Honda Accord Recall
 

Joys, I have only had my 2004 Accord Ex 6 sedan for 3 weeks now and today I
received a safety recall notice for the Automatic Transmission Second Gear
Inspection!.

Certain operating conditions can result in heat build up in the transmission
second gear set on certain 2003-2004 Accord V6 sedans and coupes. This
could result in gear tooth chipping or in very rare cases , gear breakage.
Gear failure could result in transmission lock-up and a crash could occur.
Oh Joy!

If you have under 24,000km all they do is perform a simple revision to the
cooler return line. Over 24,000km they inspect the affected gear for heat
discolouration and either install an oil jet kit or replace the
transmission.
Has anyone had any experience with this problems or thoughts or opinion on
the fix?

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

In article
<pdUPc.16880$NTD.14528@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com>,
"Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Joys, I have only had my 2004 Accord Ex 6 sedan for 3 weeks now and today I
> received a safety recall notice for the Automatic Transmission Second Gear
> Inspection!.
>
> Certain operating conditions can result in heat build up in the transmission
> second gear set on certain 2003-2004 Accord V6 sedans and coupes. This
> could result in gear tooth chipping or in very rare cases , gear breakage.
> Gear failure could result in transmission lock-up and a crash could occur.
> Oh Joy!
>
> If you have under 24,000km all they do is perform a simple revision to the
> cooler return line. Over 24,000km they inspect the affected gear for heat
> discolouration and either install an oil jet kit or replace the
> transmission.
> Has anyone had any experience with this problems or thoughts or opinion on
> the fix?

http://www.odyclub.com

It's the same transmission as the Odyssey, and they know all about it
over there.

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

In article
<pdUPc.16880$NTD.14528@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com>,
"Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Joys, I have only had my 2004 Accord Ex 6 sedan for 3 weeks now and today I
> received a safety recall notice for the Automatic Transmission Second Gear
> Inspection!.
>
> Certain operating conditions can result in heat build up in the transmission
> second gear set on certain 2003-2004 Accord V6 sedans and coupes. This
> could result in gear tooth chipping or in very rare cases , gear breakage.
> Gear failure could result in transmission lock-up and a crash could occur.
> Oh Joy!
>
> If you have under 24,000km all they do is perform a simple revision to the
> cooler return line. Over 24,000km they inspect the affected gear for heat
> discolouration and either install an oil jet kit or replace the
> transmission.
> Has anyone had any experience with this problems or thoughts or opinion on
> the fix?

http://www.odyclub.com

It's the same transmission as the Odyssey, and they know all about it
over there.

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
the odyssey.
"Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pdUPc.16880$NTD.14528@news04.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> Joys, I have only had my 2004 Accord Ex 6 sedan for 3 weeks now and today
I
> received a safety recall notice for the Automatic Transmission Second
Gear
> Inspection!.
>
> Certain operating conditions can result in heat build up in the
transmission
> second gear set on certain 2003-2004 Accord V6 sedans and coupes. This
> could result in gear tooth chipping or in very rare cases , gear breakage.
> Gear failure could result in transmission lock-up and a crash could occur.
> Oh Joy!
>
> If you have under 24,000km all they do is perform a simple revision to the
> cooler return line. Over 24,000km they inspect the affected gear for heat
> discolouration and either install an oil jet kit or replace the
> transmission.
> Has anyone had any experience with this problems or thoughts or opinion on
> the fix?
>
>

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
the odyssey.
"Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pdUPc.16880$NTD.14528@news04.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> Joys, I have only had my 2004 Accord Ex 6 sedan for 3 weeks now and today
I
> received a safety recall notice for the Automatic Transmission Second
Gear
> Inspection!.
>
> Certain operating conditions can result in heat build up in the
transmission
> second gear set on certain 2003-2004 Accord V6 sedans and coupes. This
> could result in gear tooth chipping or in very rare cases , gear breakage.
> Gear failure could result in transmission lock-up and a crash could occur.
> Oh Joy!
>
> If you have under 24,000km all they do is perform a simple revision to the
> cooler return line. Over 24,000km they inspect the affected gear for heat
> discolouration and either install an oil jet kit or replace the
> transmission.
> Has anyone had any experience with this problems or thoughts or opinion on
> the fix?
>
>

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

In article <gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>,
"Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote:

> we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
> because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
> install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
> same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
> the odyssey.

In some small details, perhaps--but obviously the design is identical,
if the problem AND the fix is identical.

Isn't the actual oil jet kit identical between the two, as well?

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

In article <gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>,
"Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote:

> we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
> because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
> install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
> same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
> the odyssey.

