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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
It won't start.

Here are the signs:

1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
conditioning, etc...)
2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
3) It won't take a jump.
4) It will not crank.
5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.

I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
because everything comes on.

Any idea? What could be the problem?

Thanks, well in advance...


Warren L


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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

Timing belt...


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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

Say it isn't so... that is the last thing I would think of.

Really? Thanks!!!


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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

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Say it isn't so... that is the last thing I would think of.

Really? Thanks!!!


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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

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Say it isn't so... that is the last thing I would think of.

Really? Thanks!!!


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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

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Say it isn't so... that is the last thing I would think of.

Really? Thanks!!!


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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

Never know..how many miles? 8 years, that is about due for a timing
belt. But usually the motor will at least crank even it you have a
broken timing belt.... Do you have a factory alarm or aftermarket
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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

Never know..how many miles? 8 years, that is about due for a timing
belt. But usually the motor will at least crank even it you have a
broken timing belt.... Do you have a factory alarm or aftermarket
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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

Never know..how many miles? 8 years, that is about due for a timing
belt. But usually the motor will at least crank even it you have a
broken timing belt.... Do you have a factory alarm or aftermarket
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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

Never know..how many miles? 8 years, that is about due for a timing
belt. But usually the motor will at least crank even it you have a
broken timing belt.... Do you have a factory alarm or aftermarket
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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

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Timing belt...


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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

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Timing belt...


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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:15 AM

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Timing belt...


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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

180k... timing belt was change about 90k ago. I do have a kill switch,
but I didn't check that and can't check for another 7 hours, I'm at
work.

what else could it be?

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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

180k... timing belt was change about 90k ago. I do have a kill switch,
but I didn't check that and can't check for another 7 hours, I'm at
work.

what else could it be?

Thanks!!!


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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

180k... timing belt was change about 90k ago. I do have a kill switch,
but I didn't check that and can't check for another 7 hours, I'm at
work.

what else could it be?

Thanks!!!


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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

180k... timing belt was change about 90k ago. I do have a kill switch,
but I didn't check that and can't check for another 7 hours, I'm at
work.

what else could it be?

Thanks!!!


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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

If you are not hearing clicking when you are turning the key, the it
sounds like possibly a starter kill. Because even when a battery is
all the way dead you will hear clicking. With a starter kill you turn
the key and eveything "pauses"... Let me know what you find.

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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

If you are not hearing clicking when you are turning the key, the it
sounds like possibly a starter kill. Because even when a battery is
all the way dead you will hear clicking. With a starter kill you turn
the key and eveything "pauses"... Let me know what you find.

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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

If you are not hearing clicking when you are turning the key, the it
sounds like possibly a starter kill. Because even when a battery is
all the way dead you will hear clicking. With a starter kill you turn
the key and eveything "pauses"... Let me know what you find.

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SFarris 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

If you are not hearing clicking when you are turning the key, the it
sounds like possibly a starter kill. Because even when a battery is
all the way dead you will hear clicking. With a starter kill you turn
the key and eveything "pauses"... Let me know what you find.

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murrayw 11-18-2003 10:31 AM

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i'll check... thanks!!!


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i'll check... thanks!!!


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'Curly Q. Links' 11-18-2003 12:00 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
murrayw wrote:
>
> For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
> It won't start.
>
> Here are the signs:
>
> 1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
> conditioning, etc...)
> 2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
> 3) It won't take a jump.
> 4) It will not crank.
> 5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
> I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
> because everything comes on.
>
> Any idea? What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks, well in advance...
>
> Warren L
>
> --
> murrayw
> -------------------------


Murrayw,

Your ignition switch may have fallen apart inside. A blown timing belt
won't blow by itself while the care is not running. Timing belt also
won't prevent engine from turning over, nor will it stop your MAIN RELAY
from clicking in and running the fuel pump for two or three seconds when
you turn the key ON.

The fact that boosting didn't make the engine turn over indicates that
your battery connections are likely OK, but your GROUND connection could
be bad...

Don't be too quick to get your timing belt replaced (at least not
without good advice)

'Curly'

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'Curly Q. Links' 11-18-2003 12:00 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
murrayw wrote:
>
> For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
> It won't start.
>
> Here are the signs:
>
> 1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
> conditioning, etc...)
> 2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
> 3) It won't take a jump.
> 4) It will not crank.
> 5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
> I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
> because everything comes on.
>
> Any idea? What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks, well in advance...
>
> Warren L
>
> --
> murrayw
> -------------------------


Murrayw,

Your ignition switch may have fallen apart inside. A blown timing belt
won't blow by itself while the care is not running. Timing belt also
won't prevent engine from turning over, nor will it stop your MAIN RELAY
from clicking in and running the fuel pump for two or three seconds when
you turn the key ON.

