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'Curly Q. Links' 05-16-2006 11:26 AM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
jim beam wrote:
>
> ftdn wrote:
> > Took my 98 dx 5spd to the shop today and asked them to check my IAC.
> > Which I will check myself. There is some crappy air intake on the car
> > and the people at the shop said thats what was causing my up and down
> > idle. Can a crappy air intake cause the same issue as a malfunctioning
> > IACV?
> >

> have you checked the coolant level in the radiator? if it's not full to
> the top, it can cause idle problems because one of the sensors is not
> fully immersed.


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Beyond that, the reservior needs to be full too, since trapped air can't
escape if there's no coolant in the reservoir to replace it.
Honda premix is the foolproof thing to try first. You might have to top
it up to MAX twice.

'Curly'

ftdn 05-16-2006 11:49 AM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
>A quick test:
>Warm the engine up to full hot and keep it running.
>Pull the "crappy intake" so you can see into the throttle body.
>There ought to be a port visible in the throttle body.
>Partially cover the port with your finger. Does the idle settle down?
>Keep covering more of the port until the idle settles down.


>Does it eventually settle down? If so, the IAC isn't moving correctly.


it never settles out


ftdn 05-16-2006 11:49 AM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
>A quick test:
>Warm the engine up to full hot and keep it running.
>Pull the "crappy intake" so you can see into the throttle body.
>There ought to be a port visible in the throttle body.
>Partially cover the port with your finger. Does the idle settle down?
>Keep covering more of the port until the idle settles down.


>Does it eventually settle down? If so, the IAC isn't moving correctly.


it never settles out


ftdn 05-16-2006 11:49 AM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
>A quick test:
>Warm the engine up to full hot and keep it running.
>Pull the "crappy intake" so you can see into the throttle body.
>There ought to be a port visible in the throttle body.
>Partially cover the port with your finger. Does the idle settle down?
>Keep covering more of the port until the idle settles down.


>Does it eventually settle down? If so, the IAC isn't moving correctly.


it never settles out


ftdn 05-18-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
idles normally when the AC is turned on?


ftdn 05-18-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
idles normally when the AC is turned on?


ftdn 05-18-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
idles normally when the AC is turned on?


Matt Ion 05-21-2006 02:12 AM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
ftdn wrote:
> OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
> turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
> blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
> idles normally when the AC is turned on?


Engaging the A/C kicks up the throttle a bit to compensate for the
additional drag of the compressor.

I'd really be suspecting a vacuum leak at this point.


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Matt Ion 05-21-2006 02:12 AM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
ftdn wrote:
> OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
> turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
> blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
> idles normally when the AC is turned on?


Engaging the A/C kicks up the throttle a bit to compensate for the
additional drag of the compressor.

I'd really be suspecting a vacuum leak at this point.


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Matt Ion 05-21-2006 02:12 AM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
ftdn wrote:
> OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
> turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
> blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
> idles normally when the AC is turned on?


Engaging the A/C kicks up the throttle a bit to compensate for the
additional drag of the compressor.

I'd really be suspecting a vacuum leak at this point.


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Hootie 05-22-2006 12:04 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
Anyone know what the best way is to find out where the vacuum leak is?

"Matt Ion" <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in message
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> ftdn wrote:
>> OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
>> turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
>> blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
>> idles normally when the AC is turned on?

>
> Engaging the A/C kicks up the throttle a bit to compensate for the
> additional drag of the compressor.
>
> I'd really be suspecting a vacuum leak at this point.
>
>
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Hootie 05-22-2006 12:04 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
Anyone know what the best way is to find out where the vacuum leak is?

"Matt Ion" <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in message
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> ftdn wrote:
>> OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
>> turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
>> blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
>> idles normally when the AC is turned on?

>
> Engaging the A/C kicks up the throttle a bit to compensate for the
> additional drag of the compressor.
>
> I'd really be suspecting a vacuum leak at this point.
>
>
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Hootie 05-22-2006 12:04 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
Anyone know what the best way is to find out where the vacuum leak is?

"Matt Ion" <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in message
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> ftdn wrote:
>> OK! I found out something today. The erratic Idle stops when the AC is
>> turned on! The AC has to be turned on though, It can't just be the
>> blower/fan. The AC also makes a whistling sound. Any idea why it
>> idles normally when the AC is turned on?

>
> Engaging the A/C kicks up the throttle a bit to compensate for the
> additional drag of the compressor.
>
> I'd really be suspecting a vacuum leak at this point.
>
>
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Matt Ion 05-22-2006 04:49 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
Hootie wrote:
> Anyone know what the best way is to find out where the vacuum leak is?


A good pair of humanoid auditory sensors.


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Matt Ion 05-22-2006 04:49 PM

Re: Erratic Idle
 
Hootie wrote:
> Anyone know what the best way is to find out where the vacuum leak is?


A good pair of humanoid auditory sensors.


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