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Steve Lee 12-04-2003 10:30 PM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:06:20 -0500, Vuarra <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
>>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
>>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.

>
>ATF is for the transmission, and gear lube is for differentials in
>rear wheel drive cars. Usually gear lube comes in 80W90 or 75W145
>weights (yes, the same scale as motor oil)


I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
shouldn't be concerned with, correct?

Steve Lee 12-04-2003 10:30 PM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:06:20 -0500, Vuarra <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
>>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
>>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.

>
>ATF is for the transmission, and gear lube is for differentials in
>rear wheel drive cars. Usually gear lube comes in 80W90 or 75W145
>weights (yes, the same scale as motor oil)


I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
shouldn't be concerned with, correct?

Vuarra 12-04-2003 10:52 PM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:30:34 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
>shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


While I highly doubt it, you may wish to check your owner's manual or
other repair manual (Hayne's, Chilton's) just to verify.
Vuarra

Quid quid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
(That which is said in Latin sounds profound.)

Vuarra 12-04-2003 10:52 PM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:30:34 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
>shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


While I highly doubt it, you may wish to check your owner's manual or
other repair manual (Hayne's, Chilton's) just to verify.
Vuarra

Quid quid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
(That which is said in Latin sounds profound.)

Vuarra 12-04-2003 10:52 PM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:30:34 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
>shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


While I highly doubt it, you may wish to check your owner's manual or
other repair manual (Hayne's, Chilton's) just to verify.
Vuarra

Quid quid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
(That which is said in Latin sounds profound.)

Vuarra 12-04-2003 10:52 PM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:30:34 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
>shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


While I highly doubt it, you may wish to check your owner's manual or
other repair manual (Hayne's, Chilton's) just to verify.
Vuarra

Quid quid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
(That which is said in Latin sounds profound.)

null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de 12-05-2003 03:22 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.


Gear lube is usually quite viscous and is designed for Manual
transmissions (usually) differentials (rear wheel drive) and transfer
cases. It has a strong peculiar odor due to the additives. Most
automatics use one of the several types of ATF. The differential in
most front wheel drive vehicles is located in the transmission where
it shares the ATF with the transmission.
ATF is basically a light oil with a rather large quantity of
specialized additives.

null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de 12-05-2003 03:22 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.


Gear lube is usually quite viscous and is designed for Manual
transmissions (usually) differentials (rear wheel drive) and transfer
cases. It has a strong peculiar odor due to the additives. Most
automatics use one of the several types of ATF. The differential in
most front wheel drive vehicles is located in the transmission where
it shares the ATF with the transmission.
ATF is basically a light oil with a rather large quantity of
specialized additives.

null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de 12-05-2003 03:22 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.


Gear lube is usually quite viscous and is designed for Manual
transmissions (usually) differentials (rear wheel drive) and transfer
cases. It has a strong peculiar odor due to the additives. Most
automatics use one of the several types of ATF. The differential in
most front wheel drive vehicles is located in the transmission where
it shares the ATF with the transmission.
ATF is basically a light oil with a rather large quantity of
specialized additives.

null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de 12-05-2003 03:22 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:

>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.


Gear lube is usually quite viscous and is designed for Manual
transmissions (usually) differentials (rear wheel drive) and transfer
cases. It has a strong peculiar odor due to the additives. Most
automatics use one of the several types of ATF. The differential in
most front wheel drive vehicles is located in the transmission where
it shares the ATF with the transmission.
ATF is basically a light oil with a rather large quantity of
specialized additives.

Dave Dodson 12-05-2003 03:30 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 


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"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:a0vvsv0v4qmukvvj6uf1hb3g89l2i5gg3b@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:06:20 -0500, Vuarra <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
> >>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
> >>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.

> >
> >ATF is for the transmission, and gear lube is for differentials in
> >rear wheel drive cars. Usually gear lube comes in 80W90 or 75W145
> >weights (yes, the same scale as motor oil)

>
> I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
> shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


Steve,
Regardless of the other replies, ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid. Gear
lube = gear lubricant. Differences, viscosity, application, and performance.
ATF is light weight petroleum based product very closely related to (in
composition and application) to hydraulic fluid. Gear lube is a heavy weight
oil or a very light weight grease (take your pick) viscosity in the range of
70weight to 120weight (in some cases even higher). Gear lube is used in
differentials, manual transmissions, and transfer cases on many vehicles
ranging from passenger cars to heavy equipment. Honda, however, uses engine
oil as lube for their manual transmissions. At least in most cases as I
recall. If your Pilot has a manual transfer case, to control 2WD or 4WD then
you might have gear lube in it. As was recommended, check your owner's
manual. Specifications for lubricants will be therein contained.