In some small details, perhaps--but obviously the design is identical,
if the problem AND the fix is identical.

Isn't the actual oil jet kit identical between the two, as well?

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

the oil jet kit on the accord uses a banjo fitting, and the odyssey uses a
flange with 2 10mm bolts to attach it.
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-8A62E4.21333408082004@text.usenetserver.com...
> In article <gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>,
> "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its
discolored
> > because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> > replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration,
we
> > install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement.
the
> > same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny
as
> > the odyssey.
>
> In some small details, perhaps--but obviously the design is identical,
> if the problem AND the fix is identical.
>
> Isn't the actual oil jet kit identical between the two, as well?
>

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

the oil jet kit on the accord uses a banjo fitting, and the odyssey uses a
flange with 2 10mm bolts to attach it.
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-8A62E4.21333408082004@text.usenetserver.com...
> In article <gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>,
> "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its
discolored
> > because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> > replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration,
we
> > install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement.
the
> > same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny
as
> > the odyssey.
>
> In some small details, perhaps--but obviously the design is identical,
> if the problem AND the fix is identical.
>
> Isn't the actual oil jet kit identical between the two, as well?
>

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>...
> we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
> because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
> install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
> same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
> the odyssey.

and how do you guys like the camera inspection procedure?????
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>...
> we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
> because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
> install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
> same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
> the odyssey.

and how do you guys like the camera inspection procedure?????
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote in message news:<5ddcea74.0408092039.65f03486@posting.google. com>...
> "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>...
> > we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
> > because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> > replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
> > install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
> > same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
> > the odyssey.
>
> and how do you guys like the camera inspection procedure?????
> Chip

lex.
have you replaced a tranny in a 2003-4 yet???
I have and have nothing good to say about it.
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote in message news:<5ddcea74.0408092039.65f03486@posting.google. com>...
> "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<gNzRc.6807$va2.2032@fe1.texas.rr.com>...
> > we inspect the second gear through the speed sensor hole, if its discolored
> > because of heat according to a table of pictures, the tranny will get
> > replaced. if the second gear shows no signs of damage or discoloration, we
> > install an oil jet kit on ALL trannys that don't require replacement. the
> > same recall first came out on the odysseys. and its not the same tranny as
> > the odyssey.
>
> and how do you guys like the camera inspection procedure?????
> Chip

lex.
have you replaced a tranny in a 2003-4 yet???
I have and have nothing good to say about it.
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

I have a 2004 Accord EX v6 but I have not receive a recall notice. I
checked the Honda's ownerlink and it does not mention that my car has any
recall.

I remember reading the papers on this recall. Is my car excempted? Since I
got the car 8 months ago, I notice that from first to second gear seems to
be a "jump" or a gear grind just small enough to feel vibration on the
gas pedal. This normally occurs on "cold" start. I do not notice this
during very hot summer days.

What are the symptoms to watch for?

Tom

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

I have a 2004 Accord EX v6 but I have not receive a recall notice. I
checked the Honda's ownerlink and it does not mention that my car has any
recall.

I remember reading the papers on this recall. Is my car excempted? Since I
got the car 8 months ago, I notice that from first to second gear seems to
be a "jump" or a gear grind just small enough to feel vibration on the
gas pedal. This normally occurs on "cold" start. I do not notice this
during very hot summer days.

What are the symptoms to watch for?

Tom

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<d2022841a953f72c7d3fd0287207db50@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> I have a 2004 Accord EX v6 but I have not receive a recall notice. I
> checked the Honda's ownerlink and it does not mention that my car has any
> recall.
>
> I remember reading the papers on this recall. Is my car excempted? Since I
> got the car 8 months ago, I notice that from first to second gear seems to
> be a "jump" or a gear grind just small enough to feel vibration on the
> gas pedal. This normally occurs on "cold" start. I do not notice this
> during very hot summer days.
>
> What are the symptoms to watch for?
>
> Tom

very few of the 04s were affected, i understand they got it sorted out
in production in sept of 03.
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<d2022841a953f72c7d3fd0287207db50@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> I have a 2004 Accord EX v6 but I have not receive a recall notice. I
> checked the Honda's ownerlink and it does not mention that my car has any
> recall.
>
> I remember reading the papers on this recall. Is my car excempted? Since I
> got the car 8 months ago, I notice that from first to second gear seems to
> be a "jump" or a gear grind just small enough to feel vibration on the
> gas pedal. This normally occurs on "cold" start. I do not notice this
> during very hot summer days.
>
> What are the symptoms to watch for?
>
> Tom

very few of the 04s were affected, i understand they got it sorted out
in production in sept of 03.
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

