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the loner 06-09-2006 07:55 PM

Emeregncy brake light
 
The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
Thanks
loner



the loner 06-09-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
> Thanks
> loner


Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
loner
>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
> Thanks
> loner


Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
loner
>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
> Thanks
> loner


Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
loner
>
>




Elle 06-09-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize
the "brake warning light." Why don't you go under the hood
and check the level yourself? The reservoir is near the
firewall (= rear of the engine compartment), on the driver's
side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap is embossed with
words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other
things. It has max and min lines marked on it.

Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same
year Civic CRX:
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on,
>> even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new master
>> cylinder was put in last year.
>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake
>> fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it to the
>> mechanic?
>> Thanks
>> loner

>
> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it
> matters
> loner
>>
>>

>
>




Elle 06-09-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize
the "brake warning light." Why don't you go under the hood
and check the level yourself? The reservoir is near the
firewall (= rear of the engine compartment), on the driver's
side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap is embossed with
words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other
things. It has max and min lines marked on it.

Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same
year Civic CRX:
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on,
>> even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new master
>> cylinder was put in last year.
>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake
>> fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it to the
>> mechanic?
>> Thanks
>> loner

>
> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it
> matters
> loner
>>
>>

>
>




Elle 06-09-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize
the "brake warning light." Why don't you go under the hood
and check the level yourself? The reservoir is near the
firewall (= rear of the engine compartment), on the driver's
side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap is embossed with
words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other
things. It has max and min lines marked on it.

Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same
year Civic CRX:
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on,
>> even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new master
>> cylinder was put in last year.
>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake
>> fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it to the
>> mechanic?
>> Thanks
>> loner

>
> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it
> matters
> loner
>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably obvious,
I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if I get stuck,
I'll be back!
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap
> is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other
> things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>
> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
> CRX:
> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
>>> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
>>> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>> Thanks
>>> loner

>>
>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>> loner
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably obvious,
I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if I get stuck,
I'll be back!
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap
> is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other
> things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>
> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
> CRX:
> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
>>> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
>>> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>> Thanks
>>> loner

>>
>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>> loner
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably obvious,
I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if I get stuck,
I'll be back!
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap
> is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other
> things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>
> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
> CRX:
> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
>>> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
>>> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>> Thanks
>>> loner

>>
>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>> loner
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Jim Yanik 06-09-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:

> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
> Thanks
> loner
>
>


Maybe a stuck switch?
(Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-09-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:

> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
> Thanks
> loner
>
>


Maybe a stuck switch?
(Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-09-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:

> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
> Thanks
> loner
>
>


Maybe a stuck switch?
(Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Elle 06-09-2006 09:09 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)

Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is
> probably obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking
> the time to answer-if I get stuck, I'll be back!
> loner
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> message
> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will
>> energize the "brake warning light." Why don't you go
>> under the hood and check the level yourself? The
>> reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC
>> the reservoir cap is embossed with words like 'Use only
>> DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other things. It has max
>> and min lines marked on it.
>>
>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the
>> same year Civic CRX:
>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on,
>>>> even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new master
>>>> cylinder was put in last year.
>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake
>>>> fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it to the
>>>> mechanic?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> loner
>>>
>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it
>>> matters
>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Elle 06-09-2006 09:09 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)

Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is
> probably obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking
> the time to answer-if I get stuck, I'll be back!
> loner
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> message
> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will
>> energize the "brake warning light." Why don't you go
>> under the hood and check the level yourself? The
>> reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC
>> the reservoir cap is embossed with words like 'Use only
>> DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other things. It has max
>> and min lines marked on it.
>>
>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the
>> same year Civic CRX:
>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on,
>>>> even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new master
>>>> cylinder was put in last year.
>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake
>>>> fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it to the
>>>> mechanic?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> loner
>>>
>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it
>>> matters
>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Elle 06-09-2006 09:09 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)

Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is
> probably obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking
> the time to answer-if I get stuck, I'll be back!
> loner
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> message
> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will
>> energize the "brake warning light." Why don't you go
>> under the hood and check the level yourself? The
>> reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC
>> the reservoir cap is embossed with words like 'Use only
>> DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other things. It has max
>> and min lines marked on it.
>>
>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the
>> same year Civic CRX:
>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on,
>>>> even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new master
>>>> cylinder was put in last year.
>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake
>>>> fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it to the
>>>> mechanic?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> loner
>>>
>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it
>>> matters
>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 09:15 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a *1989*
Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
Thanks again Elle!
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>
> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if I
>> get stuck, I'll be back!
>> loner
>>
>>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap
>>> is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among
>>> other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>
>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>> CRX:
>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 09:15 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a *1989*
Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
Thanks again Elle!
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>
> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if I
>> get stuck, I'll be back!
>> loner
>>
>>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap
>>> is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among
>>> other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>
>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>> CRX:
>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 09:15 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a *1989*
Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
Thanks again Elle!
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>
> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if I
>> get stuck, I'll be back!
>> loner
>>
>>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir cap
>>> is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among
>>> other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>
>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>> CRX:
>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 09:19 PM

Re: Emergency brake light
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns97DDD53CFB54Fjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
> news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
>> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
>> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>> Thanks
>> loner
>>
>>

>
> Maybe a stuck switch?
> (Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
> If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


Yes, Jim, I did read something about a switch, also about something under
the pedal--where should I look to check those things? (BTW, thanks about the
fuse)
loner



the loner 06-09-2006 09:19 PM

Re: Emergency brake light
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns97DDD53CFB54Fjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
> news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
>> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
>> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>> Thanks
>> loner
>>
>>

>
> Maybe a stuck switch?
> (Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
> If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


Yes, Jim, I did read something about a switch, also about something under
the pedal--where should I look to check those things? (BTW, thanks about the
fuse)
loner



the loner 06-09-2006 09:19 PM

Re: Emergency brake light
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns97DDD53CFB54Fjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
> news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought the
>> emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level. Any
>> other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>> Thanks
>> loner
>>
>>

>
> Maybe a stuck switch?
> (Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
> If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


Yes, Jim, I did read something about a switch, also about something under
the pedal--where should I look to check those things? (BTW, thanks about the
fuse)
loner



Elle 06-09-2006 09:20 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology
newbies, too) posting here driving Honda cars built c.

1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to
250k, at least. Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus
I'm having too much "fun" maintaining it.

No problem, re the help.

Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives
and maybe help someone else.

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years
> (remember, it's a *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new
> hobby....or even a career!!!
> Thanks again Elle!
> loner
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> message
> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>
>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As
>>> is probably obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for
>>> taking the time to answer-if I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>> loner
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will
>>>> energize the "brake warning light." Why don't you go
>>>> under the hood and check the level yourself? The
>>>> reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC
>>>> the reservoir cap is embossed with words like 'Use only
>>>> DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other things. It has max
>>>> and min lines marked on it.
>>>>
>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the
>>>> same year Civic CRX:
>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays
>>>>>> on, even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new
>>>>>> master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low
>>>>>> brake fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it
>>>>>> to the mechanic?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if
>>>>> it matters
>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Elle 06-09-2006 09:20 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology
newbies, too) posting here driving Honda cars built c.

1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to
250k, at least. Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus
I'm having too much "fun" maintaining it.

No problem, re the help.

Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives
and maybe help someone else.

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years
> (remember, it's a *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new
> hobby....or even a career!!!
> Thanks again Elle!
> loner
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> message
> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>
>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As
>>> is probably obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for
>>> taking the time to answer-if I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>> loner
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will
>>>> energize the "brake warning light." Why don't you go
>>>> under the hood and check the level yourself? The
>>>> reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC
>>>> the reservoir cap is embossed with words like 'Use only
>>>> DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other things. It has max
>>>> and min lines marked on it.
>>>>
>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the
>>>> same year Civic CRX:
>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays
>>>>>> on, even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new
>>>>>> master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low
>>>>>> brake fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it
>>>>>> to the mechanic?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if
>>>>> it matters
>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Elle 06-09-2006 09:20 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology
newbies, too) posting here driving Honda cars built c.

1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to
250k, at least. Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus
I'm having too much "fun" maintaining it.

No problem, re the help.

Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives
and maybe help someone else.

"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years
> (remember, it's a *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new
> hobby....or even a career!!!
> Thanks again Elle!
> loner
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> message
> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>
>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As
>>> is probably obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for
>>> taking the time to answer-if I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>> loner
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will
>>>> energize the "brake warning light." Why don't you go
>>>> under the hood and check the level yourself? The
>>>> reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC
>>>> the reservoir cap is embossed with words like 'Use only
>>>> DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,' among other things. It has max
>>>> and min lines marked on it.
>>>>
>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the
>>>> same year Civic CRX:
>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays
>>>>>> on, even thought the emerg. brake is off. A new
>>>>>> master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low
>>>>>> brake fluid level. Any other ideas before I take it
>>>>>> to the mechanic?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if
>>>>> it matters
>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 09:26 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But I
believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!
Take care
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies, too)
> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>
> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
> maintaining it.
>
> No problem, re the help.
>
> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
> help someone else.
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>> Thanks again Elle!
>> loner
>>
>>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>
>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if
>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>>>> CRX:
>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 09:26 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But I
believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!
Take care
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies, too)
> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>
> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
> maintaining it.
>
> No problem, re the help.
>
> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
> help someone else.
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>> Thanks again Elle!
>> loner
>>
>>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>
>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if
>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>>>> CRX:
>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




the loner 06-09-2006 09:26 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But I
believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!
Take care
loner


"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies, too)
> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>
> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
> maintaining it.
>
> No problem, re the help.
>
> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
> help someone else.
>
> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>> Thanks again Elle!
>> loner
>>
>>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>
>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if
>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>>>> CRX:
>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




flobert 06-09-2006 10:03 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:38 -0700, "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
>don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But I
>believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!


Yours should make it. my 88's on over 220,000 miles, and its barely
been driven in the last year (in fact, its not been taxed or insured
since december)

Right now, it's in need of a new half axel (wife kept putting off
getting a CV joint fixed) but other than that its all good.

>Take care
> loner
>
>
>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies, too)
>> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>>
>> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
>> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
>> maintaining it.
>>
>> No problem, re the help.
>>
>> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
>> help someone else.
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>>> Thanks again Elle!
>>> loner
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>>
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if
>>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>>>>> CRX:
>>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



flobert 06-09-2006 10:03 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:38 -0700, "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
>don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But I
>believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!


Yours should make it. my 88's on over 220,000 miles, and its barely
been driven in the last year (in fact, its not been taxed or insured
since december)

Right now, it's in need of a new half axel (wife kept putting off
getting a CV joint fixed) but other than that its all good.

>Take care
> loner
>
>
>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies, too)
>> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>>
>> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
>> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
>> maintaining it.
>>
>> No problem, re the help.
>>
>> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
>> help someone else.
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>>> Thanks again Elle!
>>> loner
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>>
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if
>>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>>>>> CRX:
>>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



flobert 06-09-2006 10:03 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:38 -0700, "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
>don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But I
>believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!


Yours should make it. my 88's on over 220,000 miles, and its barely
been driven in the last year (in fact, its not been taxed or insured
since december)

Right now, it's in need of a new half axel (wife kept putting off
getting a CV joint fixed) but other than that its all good.