The fact that boosting didn't make the engine turn over indicates that
your battery connections are likely OK, but your GROUND connection could
be bad...

Don't be too quick to get your timing belt replaced (at least not
without good advice)

'Curly'

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'Curly Q. Links' 11-18-2003 12:00 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
murrayw wrote:
>
> For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
> It won't start.
>
> Here are the signs:
>
> 1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
> conditioning, etc...)
> 2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
> 3) It won't take a jump.
> 4) It will not crank.
> 5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
> I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
> because everything comes on.
>
> Any idea? What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks, well in advance...
>
> Warren L
>
> --
> murrayw
> -------------------------


Murrayw,

Your ignition switch may have fallen apart inside. A blown timing belt
won't blow by itself while the care is not running. Timing belt also
won't prevent engine from turning over, nor will it stop your MAIN RELAY
from clicking in and running the fuel pump for two or three seconds when
you turn the key ON.

The fact that boosting didn't make the engine turn over indicates that
your battery connections are likely OK, but your GROUND connection could
be bad...

Don't be too quick to get your timing belt replaced (at least not
without good advice)

'Curly'

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'Curly Q. Links' 11-18-2003 12:00 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
murrayw wrote:
>
> For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
> It won't start.
>
> Here are the signs:
>
> 1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
> conditioning, etc...)
> 2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
> 3) It won't take a jump.
> 4) It will not crank.
> 5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
> I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
> because everything comes on.
>
> Any idea? What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks, well in advance...
>
> Warren L
>
> --
> murrayw
> -------------------------


Murrayw,

Your ignition switch may have fallen apart inside. A blown timing belt
won't blow by itself while the care is not running. Timing belt also
won't prevent engine from turning over, nor will it stop your MAIN RELAY
from clicking in and running the fuel pump for two or three seconds when
you turn the key ON.

The fact that boosting didn't make the engine turn over indicates that
your battery connections are likely OK, but your GROUND connection could
be bad...

Don't be too quick to get your timing belt replaced (at least not
without good advice)

'Curly'

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Me 11-18-2003 12:19 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:15:31 GMT, murrayw
<murrayw.x3i30@realcaraudio.com> wrote:

>
>For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
>It won't start.
>
>Here are the signs:
>
>1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
>conditioning, etc...)
>2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
>3) It won't take a jump.
>4) It will not crank.
>5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
>I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
>because everything comes on.
>
>Any idea? What could be the problem?


My 1994 Civic DX did exactly what you're saying, and it was the
battery. I drove it home just fine, and 3 hours later, it wouldn't
start. Radio worked, lights worked (dimly), but the fuel pump didn't
cycle and the car wouldn't even click. Autozone's tester tested the
battery bad in about 20 seconds (even though the guy in front of me
took 20 minutes for it to say charge and try again). Replaced the
battery, all has been fine for a year.

Nate

Me 11-18-2003 12:19 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:15:31 GMT, murrayw
<murrayw.x3i30@realcaraudio.com> wrote:

>
>For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
>It won't start.
>
>Here are the signs:
>
>1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
>conditioning, etc...)
>2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
>3) It won't take a jump.
>4) It will not crank.
>5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
>I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
>because everything comes on.
>
>Any idea? What could be the problem?


My 1994 Civic DX did exactly what you're saying, and it was the
battery. I drove it home just fine, and 3 hours later, it wouldn't
start. Radio worked, lights worked (dimly), but the fuel pump didn't
cycle and the car wouldn't even click. Autozone's tester tested the
battery bad in about 20 seconds (even though the guy in front of me
took 20 minutes for it to say charge and try again). Replaced the
battery, all has been fine for a year.

Nate

Me 11-18-2003 12:19 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:15:31 GMT, murrayw
<murrayw.x3i30@realcaraudio.com> wrote:

>
>For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
>It won't start.
>
>Here are the signs:
>
>1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
>conditioning, etc...)
>2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
>3) It won't take a jump.
>4) It will not crank.
>5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
>I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
>because everything comes on.
>
>Any idea? What could be the problem?


My 1994 Civic DX did exactly what you're saying, and it was the
battery. I drove it home just fine, and 3 hours later, it wouldn't
start. Radio worked, lights worked (dimly), but the fuel pump didn't
cycle and the car wouldn't even click. Autozone's tester tested the
battery bad in about 20 seconds (even though the guy in front of me
took 20 minutes for it to say charge and try again). Replaced the
battery, all has been fine for a year.

