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Larry 10-21-2004 08:44 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering a
discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.


"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message
news:LtidnaU7H-TQWOrcRVn-ig@speakeasy.net...
>
> Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>> In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>>
>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>>as DRLs?

>>
>>
>> Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
>> you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
>> drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.

>
>
> Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.




RWM 10-21-2004 09:00 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Be that generalization as it may, my carrier (not AAA) does, and is now
doing so on our other car.

Larry wrote:

>To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering a
>discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
>the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.
>
>
>"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message
>news:LtidnaU7H-TQWOrcRVn-ig@speakeasy.net...
>
>
>>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>>>as DRLs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
>>>you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
>>>drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.
>>>
>>>

>>Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.
>>
>>


RWM 10-21-2004 09:00 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Be that generalization as it may, my carrier (not AAA) does, and is now
doing so on our other car.

Larry wrote:

>To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering a
>discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
>the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.
>
>
>"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message
>news:LtidnaU7H-TQWOrcRVn-ig@speakeasy.net...
>
>
>>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>>>as DRLs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
>>>you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
>>>drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.
>>>
>>>

>>Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.
>>
>>


Abeness 10-21-2004 09:08 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Larry wrote:
> To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering a
> discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
> the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.


GEICO does, and they're a pretty big operation here in the US.

Abeness 10-21-2004 09:08 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Larry wrote:
> To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering a
> discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
> the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.


GEICO does, and they're a pretty big operation here in the US.

RWM 10-21-2004 09:08 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 


Timothy J. Lee wrote:

>In article <LtidnaU7H-TQWOrcRVn-ig@speakeasy.net>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>>>as DRLs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
>>>you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
>>>drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.
>>>
>>>

>>Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.
>>
>>

>
>If you are intent on having DRLs for the insurance discount, use the low
>beams, not the high beams. You really don't want to have the DRLs on in
>low light conditions (e.g. overcast) blinding someone with too much glare,
>causing him/her to crash into you.
>
>And don't use the turn signals as DRLs either, unless you want to increase
>the chance of giving false signals.
>
>


While I appreciate your views and concerns, NHTSA and FMVSS 108 allow
for numerous DRL configurations, including the use of turn signals (most
GM and many Chrysler), high beams at reduced intensity, low beams, and
in some cases, auxiliary lights.

I wish NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare produced by
poorly designed headlight systems, beam cutoffs, aiming and
inappropriate use of fog lights and "kewl" overwattage
bulbs/inserts/capsules.

RWM 10-21-2004 09:08 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 


Timothy J. Lee wrote:

>In article <LtidnaU7H-TQWOrcRVn-ig@speakeasy.net>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>>>as DRLs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
>>>you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
>>>drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.
>>>
>>>

>>Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.
>>
>>

>
>If you are intent on having DRLs for the insurance discount, use the low
>beams, not the high beams. You really don't want to have the DRLs on in
>low light conditions (e.g. overcast) blinding someone with too much glare,
>causing him/her to crash into you.
>
>And don't use the turn signals as DRLs either, unless you want to increase
>the chance of giving false signals.
>
>


While I appreciate your views and concerns, NHTSA and FMVSS 108 allow
for numerous DRL configurations, including the use of turn signals (most
GM and many Chrysler), high beams at reduced intensity, low beams, and
in some cases, auxiliary lights.

I wish NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare produced by
poorly designed headlight systems, beam cutoffs, aiming and
inappropriate use of fog lights and "kewl" overwattage
bulbs/inserts/capsules.

Alex Rodriguez 10-22-2004 12:38 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
In article <I76dnY9QRITywOXcRVn-vA@rcn.net>, news@nada.x says...
>Larry wrote:
>> To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering a
>> discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
>> the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.

>
>GEICO does, and they're a pretty big operation here in the US.


I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
is another reason to add to the list.
--------------
Alex




Alex Rodriguez 10-22-2004 12:38 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
In article <I76dnY9QRITywOXcRVn-vA@rcn.net>, news@nada.x says...
>Larry wrote:
>> To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering a
>> discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
>> the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.