In article <5ddcea74.0408161813.2a15da09@posting.google.com >,
chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote:

> "Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<d2022841a953f72c7d3fd0287207db50@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> > I have a 2004 Accord EX v6 but I have not receive a recall notice. I
> > checked the Honda's ownerlink and it does not mention that my car has any
> > recall.
> >
> > I remember reading the papers on this recall. Is my car excempted? Since I
> > got the car 8 months ago, I notice that from first to second gear seems to
> > be a "jump" or a gear grind just small enough to feel vibration on the
> > gas pedal. This normally occurs on "cold" start. I do not notice this
> > during very hot summer days.
> >
> > What are the symptoms to watch for?
> >
> > Tom
>
> very few of the 04s were affected, i understand they got it sorted out
> in production in sept of 03.
> Chip

If you are referring to the same recall that was mentioned in the
newspapers a couple of weeks ago--it involved the instrument panels dimmer
control. It failed in some cars due to heat build up. The Honda dealership
can check your Honda on their data base and tell you if it's effected by
the recall.

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Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

In article <5ddcea74.0408161813.2a15da09@posting.google.com >,
chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote:

> "Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<d2022841a953f72c7d3fd0287207db50@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> > I have a 2004 Accord EX v6 but I have not receive a recall notice. I
> > checked the Honda's ownerlink and it does not mention that my car has any
> > recall.
> >
> > I remember reading the papers on this recall. Is my car excempted? Since I
> > got the car 8 months ago, I notice that from first to second gear seems to
> > be a "jump" or a gear grind just small enough to feel vibration on the
> > gas pedal. This normally occurs on "cold" start. I do not notice this
> > during very hot summer days.
> >
> > What are the symptoms to watch for?
> >
> > Tom
>
> very few of the 04s were affected, i understand they got it sorted out
> in production in sept of 03.
> Chip

If you are referring to the same recall that was mentioned in the
newspapers a couple of weeks ago--it involved the instrument panels dimmer
control. It failed in some cars due to heat build up. The Honda dealership
can check your Honda on their data base and tell you if it's effected by
the recall.

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Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

> If you are referring to the same recall that was mentioned in the
> newspapers a couple of weeks ago--it involved the instrument panels dimmer
> control. It failed in some cars due to heat build up. The Honda dealership
> can check your Honda on their data base and tell you if it's effected by
> the recall.

ia was referrring to the tranny recall on -3-04 accords. you're
talking about the multiplex recall which affected very few earlier
accords. we've seen on in the last 2 months.
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

> If you are referring to the same recall that was mentioned in the
> newspapers a couple of weeks ago--it involved the instrument panels dimmer
> control. It failed in some cars due to heat build up. The Honda dealership
> can check your Honda on their data base and tell you if it's effected by
> the recall.

ia was referrring to the tranny recall on -3-04 accords. you're
talking about the multiplex recall which affected very few earlier
accords. we've seen on in the last 2 months.
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

doesn't matter when he bought it, what's the build date???
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

he bought it this year, doesn't mean it wasn't built last year.
what's the build date??
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

"Tom_Li" <thomasli@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<de70dbe3d573faf87e403c4b8de86aa8@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> Hmm if the transmission recall has been corrected on Sept 2003. Why did
> Hank (original Topic posting) get a recall notice for a car he purchased
> sometime in July (Aug 3 less three weeks).

he bought it this year, doesn't mean it wasn't built last year.
what's the build date??
Chip

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Tom, I purchased a 2004 V6 Accord a week ago. I have experienced the same
thing going from first to second gear. Have you been able to get any
resolution? Honda says that my car already has the fix on it.

My car is in the shop now and I expect that they will say they can't
reproduce it. Let me know if you have had any success getting it
addressed. Thanks

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Tom, I purchased a 2004 V6 Accord a week ago. I have experienced the same
thing going from first to second gear. Have you been able to get any
resolution? Honda says that my car already has the fix on it.

My car is in the shop now and I expect that they will say they can't
reproduce it. Let me know if you have had any success getting it
addressed. Thanks

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Found something on another forum. It appears to be the ABS pump turning on
as you start off. It only happens when I start out in the morning.

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Found something on another forum. It appears to be the ABS pump turning on
as you start off. It only happens when I start out in the morning.

Re: Honda Accord Recall
 

Hi Tom,

I have the same noise that applies under the same conditions. I went to
the dealer twice with no real answer. Several months later a friend of
mine told me that his dealer identified the noise (and vibration) as being
the ABS resetting themselves. I'm not convinced, but we both have the same
car (bought months apart) and have the same quirky noise and feeling. Does
anyone else experience this?