Dave D



Dave Dodson 12-05-2003 03:30 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 


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"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:a0vvsv0v4qmukvvj6uf1hb3g89l2i5gg3b@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:06:20 -0500, Vuarra <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
> >>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
> >>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.

> >
> >ATF is for the transmission, and gear lube is for differentials in
> >rear wheel drive cars. Usually gear lube comes in 80W90 or 75W145
> >weights (yes, the same scale as motor oil)

>
> I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
> shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


Steve,
Regardless of the other replies, ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid. Gear
lube = gear lubricant. Differences, viscosity, application, and performance.
ATF is light weight petroleum based product very closely related to (in
composition and application) to hydraulic fluid. Gear lube is a heavy weight
oil or a very light weight grease (take your pick) viscosity in the range of
70weight to 120weight (in some cases even higher). Gear lube is used in
differentials, manual transmissions, and transfer cases on many vehicles
ranging from passenger cars to heavy equipment. Honda, however, uses engine
oil as lube for their manual transmissions. At least in most cases as I
recall. If your Pilot has a manual transfer case, to control 2WD or 4WD then
you might have gear lube in it. As was recommended, check your owner's
manual. Specifications for lubricants will be therein contained.

Dave D



Dave Dodson 12-05-2003 03:30 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 


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"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:a0vvsv0v4qmukvvj6uf1hb3g89l2i5gg3b@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:06:20 -0500, Vuarra <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
> >>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
> >>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.

> >
> >ATF is for the transmission, and gear lube is for differentials in
> >rear wheel drive cars. Usually gear lube comes in 80W90 or 75W145
> >weights (yes, the same scale as motor oil)

>
> I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
> shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


Steve,
Regardless of the other replies, ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid. Gear
lube = gear lubricant. Differences, viscosity, application, and performance.
ATF is light weight petroleum based product very closely related to (in
composition and application) to hydraulic fluid. Gear lube is a heavy weight
oil or a very light weight grease (take your pick) viscosity in the range of
70weight to 120weight (in some cases even higher). Gear lube is used in
differentials, manual transmissions, and transfer cases on many vehicles
ranging from passenger cars to heavy equipment. Honda, however, uses engine
oil as lube for their manual transmissions. At least in most cases as I
recall. If your Pilot has a manual transfer case, to control 2WD or 4WD then
you might have gear lube in it. As was recommended, check your owner's
manual. Specifications for lubricants will be therein contained.

Dave D



Dave Dodson 12-05-2003 03:30 AM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 


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Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:a0vvsv0v4qmukvvj6uf1hb3g89l2i5gg3b@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:06:20 -0500, Vuarra <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:08:02 GMT, Steve Lee <no@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I noticed that on Mobil 1's site, gear lubrication is offered as one
> >>of their products apart from their ATF and I was wondering what the
> >>difference was? I thought that ATF was the "gear lube"? Thanks.

> >
> >ATF is for the transmission, and gear lube is for differentials in
> >rear wheel drive cars. Usually gear lube comes in 80W90 or 75W145
> >weights (yes, the same scale as motor oil)

>
> I see. So, then, with a car like the Pilot, the gear lube use
> shouldn't be concerned with, correct?


Steve,
Regardless of the other replies, ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid. Gear
lube = gear lubricant. Differences, viscosity, application, and performance.
ATF is light weight petroleum based product very closely related to (in
composition and application) to hydraulic fluid. Gear lube is a heavy weight
oil or a very light weight grease (take your pick) viscosity in the range of
70weight to 120weight (in some cases even higher). Gear lube is used in
differentials, manual transmissions, and transfer cases on many vehicles
ranging from passenger cars to heavy equipment. Honda, however, uses engine
oil as lube for their manual transmissions. At least in most cases as I
recall. If your Pilot has a manual transfer case, to control 2WD or 4WD then
you might have gear lube in it. As was recommended, check your owner's
manual. Specifications for lubricants will be therein contained.

Dave D



Matthew Hunt 12-05-2003 12:36 PM

Re: Is gear lubrication fluid different from ATF?
 
In article <vt0gh2dl13ilae@corp.supernews.com>,
Dave Dodson <ddodson@gci.net> wrote:

> Gear lube is a heavy weight oil or a very light weight grease (take
> your pick) viscosity in the range of 70weight to 120weight (in some
> cases even higher).


Note that SAE grades for gear oil are on a different scale than those
for engine oil. An 85 weight gear oil has a viscosity similar to 30
weight engine oil. An approximate conversion chart is available at:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/visc.html


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