>
>GEICO does, and they're a pretty big operation here in the US.


I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
is another reason to add to the list.
--------------
Alex




Brian Smith 10-22-2004 08:55 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>
> I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
> is another reason to add to the list.


What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
vehicles, and their direction of travel?

--
Brian

Ever stop to think... and forget to start again?



Brian Smith 10-22-2004 08:55 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>
> I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
> is another reason to add to the list.


What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
vehicles, and their direction of travel?

--
Brian

Ever stop to think... and forget to start again?



Timothy J. Lee 10-22-2004 10:25 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
In article <41785DA7.5060104@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>>If you are intent on having DRLs for the insurance discount, use the low
>>beams, not the high beams. You really don't want to have the DRLs on in
>>low light conditions (e.g. overcast) blinding someone with too much glare,
>>causing him/her to crash into you.
>>
>>And don't use the turn signals as DRLs either, unless you want to increase
>>the chance of giving false signals.

>
>While I appreciate your views and concerns, NHTSA and FMVSS 108 allow
>for numerous DRL configurations, including the use of turn signals (most
>GM and many Chrysler), high beams at reduced intensity, low beams, and
>in some cases, auxiliary lights.


Simply because NHTSA / FMVSS 108 allows really bad DRL configurations
does not mean that you have to install a really bad DRL configuration
in your car. Since it allows better DRL configurations (low beams or
white auxiliary lamps), it would make sense to use one of these better
configurations if you want to install DRL on your vehicle.

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy J. Lee
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome.
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.

Timothy J. Lee 10-22-2004 10:25 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
In article <41785DA7.5060104@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>>If you are intent on having DRLs for the insurance discount, use the low
>>beams, not the high beams. You really don't want to have the DRLs on in
>>low light conditions (e.g. overcast) blinding someone with too much glare,
>>causing him/her to crash into you.
>>
>>And don't use the turn signals as DRLs either, unless you want to increase
>>the chance of giving false signals.

>
>While I appreciate your views and concerns, NHTSA and FMVSS 108 allow
>for numerous DRL configurations, including the use of turn signals (most
>GM and many Chrysler), high beams at reduced intensity, low beams, and
>in some cases, auxiliary lights.


Simply because NHTSA / FMVSS 108 allows really bad DRL configurations
does not mean that you have to install a really bad DRL configuration
in your car. Since it allows better DRL configurations (low beams or
white auxiliary lamps), it would make sense to use one of these better
configurations if you want to install DRL on your vehicle.

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy J. Lee
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome.
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.

Alex Rodriguez 10-22-2004 11:27 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
In article <Fq7ed.28448$cr4.15781@edtnps84>, Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada says...
>"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
>news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>
>> I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
>> is another reason to add to the list.

>
>What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
>vehicles, and their direction of travel?


When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the road.
--------------
Alex


Alex Rodriguez 10-22-2004 11:27 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
In article <Fq7ed.28448$cr4.15781@edtnps84>, Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada says...
>"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
>news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>
>> I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
>> is another reason to add to the list.

>
>What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
>vehicles, and their direction of travel?


When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the road.
--------------
Alex


motsco_ _ 10-22-2004 01:51 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Alex Rodriguez wrote:
> In article <Fq7ed.28448$cr4.15781@edtnps84>, Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada says...
>
>>"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
>>news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>
>>>I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
>>>is another reason to add to the list.

>>
>>What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
>>vehicles, and their direction of travel?

>
>
> When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the road.
> --------------
> Alex


===============

1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed at
JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(

'Curly'


motsco_ _ 10-22-2004 01:51 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Alex Rodriguez wrote:
> In article <Fq7ed.28448$cr4.15781@edtnps84>, Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada says...
>
>>"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
>>news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>
>>>I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
>>>is another reason to add to the list.

>>
>>What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
>>vehicles, and their direction of travel?

>
>
> When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the road.
> --------------
> Alex


===============

1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed at
JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(

'Curly'


RWM 10-22-2004 02:55 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 


motsco_ _ wrote:
> Alex Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> In article <Fq7ed.28448$cr4.15781@edtnps84>, Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada
>> says...
>>
>>> "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>>
>>>> I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
>>>> is another reason to add to the list.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
>>> vehicles, and their direction of travel?

