fuel system additives
 

Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
to do this? Does it make a difference?

Re: fuel system additives
 

<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?

What have you found the results to be over the period of time that you
have been using the additives?

Do you believe that your vehicle has performed better?

Have you spent less money on fuel?

Re: fuel system additives
 

<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?

What have you found the results to be over the period of time that you
have been using the additives?

Do you believe that your vehicle has performed better?

Have you spent less money on fuel?

Re: fuel system additives
 

bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives?

yes, that's why it's mandated by federal law.

> I know they have cleaners in gas,

there is a federal minimum. but different brands vary from that, in
some cases up to five times the minimum.

> but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>
if you're having injector problems, yes. if you buy cheap gas, most
definitely. once every 3 months or so is fine.

Re: fuel system additives
 

bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives?

yes, that's why it's mandated by federal law.

> I know they have cleaners in gas,

there is a federal minimum. but different brands vary from that, in
some cases up to five times the minimum.

> but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>
if you're having injector problems, yes. if you buy cheap gas, most
definitely. once every 3 months or so is fine.

Re: fuel system additives
 

A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website:
.. Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by
American
Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair
procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector malfunction,
the
faulty injector should be replaced.
Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur.
<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>

Re: fuel system additives
 

A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website:
.. Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by
American
Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair
procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector malfunction,
the
faulty injector should be replaced.
Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur.
<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>

Re: fuel system additives
 

Howard wrote:
> A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website:
> . Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by
> American
> Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair
> procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector
> malfunction, the
> faulty injector should be replaced.
> Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur.

the after-market cleaning/flushing sold by monkey-lube outfits /is/
unnecessary and it /can/ cause problems just like they say. but adding
detergent to your gas sufficient to clean injectors, as is frequently
cited here when people have "flooded" start problems, is a good idea and
it doesn't harm o-rings or seals.


> <bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
>> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
>> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
>> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>>
>

Re: fuel system additives
 

Howard wrote:
> A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website:
> . Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by
> American
> Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair
> procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector
> malfunction, the
> faulty injector should be replaced.
> Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur.

the after-market cleaning/flushing sold by monkey-lube outfits /is/
unnecessary and it /can/ cause problems just like they say. but adding
detergent to your gas sufficient to clean injectors, as is frequently
cited here when people have "flooded" start problems, is a good idea and
it doesn't harm o-rings or seals.


> <bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
>> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
>> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
>> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>>
>

Re: fuel system additives
 

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:

>Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
>additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
>bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
>to do this? Does it make a difference?

Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto
manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use.

Re: fuel system additives
 

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:

>Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
>additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
>bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
>to do this? Does it make a difference?

Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto
manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use.

Re: fuel system additives
 

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
>> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
>> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
>> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>
> Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto
> manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use.

but additives are vital. the car manufacturers that "don't recommend or
suggest their use" /do/ however seem very anxious to ensure that crappy
gas that gums up fuel lines, leaves deposits in injectors, fouls intake
valves and carbons up the combustion chamber is not misinterpreted as
being /their/ fault.

http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html

Re: fuel system additives
 

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
>> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
>> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
>> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>
> Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto
> manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use.

but additives are vital. the car manufacturers that "don't recommend or
suggest their use" /do/ however seem very anxious to ensure that crappy
gas that gums up fuel lines, leaves deposits in injectors, fouls intake
valves and carbons up the combustion chamber is not misinterpreted as
being /their/ fault.

http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html

Re: fuel system additives
 

bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>
Hi,
Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter.

Re: fuel system additives
 

bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one
> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost
> to do this? Does it make a difference?
>
Hi,
Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter.