in it.
>
>Uh....
>
>Pot. Kettle. Black.

Apples and oranges.

E. Meyer

This reminds me of a really dense general when I was in the Army who would
totally ignore the content of briefings and spent all his time looking for
typographical errors because he could not actually understand the point of
anything that was going on.

(top posted intentionally just to irritate you).

On 8/22/03 4:49 PM, in article vr3dkv42kaf9u7t5e2hjgkkon4u5a10rre@4ax.com,
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospan.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:05:05 -0700, "Jerry Belluomini"
> <gabellu@sandia.gov> wrote:
>
>> Some service writers are very qualified to diagnose problems. If you can
>> leave your car for a period of time often the service writer will take your
>> car to and from work to try and duplicate the problem therefore not having
>> to pay a technician to do the same.
>> "Caliban" <caliban27@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:Tc71b.1922$Ej6.1429@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
> Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
> to anything in it. Just too lazy and selfish, I guess...
>
> By the way, ever consider a blank like between your post and the post
> you're responding to?
>

E. Meyer

This reminds me of a really dense general when I was in the Army who would
totally ignore the content of briefings and spent all his time looking for
typographical errors because he could not actually understand the point of
anything that was going on.

(top posted intentionally just to irritate you).

On 8/22/03 4:49 PM, in article vr3dkv42kaf9u7t5e2hjgkkon4u5a10rre@4ax.com,
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospan.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:05:05 -0700, "Jerry Belluomini"
> <gabellu@sandia.gov> wrote:
>
>> Some service writers are very qualified to diagnose problems. If you can
>> leave your car for a period of time often the service writer will take your
>> car to and from work to try and duplicate the problem therefore not having
>> to pay a technician to do the same.
>> "Caliban" <caliban27@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:Tc71b.1922$Ej6.1429@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
> Any reason not to trim Caliban's post? You weren't really responding
> to anything in it. Just too lazy and selfish, I guess...
>
> By the way, ever consider a blank like between your post and the post
> you're responding to?
>

dizzy

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:29:24 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote:

>This reminds me of a really dense general when I was in the Army who would
>totally ignore the content of briefings and spent all his time looking for
>typographical errors because he could not actually understand the point of
>anything that was going on.

It reminds me of drooling morons, so lazy that they won't take the
little extra effort to trim and organize their posts to make them more
easily understandable. Morons so dense that they can't see the
obvious inferiority of posting their response at the top of what they
are responding to. Morons so selfish that they think the time *they*
save by top posting is more important than the time wasted by the
*many* readers who will have to struggle to understand it.

dizzy

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:29:24 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote:

>This reminds me of a really dense general when I was in the Army who would
>totally ignore the content of briefings and spent all his time looking for
>typographical errors because he could not actually understand the point of
>anything that was going on.

It reminds me of drooling morons, so lazy that they won't take the
little extra effort to trim and organize their posts to make them more
easily understandable. Morons so dense that they can't see the
obvious inferiority of posting their response at the top of what they
are responding to. Morons so selfish that they think the time *they*
save by top posting is more important than the time wasted by the
*many* readers who will have to struggle to understand it.

E. Meyer

On 8/23/03 6:47 AM, in article vfkekvc1i64thgsvofsujp6vr7gplmgjr0@4ax.com,
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospan.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:29:24 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>> This reminds me of a really dense general when I was in the Army who would
>> totally ignore the content of briefings and spent all his time looking for
>> typographical errors because he could not actually understand the point of
>> anything that was going on.
>
> It reminds me of drooling morons, so lazy that they won't take the
> little extra effort to trim and organize their posts to make them more
> easily understandable. Morons so dense that they can't see the
> obvious inferiority of posting their response at the top of what they
> are responding to. Morons so selfish that they think the time *they*
> save by top posting is more important than the time wasted by the
> *many* readers who will have to struggle to understand it.
>
This might have made some sense fifteen years ago when CompuServe printed
everything out on the heat sensitive paper and you had to wait for it.
There hasn't been a browser made since Windows 95 came out that doesn't pop
up the postings from the top (not the bottom).

If the thread is being bottom posted, continue to bottom post. If it is
being top posted, continue to top post. If it makes sense to answer in-line
with comments immediately following the questions, then do that.

The only "drooling moron" activity I see going on here is from the "Dizzy"
bozos who hijack a thread to scream about form while blocking any chance
anyone else has of getting a substantive answer to the problem that was
posted.

I stand by my earlier analogy - if you can't contribute useful information
to the problem being discussed, stay out of it and quit wasting everybody
else's time and bandwidth.

E. Meyer

On 8/23/03 6:47 AM, in article vfkekvc1i64thgsvofsujp6vr7gplmgjr0@4ax.com,
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospan.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:29:24 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyer@ieee.org> wrote:
>
>> This reminds me of a really dense general when I was in the Army who would
>> totally ignore the content of briefings and spent all his time looking for
>> typographical errors because he could not actually understand the point of
>> anything that was going on.
>
> It reminds me of drooling morons, so lazy that they won't take the
> little extra effort to trim and organize their posts to make them more
> easily understandable. Morons so dense that they can't see the
> obvious inferiority of posting their response at the top of what they
> are responding to. Morons so selfish that they think the time *they*
> save by top posting is more important than the time wasted by the
> *many* readers who will have to struggle to understand it.
>
This might have made some sense fifteen years ago when CompuServe printed
everything out on the heat sensitive paper and you had to wait for it.
There hasn't been a browser made since Windows 95 came out that doesn't pop
up the postings from the top (not the bottom).

If the thread is being bottom posted, continue to bottom post. If it is
being top posted, continue to top post. If it makes sense to answer in-line
with comments immediately following the questions, then do that.

The only "drooling moron" activity I see going on here is from the "Dizzy"
bozos who hijack a thread to scream about form while blocking any chance
anyone else has of getting a substantive answer to the problem that was
posted.

I stand by my earlier analogy - if you can't contribute useful information
to the problem being discussed, stay out of it and quit wasting everybody
else's time and bandwidth.

TomP

Thomas Hern wrote:

> In article <6248kv0ab1i4q5id453ghptrc31n2mkg4v@4ax.com>, Steve Lee
> <hate@spam.com> wrote:
>
> ...>
> > When I was at the dealer to get my car serviced, I mentioned it to the
> > advisor and was given the usual "if we can't duplicate it, we won't
> > diagnose it" line, so I passed up on the testdrive with a technician.
> > I called up another dealer in town and was given the same line as
> > well.
> >
>
> I really hate this response, which is all too common these days.
> Irresponsible in my mind. They must teach this in tech school.

Sounds reasonable to me. Did you offer to pay for the diagnostic time
up front?


> Had
> District Service Manager say the same thing. Is this Honda policy?

Policy or not, who do you propose, pay for the time spent trying to
diagnose a "problem" that can not be duplicated?


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