>>
>>
>>
>> When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the
>> road.
>> --------------
>> Alex

>
>
> ===============
>
> 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed at
> JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>


Yep, I wish that NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare
produced by poorly designed OEM headlight system optics and beam
cutoffs, and that local licensing authorities paid even closer attention
to poor aiming and inappropriate mounting and use of fog/driving lights,
especially those "kewl" overwattage bulbs/inserts/capsules.



RWM 10-22-2004 02:55 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 


motsco_ _ wrote:
> Alex Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> In article <Fq7ed.28448$cr4.15781@edtnps84>, Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada
>> says...
>>
>>> "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:cla2sg$cv$2@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>>
>>>> I should of guessed. Geico will never get my business. This stupidity
>>>> is another reason to add to the list.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is stupid about having a system that increases the visibility of
>>> vehicles, and their direction of travel?

>>
>>
>>
>> When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the
>> road.
>> --------------
>> Alex

>
>
> ===============
>
> 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed at
> JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>


Yep, I wish that NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare
produced by poorly designed OEM headlight system optics and beam
cutoffs, and that local licensing authorities paid even closer attention
to poor aiming and inappropriate mounting and use of fog/driving lights,
especially those "kewl" overwattage bulbs/inserts/capsules.



Brian Smith 10-22-2004 04:05 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:clb8sm$paf$9@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>
> When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the road.


Perhaps it is the general lack of concern executed by vehicle drivers, that
is the cause of the blinding glare. For example, the improperly loaded trunk
or pickup bed, that has the vehicle's lights aimed higher than legally
permitted.

--
Brian

Did you ever notice, that; the Roman Numerals for forty (40) are XL?



Brian Smith 10-22-2004 04:05 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:clb8sm$paf$9@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>
> When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the road.


Perhaps it is the general lack of concern executed by vehicle drivers, that
is the cause of the blinding glare. For example, the improperly loaded trunk
or pickup bed, that has the vehicle's lights aimed higher than legally
permitted.

--
Brian

Did you ever notice, that; the Roman Numerals for forty (40) are XL?



Brian Smith 10-22-2004 04:06 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:41794892.3020802@interbaun.com...
>
> 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed at
> JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(


Isn't that the truth. Makes you wonder what exactly the drivers are looking
for when their lights are aimed at the treetops.

--
Brian

4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions



Brian Smith 10-22-2004 04:06 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:41794892.3020802@interbaun.com...
>
> 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed at
> JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(


Isn't that the truth. Makes you wonder what exactly the drivers are looking
for when their lights are aimed at the treetops.

--
Brian

4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions



motsco_ _ 10-22-2004 04:27 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
RWM wrote:
> Yep, I wish that NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare
> produced by poorly designed OEM headlight system optics and beam
> cutoffs, and that local licensing authorities paid even closer attention
> to poor aiming and inappropriate mounting and use of fog/driving lights,
> especially those "kewl" overwattage bulbs/inserts/capsules.



=====================


I get a charge out of watching cars go bye on the highway in a snow
storm or fog.... They look like they're trying to communicate with the
'mother-ship' by pointing one headlight into the upper reaches of the
atmosphere:-)

'Cruly'


motsco_ _ 10-22-2004 04:27 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
RWM wrote:
> Yep, I wish that NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare
> produced by poorly designed OEM headlight system optics and beam
> cutoffs, and that local licensing authorities paid even closer attention
> to poor aiming and inappropriate mounting and use of fog/driving lights,
> especially those "kewl" overwattage bulbs/inserts/capsules.



=====================


I get a charge out of watching cars go bye on the highway in a snow
storm or fog.... They look like they're trying to communicate with the
'mother-ship' by pointing one headlight into the upper reaches of the
atmosphere:-)

'Cruly'


tomb 10-23-2004 12:56 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Brian Smith wrote:
| "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
| news:41794892.3020802@interbaun.com...
||
|| 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed
|| at JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(
|
| Isn't that the truth. Makes you wonder what exactly the drivers are
| looking for when their lights are aimed at the treetops.

