Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <15621-47448A68-633@storefull-3316.bay.webtv.net>,
PaulEZ@webtv.net (Paul EZ) wrote:

> Before anyone rips the Malibu (or domestic
> cars in general) I suggest you have a look at this new Chevy first. It
> just might change your perception. On the other hand, the new Accord's
> reviews have been lukewarm at best. I don't see the new Accord as a
> major hit in any respect, compared to the Malibu.

no, what you're seeing is that the Accord was already so good,
improvements are by definition incremental. And the Chevy was so bad,
even moderate improvements are earth-shatteringly large.

tww1491

"Paul EZ" <PaulEZ@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Chevrolet has finally belted out a home run with the new Malibu. Most
> reviews are ecstatic, and suggest that the Malibu clearly outshines its
> competitors in many areas. Before anyone rips the Malibu (or domestic
> cars in general) I suggest you have a look at this new Chevy first. It
> just might change your perception. On the other hand, the new Accord's
> reviews have been lukewarm at best. I don't see the new Accord as a
> major hit in any respect, compared to the Malibu. EZ
>
I think it has the standard EcoTech engine which has been described as
thrashy and not smooth like Honda's I4. Other vehicles like the Soltice
were greeted with the same estatic reviews and have now been graded as Not
Recomended by CU. I think this will have to be "wait and see" proposition
given GMs previous failures.
I hope it is a "home run" for GMs sake, but initial reviews mean nothing
until the car has been out there for while.

John Horner

Paul EZ wrote:
> Chevrolet has finally belted out a home run with the new Malibu. Most
> reviews are ecstatic, and suggest that the Malibu clearly outshines its
> competitors in many areas. Before anyone rips the Malibu (or domestic
> cars in general) I suggest you have a look at this new Chevy first. It
> just might change your perception. On the other hand, the new Accord's
> reviews have been lukewarm at best. I don't see the new Accord as a
> major hit in any respect, compared to the Malibu. EZ
>


Hmmm, I've read a bunch of reviews of both and it didn't come across
that way at all. I would bet that four years from now the Accord will
have much higher resale value as well.

the phelper

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:55:26 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Paul EZ wrote:
>> Chevrolet has finally belted out a home run with the new Malibu. Most
>> reviews are ecstatic, and suggest that the Malibu clearly outshines its
>> competitors in many areas. Before anyone rips the Malibu (or domestic
>> cars in general) I suggest you have a look at this new Chevy first. It
>> just might change your perception. On the other hand, the new Accord's
>> reviews have been lukewarm at best. I don't see the new Accord as a
>> major hit in any respect, compared to the Malibu. EZ
>>
>
>
>Hmmm, I've read a bunch of reviews of both and it didn't come across
>that way at all. I would bet that four years from now the Accord will
>have much higher resale value as well.


I'm sorry... I'm American... and I wish we built the best vehicles...
I'm patriotic, but I know when I'm beat...

Yeah.. The Malibu, come on... seriously... the car you knew america
couldn't build...

Just another cadavalier.... Puhleeze....

Nobody

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:13k6dhk77t6ltd6@corp.supernews.com:

> And this is a bad thing? I hate locking gas caps. The inside latch is
> just an unessesary pain in the ***. Ford used to inflict that ticky
> tack stuff on me, but they finally got wise and dropped it. I have not
> once missed having to go back to the inside of the car to trip the
> stupid gas door. And I sure as heck don't want a key on the gas door
> or cap.

What's your address so I can come over and dump some in your gas tank.

> Two of my last three Fords did have cabin filters. My current Nissan
> Frontier has one. I haven't detected any advantage to the cabin
> filters. If they were optional, I wouldn't order them. The replacement
> cabin filters are more expensive than the engine air filters - makes
> no sense to me. The cabin filter in the Nissan is totally worthless.
> I spend a lot of time on dirt roads and in fields, and the Nissan
> filter doesn't appear to stop anything. The inside of the truck is
> coated with dust. And there is a group of trees I regularly pass with
> some sort of nasty pollen that the filters never stop.

The Honda ones work very well. $15 or so every three years for a filter is
not that expensive and that's the dealer part. Of course, the dealer will
try to charge you $100 to install it when it takes like 1 minute.

Woody

"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A0DEED93690FIDTOKENnobodyIDTOKEN@66.250.1 46.128...
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:13k6dhk77t6ltd6@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> And this is a bad thing? I hate locking gas caps. The inside latch is
>> just an unessesary pain in the ***. Ford used to inflict that ticky
>> tack stuff on me, but they finally got wise and dropped it. I have not
>> once missed having to go back to the inside of the car to trip the
>> stupid gas door. And I sure as heck don't want a key on the gas door
>> or cap.
>
> What's your address so I can come over and dump some in your gas
> tank.
>
>> Two of my last three Fords did have cabin filters. My current Nissan
>> Frontier has one. I haven't detected any advantage to the cabin
>> filters. If they were optional, I wouldn't order them. The replacement
>> cabin filters are more expensive than the engine air filters - makes
>> no sense to me. The cabin filter in the Nissan is totally worthless.
>> I spend a lot of time on dirt roads and in fields, and the Nissan
>> filter doesn't appear to stop anything. The inside of the truck is
>> coated with dust. And there is a group of trees I regularly pass with
>> some sort of nasty pollen that the filters never stop.
>
> The Honda ones work very well. $15 or so every three years for a filter
> is
> not that expensive and that's the dealer part. Of course, the dealer will
> try to charge you $100 to install it when it takes like 1 minute.

You haven't seen the Odyssey I take it. You have to remove the glovebox, cut
out a plastic bar used for assembly, Remove the glovebox mounting rail with
screws buried in the side and then you can get to the door to the filter. It
is more like a one hour operation, not 1 minute.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <7fDbj.17$L22.8@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:

> > The Honda ones work very well. $15 or so every three years for a filter
> > is
> > not that expensive and that's the dealer part. Of course, the dealer will
> > try to charge you $100 to install it when it takes like 1 minute.
>
> You haven't seen the Odyssey I take it. You have to remove the glovebox, cut
> out a plastic bar used for assembly, Remove the glovebox mounting rail with
> screws buried in the side and then you can get to the door to the filter. It
> is more like a one hour operation, not 1 minute.

Cutting the plastic bar used for assembly is done ONLY at the FIRST
filter replacement.

Obviously, once it's cut, you don't do it anymore.

The leftmost glovebox mounting rail screws need only be loosened, not
removed.