>Take care
> loner
>
>
>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies, too)
>> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>>
>> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
>> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
>> maintaining it.
>>
>> No problem, re the help.
>>
>> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
>> help someone else.
>>
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>>> Thanks again Elle!
>>> loner
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>>
>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to answer-if
>>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>>> loner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the "brake
>>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year Civic
>>>>>> CRX:
>>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



the loner 06-09-2006 10:12 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 

"flobert" <nomail@here.NOT> wrote in message
news:61ak82112ncisqbkfr0tvbpf7esmo8m7ak@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:38 -0700, "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
>>don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But
>>I
>>believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!

>
> Yours should make it. my 88's on over 220,000 miles, and its barely
> been driven in the last year (in fact, its not been taxed or insured
> since december)
>
> Right now, it's in need of a new half axel (wife kept putting off
> getting a CV joint fixed) but other than that its all good.


Yup, I've always kept up the maintenance, maybe a couple of big ticket items
here & there, and it's been fine. The body & interior--that's another story,
even though I got it painted, but that's my own laziness there
loner



>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>>> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies,
>>> too)
>>> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>>>
>>> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
>>> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
>>> maintaining it.
>>>
>>> No problem, re the help.
>>>
>>> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
>>> help someone else.
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>>>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>>>> Thanks again Elle!
>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>>>
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to
>>>>>> answer-if
>>>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the
>>>>>>> "brake
>>>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year
>>>>>>> Civic
>>>>>>> CRX:
>>>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last
>>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid
>>>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>




the loner 06-09-2006 10:12 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 

"flobert" <nomail@here.NOT> wrote in message
news:61ak82112ncisqbkfr0tvbpf7esmo8m7ak@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:38 -0700, "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
>>don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But
>>I
>>believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!

>
> Yours should make it. my 88's on over 220,000 miles, and its barely
> been driven in the last year (in fact, its not been taxed or insured
> since december)
>
> Right now, it's in need of a new half axel (wife kept putting off
> getting a CV joint fixed) but other than that its all good.


Yup, I've always kept up the maintenance, maybe a couple of big ticket items
here & there, and it's been fine. The body & interior--that's another story,
even though I got it painted, but that's my own laziness there
loner



>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>>> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies,
>>> too)
>>> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>>>
>>> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
>>> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
>>> maintaining it.
>>>
>>> No problem, re the help.
>>>
>>> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
>>> help someone else.
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>>>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>>>> Thanks again Elle!
>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>>>
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to
>>>>>> answer-if
>>>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the
>>>>>>> "brake
>>>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year
>>>>>>> Civic
>>>>>>> CRX:
>>>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last
>>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid
>>>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>




the loner 06-09-2006 10:12 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 

"flobert" <nomail@here.NOT> wrote in message
news:61ak82112ncisqbkfr0tvbpf7esmo8m7ak@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:26:38 -0700, "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I think I will check in here...and my 1989 has only 62,000+ miles!!! (i
>>don't leave the house much-long boring medical story). 177 k wheww! But
>>I
>>believe you'll get to 250--a friend with n Accord got there--twice!!

>
> Yours should make it. my 88's on over 220,000 miles, and its barely
> been driven in the last year (in fact, its not been taxed or insured
> since december)
>
> Right now, it's in need of a new half axel (wife kept putting off
> getting a CV joint fixed) but other than that its all good.


Yup, I've always kept up the maintenance, maybe a couple of big ticket items
here & there, and it's been fine. The body & interior--that's another story,
even though I got it painted, but that's my own laziness there
loner



>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>>> You should lurk and see all the folks (many auto technology newbies,
>>> too)
>>> posting here driving Honda cars built c.
>>>
>>> 1989. I own a 91 Civic, 177k miles. I hope to take it to 250k, at least.
>>> Can't give up a car that gets 40+ mpg. Plus I'm having too much "fun"
>>> maintaining it.
>>>
>>> No problem, re the help.
>>>
>>> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives and maybe
>>> help someone else.
>>>
>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>> New knowledge--Absolutely---after all these years (remember, it's a
>>>> *1989* Honda!!), maybe I'll start a new hobby....or even a career!!!
>>>> Thanks again Elle!
>>>> loner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9Zoig.11222$921.9849@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>>> Without people getting stuck, this group is nothing. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hang in there, and learn something new. It's empowering.
>>>>>
>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>> Hey Elle, thanks so much--especially where to look. As is probably
>>>>>> obvious, I ain't no mechanic !! Thanks for taking the time to
>>>>>> answer-if
>>>>>> I get stuck, I'll be back!
>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Mroig.3929$lp.1582@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>>>>>> You are correct that a low brake fluid level will energize the
>>>>>>> "brake
>>>>>>> warning light." Why don't you go under the hood and check the level
>>>>>>> yourself? The reservoir is near the firewall (= rear of the engine
>>>>>>> compartment), on the driver's side, near the top. IIRC the reservoir
>>>>>>> cap is embossed with words like 'Use only DOT 3 or 4 Brake Fluid,'
>>>>>>> among other things. It has max and min lines marked on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's more info from a factory service manual for the same year
>>>>>>> Civic
>>>>>>> CRX:
>>>>>>> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...H200/16-92.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last
>>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid
>>>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, neglected to say 1989 Honda Civic DX sedan, if it matters
>>>>>>>> loner
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>




Jim Yanik 06-09-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Emergency brake light
 
"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:bvydnffpsNy9gxfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com:

>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns97DDD53CFB54Fjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
>> news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>> Thanks
>>> loner
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Maybe a stuck switch?
>> (Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
>> If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net

>
> Yes, Jim, I did read something about a switch, also about something
> under the pedal--where should I look to check those things? (BTW,
> thanks about the fuse)
> loner
>
>
>


I suspect the emergency brake switch would be mounted on or about the
emergency brake lever.
(in the center console?)

got a service manual for your model?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-09-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Emergency brake light
 
"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:bvydnffpsNy9gxfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com:

>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns97DDD53CFB54Fjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
>> news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>> Thanks
>>> loner
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Maybe a stuck switch?
>> (Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
>> If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net

>
> Yes, Jim, I did read something about a switch, also about something
> under the pedal--where should I look to check those things? (BTW,
> thanks about the fuse)
> loner
>
>
>


I suspect the emergency brake switch would be mounted on or about the
emergency brake lever.
(in the center console?)

got a service manual for your model?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-09-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Emergency brake light
 
"the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:bvydnffpsNy9gxfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com:

>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns97DDD53CFB54Fjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
>> "the loner" <theloner@nowhere.com> wrote in
>> news:RtidncasMNEblxfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> The emergency brake light warning on the dash stays on, even thought
>>> the emerg. brake is off. A new master cylinder was put in last year.
>>> I've thought of either a blown light fuse, or low brake fluid level.
>>> Any other ideas before I take it to the mechanic?
>>> Thanks
>>> loner
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Maybe a stuck switch?
>> (Detects when the Emerg.Brake lever is pulled)
>> If the fuse were blown,the light would NOT come on.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net

>
> Yes, Jim, I did read something about a switch, also about something
> under the pedal--where should I look to check those things? (BTW,
> thanks about the fuse)
> loner
>
>
>


I suspect the emergency brake switch would be mounted on or about the
emergency brake lever.
(in the center console?)

got a service manual for your model?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

TeGGeR® 06-09-2006 11:07 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net:


>
> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives
> and maybe help someone else.




The point of it all, really. To perhaps be overly dramatic about it, you're
helping the world, in however small a way...



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 06-09-2006 11:07 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net:


>
> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives
> and maybe help someone else.




The point of it all, really. To perhaps be overly dramatic about it, you're
helping the world, in however small a way...



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 06-09-2006 11:07 PM

Re: Emeregncy brake light
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:X7pig.11225$921.6413@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net:


>
> Updates are welcome. Your experience will go in the archives
> and maybe help someone else.




The point of it all, really. To perhaps be overly dramatic about it, you're
helping the world, in however small a way...



--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


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