Their ape relatives, perhaps?



tomb 10-23-2004 12:56 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Brian Smith wrote:
| "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
| news:41794892.3020802@interbaun.com...
||
|| 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed
|| at JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(
|
| Isn't that the truth. Makes you wonder what exactly the drivers are
| looking for when their lights are aimed at the treetops.

Their ape relatives, perhaps?



Brian Smith 10-23-2004 05:10 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2tu6fqF227reiU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> Their ape relatives, perhaps?


LOL! That could be the answer.



Brian Smith 10-23-2004 05:10 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

"tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2tu6fqF227reiU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> Their ape relatives, perhaps?


LOL! That could be the answer.



Larry 10-23-2004 12:49 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
And how much is the discount that GEICO offers for DRL in % or $?

"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message news:41785BBA.5080508@RWMann.com...
> Be that generalization as it may, my carrier (not AAA) does, and is now
> doing so on our other car.
>
> Larry wrote:
>
> >To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering

a
> >discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
> >the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.
> >
> >
> >"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message
> >news:LtidnaU7H-TQWOrcRVn-ig@speakeasy.net...
> >
> >
> >>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced

voltage
> >>>>as DRLs?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
> >>>you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
> >>>drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.
> >>
> >>




Larry 10-23-2004 12:49 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
And how much is the discount that GEICO offers for DRL in % or $?

"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message news:41785BBA.5080508@RWMann.com...
> Be that generalization as it may, my carrier (not AAA) does, and is now
> doing so on our other car.
>
> Larry wrote:
>
> >To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering

a
> >discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
> >the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.
> >
> >
> >"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message
> >news:LtidnaU7H-TQWOrcRVn-ig@speakeasy.net...
> >
> >
> >>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced

voltage
> >>>>as DRLs?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
> >>>you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
> >>>drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.
> >>
> >>




Abeness 10-24-2004 09:35 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
RWM wrote:
> I wish NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare produced by
> poorly designed headlight systems, beam cutoffs, aiming and
> inappropriate use of fog lights and "kewl" overwattage
> bulbs/inserts/capsules.


Wholly agreed. Particularly in dark country areas, I often have a very
difficult time seeing my side of the road when someone with about 10M
candle-power shooting off their front bumper comes along in the opposite
direction. At least with my power mirrors I can simply aim them down
when they run up behind me...

Abeness 10-24-2004 09:35 PM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
RWM wrote:
> I wish NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare produced by
> poorly designed headlight systems, beam cutoffs, aiming and
> inappropriate use of fog lights and "kewl" overwattage
> bulbs/inserts/capsules.


Wholly agreed. Particularly in dark country areas, I often have a very
difficult time seeing my side of the road when someone with about 10M
candle-power shooting off their front bumper comes along in the opposite
direction. At least with my power mirrors I can simply aim them down
when they run up behind me...

me 10-28-2004 01:01 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
The big lie about DRL's being safe. It's proven that they don't do any
good.

http://www.motorists.com/stealthis/lightsoff.html


"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:wiOdd.23088$_u6.3811@edtnps89...
>
> "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
> news:cl6b92$sid$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>
>> It is stupid that an insurance company would give a discount for
>> something
>> that has no proven benefits. Also, high beam DRL's are stupid because
>> the
>> aiming of the light puts it right at eye level of other road users. Even
>> at reduced voltage, it is annoying.

>
> No proven benefits? You haven't read very much (if anything) on the
> subject.
> Years of testing were done in may countries, before DRLs were developed.
>
> --
> Brian
>
> Ever stop to think... and forget to start again?
>
>




me 10-28-2004 01:01 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
The big lie about DRL's being safe. It's proven that they don't do any
good.

http://www.motorists.com/stealthis/lightsoff.html


"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:wiOdd.23088$_u6.3811@edtnps89...
>
> "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
> news:cl6b92$sid$1@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
>>
>> It is stupid that an insurance company would give a discount for
>> something
>> that has no proven benefits. Also, high beam DRL's are stupid because
>> the
>> aiming of the light puts it right at eye level of other road users. Even
>> at reduced voltage, it is annoying.

