Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
"Chris Lamb" <clamb1@new.rr.com> wrote in message news:45219414.1340257@news-server.new.rr.com... >I went to carprices.com, followed the compare link, put 4 different > vehicles in, then read the many things people had to say about them. > A common thread seemed to be how the quality with Honda has really > gone downhill. That's surprising. I owned quite a few Civic > Hatchbacks and Accords that I always bought new and they were > flawless. But buyers of FITs and Elements reported some bad problems > with transmission failure within 1000 miles, engine failure, reports > that the problem wasn't covered under warranty, and various other > problems. I don't know where the US Fits are assembled, but the Japanese built ones are generally praised on build. Have a look in the showroom and decide. Given Honda's reputation is built on making engines it would seem VERY odd for them to be selling duff ones on a 4 year old design and not honouring a warranty. As previously posted the UK Consumers association survey reports that the Jazz is the most reliable car you can buy. Something like no major failures in 400 over 12 months if I recall. > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 20:06:35 +0100, "Skippy" <Skippy@spam.com> wrote: > >> >>"Chris Lamb" <clamb1@new.rr.com> wrote in message >>news:452128da.20998374@news-server.new.rr.com... >>>I need some wheels. Cost is the primary determinant, but I want to >>> spend my money wisely, and a couple thousand more for a vehicle that >>> gives me more utility may be money well spent. Second determinant is >>> fuel economy. I don't haul anything, it is just me going many miles. >>> I have looked at the Fit and Yaris and they fit for cost and economy. >>> But I have read some real horror stories about the FIT. >> >>Horror stories? Please tell. >> >>The Fit has been around in Japan and Europe for about 4 years. It's come >>top 5 (sector or overall) of most owner surveys it's appeared in. >>Obviously >>I'm a biased Honda owner, but 'horror stories' doesn't imply impartiality >>either. I do hear that they're a bit hard to come by in the US at the >>moment, and that's about as bad as I've heard. >> >>> >>> This does not HAVE TO be a determinant, but it would be nice if the >>> vehicle could pull say a 1000# trailer, little fishing boat. But that >>> is just a nice to have. >>> >>> I like the looks of both the Element and the Scion xB. >>> >>> Of those 4 vehicles, and understanding my determinants, and hopefully >>> YOU knowing a whole lot more about these vehicles than I do, which >>> would you buy and why? >> >>I'd buy the Fit. They are a lovely little car, IMO. I carry bikes about >>and the magic seats work amazingly for 1-2 of them. I wouldn't know about >>towing. I do have the tow-bar, but only to fit a 4 bike rack on. >> >>Skippy >>E&OE >> >> > |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
If a sporty ride is a priority Fit might be better choice.
If saving a few bucks is a priority and you like boats Fit might not be as fitting. I think Yaris has more boat-like properties. Or that's an impression I derived from reading the C&D subcompact comparo. The little parody on Lexus might be more reliable though. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
If a sporty ride is a priority Fit might be better choice.
If saving a few bucks is a priority and you like boats Fit might not be as fitting. I think Yaris has more boat-like properties. Or that's an impression I derived from reading the C&D subcompact comparo. The little parody on Lexus might be more reliable though. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
If a sporty ride is a priority Fit might be better choice.
If saving a few bucks is a priority and you like boats Fit might not be as fitting. I think Yaris has more boat-like properties. Or that's an impression I derived from reading the C&D subcompact comparo. The little parody on Lexus might be more reliable though. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
We drove Yaris(2), Fit(sport), Scions(2), Hyundai - and the Fit stood
out as more solid-feeling when stressed. 45 years ago I raced SCCA (all RWD), and it's my inclination to push a car pretty hard. The Fit did great, the Hyundai was flaky, and the several Toyotas were in between. I'll go further - pushed hard, the Hyundai was so scary at the edge that I pulled over to check tire pressure. The Fit came loose gently and predictably, and never felt out of control. The brakes were about the same but I didn't measure. Overall, the Fit seemed safest in emergencies and with its superior handling and adequate engine would win most Class H or so of the early 60s. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
We drove Yaris(2), Fit(sport), Scions(2), Hyundai - and the Fit stood
out as more solid-feeling when stressed. 45 years ago I raced SCCA (all RWD), and it's my inclination to push a car pretty hard. The Fit did great, the Hyundai was flaky, and the several Toyotas were in between. I'll go further - pushed hard, the Hyundai was so scary at the edge that I pulled over to check tire pressure. The Fit came loose gently and predictably, and never felt out of control. The brakes were about the same but I didn't measure. Overall, the Fit seemed safest in emergencies and with its superior handling and adequate engine would win most Class H or so of the early 60s. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
