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Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
In article <Xns9C364E3D4B08Ctegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote: > > no, it's not. They've mapped toptiergas.com to AC Delco's site. > > > > It appears back to normal. No connection to AC Delco's site. huh, still AC Delco's site here. I'll wait for the router tables to update, I guess. |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
42A602.14112326062009@news.eternal-september.org: > In article <Xns9C364E3D4B08Ctegger@208.90.168.18>, > Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote: > >> > no, it's not. They've mapped toptiergas.com to AC Delco's site. >> >> >> >> It appears back to normal. No connection to AC Delco's site. > > huh, still AC Delco's site here. > > I'll wait for the router tables to update, I guess. > What IP address were you getting? toptiergas.com is 69.20.102.218 acdelco.com is 170.224.60.163 Both are registered by GM, though... -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
In article <Xns9C36B6D41217Dtegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote: > What IP address were you getting? > > toptiergas.com is 69.20.102.218 well, that's what my lookup shows. Hang on, let me try my virtual XP machine. Nope. So it's not a local cache, it's a remote cache or a router problem. |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
Thus spake "Dh" <Dh@home.invalid.tv> :
> >"ACAR" <gmwohl@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:c257c301-26d2-4d61-827e-54cb701727c3@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... >On Jun 24, 1:47 pm, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote: >> Bionic Man <t.p.bernha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote >> innews:4c5a3569-91aa-4e95-ae6e-b586894f7815@j20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com: >> >> >> >> > Too bad there is so little information on this at least potentially >> > important topic. >> >> That's for sure. >> >> To me, the whole thing smells faintly "off". Maybe it's all perfectly >> above-board, but the relative lack of information (and participation) >> after >> five long years has me wondering. >> >> > I'll stop back here from time to time to see if there >> > is anything new. In the meanwhile, I'll pay for the piece of mind and >> > limit my cars to Top-Tier gas. >> >> www.toptiergas.com is still down. Very weird. > >> the site is back up. >> >> I'm pretty sure all grades of gas must meet Top Tier standards for the >> brand to get Top Tier approval. > >Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage FF. Safari. Opera. Chrome. > > > > -- - dillon I am not invalid "Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out to be a cylon." -Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS" |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:31:39 -0500, Dillon Pyron
<invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote: >Thus spake Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> : > >>On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:47:12 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> >>wrote: >> >>>Bionic Man <t.p.bernhardt@sbcglobal.net> wrote in >>>news:4c5a3569-91aa-4e95-ae6e-b586894f7815@j20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Too bad there is so little information on this at least potentially >>>> important topic. >>> >>> >>> >>>That's for sure. >>> >>>To me, the whole thing smells faintly "off". Maybe it's all perfectly >>>above-board, but the relative lack of information (and participation) after >>>five long years has me wondering. >>> >>> >>> >>>> I'll stop back here from time to time to see if there >>>> is anything new. In the meanwhile, I'll pay for the piece of mind and >>>> limit my cars to Top-Tier gas. >>> >>> >>> >>>www.toptiergas.com is still down. Very weird. >>> >>>ExxonMobil gas is not rated as "Top Tier" likely only because the "Top >>>Tier" standard requires more ethanol than Exxon is willing to use. Even if >>>Exxon fuels had more effective detergents than anybody else, you'd never >>>know, since they don't qualify for consideration in any case. >> >>In Chicago (maybe all of IL) all gas has 10% ethanol including Mobil. >>For what it is worth, I had an '86 Integra that ran on regular gas. >>After years of filling up at mostly one Mobil station, the car >>developed a knock on acceleration. I believe that this was caused by >>carbon build up in the head/valves. This is exactly the problem that >>more detergent is intended to remedy. >> >>>And what about Valero? Valero is America's largest gasoline refiner, and >>>they even operate their own retail stations. They're not "Top Tier" either. >>> >>>What makes me more curious than anything else is why, after five years, >>>have Ford, Chrysler, Subaru, Suzuki, Mazda, Nissan, Hyundai, Mercedes, and >>>Volkswagen/Porsche/Audi _not_ jumped on the "Top Tier" bandwagon? >> >>Certainly right to be skeptical of anything big corporations do. The >>one thing that makes me think the Top Tier designation is legit is >>that by accounts it is a published standard that any fuel company >>could choose to meet. > >Who publishes this "standard"? ISO? ANSI? SEMA? SAE? It is described in detail at the top tier site. It is their standard but it references ASTM methods. >And, to quote a pretty neat movie, "if everyone's special, no one's >special". In this case, not everyone chooses to be special. In any event, their is no indication that the standard requires payment of any licensing fees which is the real issue. |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:05:24 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote: >In article ><c257c301-26d2-4d61-827e-54cb701727c3@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, > ACAR <gmwohl@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > www.toptiergas.com is still down. Very weird. >> >> the site is back up. > >no, it's not. They've mapped toptiergas.com to AC Delco's site. > >still no sign of the actual toptiergas.com content... It works fine for me right now. |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
In article <d92j451ciu2bk8h68okau8ikgdd2161o9p@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: > >still no sign of the actual toptiergas.com content... > > It works fine for me right now. yeah, through my corporate VPN it's fine, but through my local ISP it still goes to ACDelco TechConnect. Router problems. I've been through this before. It's not worth my time to call anyone about this. |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
Thus spake "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> :
>In article <d92j451ciu2bk8h68okau8ikgdd2161o9p@4ax.com>, > Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: > >> >still no sign of the actual toptiergas.com content... >> >> It works fine for me right now. > >yeah, through my corporate VPN it's fine, but through my local ISP it >still goes to ACDelco TechConnect. > >Router problems. I've been through this before. It's not worth my time >to call anyone about this. Try a different nameserver. Also (I hate, loath to say this) try bouncing your machine if it's Windblows. Or at least flush your browser's cache. But nameserver is your best bet. -- - dillon I am not invalid "Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out to be a cylon." -Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS" |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
In article <Xns9C36B6D41217Dtegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote: > >> It appears back to normal. No connection to AC Delco's site. > > > > huh, still AC Delco's site here. > > > > I'll wait for the router tables to update, I guess. > > > > > > What IP address were you getting? > > toptiergas.com is 69.20.102.218 > acdelco.com is 170.224.60.163 OK, get this: http://toptiergas.com goes to ACDelco's TechConnect http://www.toptiergas.com goes to Top Tier Gas. whatever. |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
2EECCF.12120602072009@news.eternal-september.org: > In article <Xns9C36B6D41217Dtegger@208.90.168.18>, > Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote: > >> >> It appears back to normal. No connection to AC Delco's site. >> > >> > huh, still AC Delco's site here. >> > >> > I'll wait for the router tables to update, I guess. >> > >> >> >> >> What IP address were you getting? >> >> toptiergas.com is 69.20.102.218 >> acdelco.com is 170.224.60.163 > > OK, get this: > > http://toptiergas.com goes to ACDelco's TechConnect > > http://www.toptiergas.com goes to Top Tier Gas. > > whatever. > There's a screwed up DNS cache in a server somewhere, I'll bet. I get 69.20.102.218 for both addresses. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in
news:4f6o45la9gdhmnpp7pposlahkb1rl86sio@4ax.com: > Thus spake "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> : > >>In article <d92j451ciu2bk8h68okau8ikgdd2161o9p@4ax.com>, >> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >>> >still no sign of the actual toptiergas.com content... >>> >>> It works fine for me right now. >> >>yeah, through my corporate VPN it's fine, but through my local ISP it >>still goes to ACDelco TechConnect. >> >>Router problems. I've been through this before. It's not worth my time >>to call anyone about this. > > Try a different nameserver. Also (I hate, loath to say this) try > bouncing your machine if it's Windblows. "Bouncing"? ¿qué es esto? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
Tegger wrote:
> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in > news:4f6o45la9gdhmnpp7pposlahkb1rl86sio@4ax.com: > >> Thus spake "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> : >> >>> In article <d92j451ciu2bk8h68okau8ikgdd2161o9p@4ax.com>, >>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> still no sign of the actual toptiergas.com content... >>>> It works fine for me right now. >>> yeah, through my corporate VPN it's fine, but through my local ISP it >>> still goes to ACDelco TechConnect. >>> >>> Router problems. I've been through this before. It's not worth my time >>> to call anyone about this. >> Try a different nameserver. Also (I hate, loath to say this) try >> bouncing your machine if it's Windblows. > > > > "Bouncing"? > > ¿qué es esto? > > Power off/power on... |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
"M.M." <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:oPb3m.22499$S16.9926@newsfe23.iad: > Tegger wrote: >> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in >> news:4f6o45la9gdhmnpp7pposlahkb1rl86sio@4ax.com: >> >>> Thus spake "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> : >>> >>>> In article <d92j451ciu2bk8h68okau8ikgdd2161o9p@4ax.com>, >>>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> still no sign of the actual toptiergas.com content... >>>>> It works fine for me right now. >>>> yeah, through my corporate VPN it's fine, but through my local ISP >>>> it still goes to ACDelco TechConnect. >>>> >>>> Router problems. I've been through this before. It's not worth my >>>> time to call anyone about this. >>> Try a different nameserver. Also (I hate, loath to say this) try >>> bouncing your machine if it's Windblows. >> >> >> >> "Bouncing"? >> >> ¿qué es esto? >> >> > > Power off/power on... > Ohhhh. Was this procedure once known as "rebooting"? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :
>"M.M." <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in >news:oPb3m.22499$S16.9926@newsfe23.iad: > >> Tegger wrote: >>> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in >>> news:4f6o45la9gdhmnpp7pposlahkb1rl86sio@4ax.com: >>> >>>> Thus spake "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> : >>>> >>>>> In article <d92j451ciu2bk8h68okau8ikgdd2161o9p@4ax.com>, >>>>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> still no sign of the actual toptiergas.com content... >>>>>> It works fine for me right now. >>>>> yeah, through my corporate VPN it's fine, but through my local ISP >>>>> it still goes to ACDelco TechConnect. >>>>> >>>>> Router problems. I've been through this before. It's not worth my >>>>> time to call anyone about this. >>>> Try a different nameserver. Also (I hate, loath to say this) try >>>> bouncing your machine if it's Windblows. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Bouncing"? >>> >>> ¿qué es esto? >>> >>> >> >> Power off/power on... >> > > > >Ohhhh. > >Was this procedure once known as "rebooting"? They've always been the same in "my world". A world that existed long before Bill and Paul got together. Also known as "popping", "flipping", "yo-yo" (although this usually referred to a machine that kept crashing) and many, many more. -- - dillon I am not invalid "Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out to be a cylon." -Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS" |
Re: Gasoline Brands - Not all are alike
Thus spake "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> :
>In article <Xns9C36B6D41217Dtegger@208.90.168.18>, > Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote: > >> >> It appears back to normal. No connection to AC Delco's site. >> > >> > huh, still AC Delco's site here. >> > >> > I'll wait for the router tables to update, I guess. >> > >> >> >> >> What IP address were you getting? >> >> toptiergas.com is 69.20.102.218 >> acdelco.com is 170.224.60.163 > >OK, get this: > >http://toptiergas.com goes to ACDelco's TechConnect > >http://www.toptiergas.com goes to Top Tier Gas. > >whatever. toptiergas.com whois: Registrant: Domain Name Administrator General Motors Corporation 300 Renaissance Center Mail Code 482-C23-B21 Detroit MI 48265-3000 US domainname.admin@gm.com +1.3136654967 Fax: +1.1111111111 Domain Name: toptiergas.com Registrar Name: Markmonitor.com Registrar Whois: whois.markmonitor.com Registrar Homepage: http://www.markmonitor.com Administrative Contact: Domain Name Administrator General Motors Corporation 300 Renaissance Center Mail Code 482-C23-B21 Detroit MI 48265-3000 US domainname.admin@gm.com +1.3136654967 Fax: +1.1111111111 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: DNS Technical Contact EDS NNAM 800 Tower Drive MS 4258 Troy MI 48098 US dnsmaster@eds.com +1.2482655000 Fax: +1.1111111111 Created on..............: 2004-06-16. Expires on..............: 2011-06-16. Record last updated on..: 2009-05-27. 'nuf sed? -- - dillon I am not invalid "Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out to be a cylon." -Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS" |
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