>
> No proven benefits? You haven't read very much (if anything) on the
> subject.
> Years of testing were done in may countries, before DRLs were developed.
>
> --
> Brian
>
> Ever stop to think... and forget to start again?
>
>




me 10-28-2004 01:04 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Here is a bit of text regarding DRL's from the following website.

The first, last and only large scale U.S. study that has been completed and
published on the effects of DRLs as safety devices, was conducted by the
insurance industry supported Highway Loss Data Institute. The results;
vehicles equipped with DRLs were involved in more accidents than similar
vehicles without DRLs. The difference was minimal. but the meaning was
strait forward, DRLs aggravate other motorists, obscure directional lights,
waste fuel, "mask" other road users that don't have headlights on, or don't
have headlights period (pedestrians and bicyclists) and their net effect on
accident reduction is zero or worse.

http://www.motorists.com/stealthis/lightsoff.html


"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:cl61tu$gv6$5@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
> In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM@RWMann.com says...
>>Is there an OEM relay, say from a Canadian spec CR-V, that can enable a
>>DRL function on a US spec car?
>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>as DRLs?

>
> The obvious question is why bother? When the conditions warrant it, you
> can
> reach over and turn on your low beams. High beams are reduced voltage are
> a very stupid idea.
> ---------------
> Alex
>
>




me 10-28-2004 01:04 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
Here is a bit of text regarding DRL's from the following website.

The first, last and only large scale U.S. study that has been completed and
published on the effects of DRLs as safety devices, was conducted by the
insurance industry supported Highway Loss Data Institute. The results;
vehicles equipped with DRLs were involved in more accidents than similar
vehicles without DRLs. The difference was minimal. but the meaning was
strait forward, DRLs aggravate other motorists, obscure directional lights,
waste fuel, "mask" other road users that don't have headlights on, or don't
have headlights period (pedestrians and bicyclists) and their net effect on
accident reduction is zero or worse.

http://www.motorists.com/stealthis/lightsoff.html


"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:cl61tu$gv6$5@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
> In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM@RWMann.com says...
>>Is there an OEM relay, say from a Canadian spec CR-V, that can enable a
>>DRL function on a US spec car?
>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>as DRLs?

>
> The obvious question is why bother? When the conditions warrant it, you
> can
> reach over and turn on your low beams. High beams are reduced voltage are
> a very stupid idea.
> ---------------
> Alex
>
>




RWM 10-28-2004 07:24 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

For the Highway Loss Data Institute's ** actual ** position on DRLs,
see: http://www.iihs.org/safety_facts/qanda/drl.htm

Numerous insurance companies offer discounts for their use... Think
about it.


me wrote:

>The big lie about DRL's being safe. It's proven that they don't do any
>good.
>
>


RWM 10-28-2004 07:24 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 

For the Highway Loss Data Institute's ** actual ** position on DRLs,
see: http://www.iihs.org/safety_facts/qanda/drl.htm

Numerous insurance companies offer discounts for their use... Think
about it.


me wrote:

>The big lie about DRL's being safe. It's proven that they don't do any
>good.
>
>


RWM 10-28-2004 07:26 AM

Re: Enable DRL on 2005 US Spec CR-V?
 
For the Highway Loss Data Institute's ** actual ** position on DRLs,
see: http://www.iihs.org/safety_facts/qanda/drl.htm

Numerous insurance companies offer discounts for their use... Think
about it.


me wrote:

>Here is a bit of text regarding DRL's from the following website.
>
>The first, last and only large scale U.S. study that has been completed and
>published on the effects of DRLs as safety devices, was conducted by the
>insurance industry supported Highway Loss Data Institute. The results;
>vehicles equipped with DRLs were involved in more accidents than similar
>vehicles without DRLs. The difference was minimal. but the meaning was
>strait forward, DRLs aggravate other motorists, obscure directional lights,
>waste fuel, "mask" other road users that don't have headlights on, or don't
>have headlights period (pedestrians and bicyclists) and their net effect on
>accident reduction is zero or worse.
>



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