Nate

Me 11-18-2003 12:19 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:15:31 GMT, murrayw
<murrayw.x3i30@realcaraudio.com> wrote:

>
>For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
>It won't start.
>
>Here are the signs:
>
>1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
>conditioning, etc...)
>2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
>3) It won't take a jump.
>4) It will not crank.
>5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
>I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
>because everything comes on.
>
>Any idea? What could be the problem?


My 1994 Civic DX did exactly what you're saying, and it was the
battery. I drove it home just fine, and 3 hours later, it wouldn't
start. Radio worked, lights worked (dimly), but the fuel pump didn't
cycle and the car wouldn't even click. Autozone's tester tested the
battery bad in about 20 seconds (even though the guy in front of me
took 20 minutes for it to say charge and try again). Replaced the
battery, all has been fine for a year.

Nate

SFarris 11-18-2003 12:30 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

How would an ignition switch just fall apart with the car just sitting
there... going with your theory???


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SFarris 11-18-2003 12:30 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

How would an ignition switch just fall apart with the car just sitting
there... going with your theory???


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SFarris 11-18-2003 12:30 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

How would an ignition switch just fall apart with the car just sitting
there... going with your theory???


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SFarris 11-18-2003 12:30 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 

How would an ignition switch just fall apart with the car just sitting
there... going with your theory???


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Scott MacLean 11-18-2003 12:51 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
Here's what I would check, in order:

1. Check the voltage of the battery WHILE you attempt to start it. If it
drops down well below 10 volts,with still no click from the starter, replace
the battery. Not likely this, seeing as it won't take a jump.

2. Check the ground from the battery to the car.

3. Check the voltage at the solenoid while you attempt to start it. If there
is a good 12 volts there, but no click, pull the starter.

4. If there is no power at the solenoid, start checking fuses/fusible links.

5. If the fuses/fusible links check OK, check the ignition switch.

"murrayw" <murrayw.x3i30@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
> It won't start.
>
> Here are the signs:
>
> 1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
> conditioning, etc...)
> 2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
> 3) It won't take a jump.
> 4) It will not crank.
> 5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
> I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
> because everything comes on.
>
> Any idea? What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks, well in advance...
>
>
> Warren L
>
>
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Scott MacLean 11-18-2003 12:51 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
Here's what I would check, in order:

1. Check the voltage of the battery WHILE you attempt to start it. If it
drops down well below 10 volts,with still no click from the starter, replace
the battery. Not likely this, seeing as it won't take a jump.

2. Check the ground from the battery to the car.

3. Check the voltage at the solenoid while you attempt to start it. If there
is a good 12 volts there, but no click, pull the starter.

4. If there is no power at the solenoid, start checking fuses/fusible links.

5. If the fuses/fusible links check OK, check the ignition switch.

"murrayw" <murrayw.x3i30@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
> It won't start.
>
> Here are the signs:
>
> 1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
> conditioning, etc...)
> 2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
> 3) It won't take a jump.
> 4) It will not crank.
> 5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
> I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
> because everything comes on.
>
> Any idea? What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks, well in advance...
>
>
> Warren L
>
>
> --
> murrayw
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Scott MacLean 11-18-2003 12:51 PM

Re: Honda Civic 1995 Won't Start
 
Here's what I would check, in order:

1. Check the voltage of the battery WHILE you attempt to start it. If it
drops down well below 10 volts,with still no click from the starter, replace
the battery. Not likely this, seeing as it won't take a jump.

2. Check the ground from the battery to the car.

3. Check the voltage at the solenoid while you attempt to start it. If there
is a good 12 volts there, but no click, pull the starter.

4. If there is no power at the solenoid, start checking fuses/fusible links.

5. If the fuses/fusible links check OK, check the ignition switch.

"murrayw" <murrayw.x3i30@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> For the first time in 8 years, my Honda 1995 Civic EX disappointed me.
> It won't start.
>
> Here are the signs:
>
> 1) All electrical components work (radio, lights, dashboard, air
> conditioning, etc...)
> 2) I do not hear the clicks as I turn the key.
> 3) It won't take a jump.
> 4) It will not crank.
> 5) It had been sitting for two days, which is typical.
>
> I'm not a mechanic, but to me all signs do not point to the battery
> because everything comes on.
>
> Any idea? What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks, well in advance...
>
>
> Warren L
>
>
> --
> murrayw
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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