We drove Yaris(2), Fit(sport), Scions(2), Hyundai - and the Fit stood
out as more solid-feeling when stressed. 45 years ago I raced SCCA (all RWD), and it's my inclination to push a car pretty hard. The Fit did great, the Hyundai was flaky, and the several Toyotas were in between. I'll go further - pushed hard, the Hyundai was so scary at the edge that I pulled over to check tire pressure. The Fit came loose gently and predictably, and never felt out of control. The brakes were about the same but I didn't measure. Overall, the Fit seemed safest in emergencies and with its superior handling and adequate engine would win most Class H or so of the early 60s. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
"ego" <jung@freud.id> wrote in message news:Z3QUg.228$gU6.77@tornado.socal.rr.com... > We drove Yaris(2), Fit(sport), Scions(2), Hyundai - and the Fit stood > out as more solid-feeling when stressed. 45 years ago I raced SCCA (all > RWD), and it's my inclination to push a car pretty hard. The Fit did > great, the Hyundai was flaky, and the several Toyotas were in between. > I'll go further - pushed hard, the Hyundai was so scary at the edge that > I pulled over to check tire pressure. The Fit came loose gently and > predictably, and never felt out of control. The brakes were about the > same but I didn't measure. Overall, the Fit seemed safest in emergencies > and with its superior handling and adequate engine would win most Class > H or so of the early 60s. Off topic -- but you probably remember the Sunbeam Tiger given your background. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
"ego" <jung@freud.id> wrote in message news:Z3QUg.228$gU6.77@tornado.socal.rr.com... > We drove Yaris(2), Fit(sport), Scions(2), Hyundai - and the Fit stood > out as more solid-feeling when stressed. 45 years ago I raced SCCA (all > RWD), and it's my inclination to push a car pretty hard. The Fit did > great, the Hyundai was flaky, and the several Toyotas were in between. > I'll go further - pushed hard, the Hyundai was so scary at the edge that > I pulled over to check tire pressure. The Fit came loose gently and > predictably, and never felt out of control. The brakes were about the > same but I didn't measure. Overall, the Fit seemed safest in emergencies > and with its superior handling and adequate engine would win most Class > H or so of the early 60s. Off topic -- but you probably remember the Sunbeam Tiger given your background. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
"ego" <jung@freud.id> wrote in message news:Z3QUg.228$gU6.77@tornado.socal.rr.com... > We drove Yaris(2), Fit(sport), Scions(2), Hyundai - and the Fit stood > out as more solid-feeling when stressed. 45 years ago I raced SCCA (all > RWD), and it's my inclination to push a car pretty hard. The Fit did > great, the Hyundai was flaky, and the several Toyotas were in between. > I'll go further - pushed hard, the Hyundai was so scary at the edge that > I pulled over to check tire pressure. The Fit came loose gently and > predictably, and never felt out of control. The brakes were about the > same but I didn't measure. Overall, the Fit seemed safest in emergencies > and with its superior handling and adequate engine would win most Class > H or so of the early 60s. Off topic -- but you probably remember the Sunbeam Tiger given your background. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
I'd go with the Element, solely for its safety and four-wheel drive.
You could definitely tow a boat with this one, it's safer than the Fit (both in side-impact and front-impact), and the AWD system is a necessary componet where I live...I don't know about your location, but that's just my opinion. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
I'd go with the Element, solely for its safety and four-wheel drive.
You could definitely tow a boat with this one, it's safer than the Fit (both in side-impact and front-impact), and the AWD system is a necessary componet where I live...I don't know about your location, but that's just my opinion. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
I'd go with the Element, solely for its safety and four-wheel drive.
You could definitely tow a boat with this one, it's safer than the Fit (both in side-impact and front-impact), and the AWD system is a necessary componet where I live...I don't know about your location, but that's just my opinion. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
Robert wrote:
> I'd go with the Element, solely for its safety and four-wheel drive. > You could definitely tow a boat with this one, it's safer than the Fit > (both in side-impact and front-impact), and the AWD system is a > necessary componet where I live...I don't know about your location, but > that's just my opinion. Why exactly is AWD necessary in your area? If you are referring to winter conditions, all you need is a good set of winter tires. |
Re: FIT or Yaris - Element or xB
Robert wrote:
> I'd go with the Element, solely for its safety and four-wheel drive. > You could definitely tow a boat with this one, it's safer than the Fit > (both in side-impact and front-impact), and the AWD system is a > necessary componet where I live...I don't know about your location, but > that's just my opinion. Why exactly is AWD necessary in your area? If you are referring to winter conditions, all you need is a good set of winter tires. |
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