Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

In article <88ednTuEeI8Hpg7eRVn-iQ@sedona.net>,
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

> My partner worked at a Discount Tire when he was young and absolutely rails
> about the folly of putting tire pressures in the owner's manual.

Ah. Now that I can consider the source, that your ramblings are insane
at least makes sense.

Discount Tire. Yep.

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-D2DEDA.15072704122005@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <88ednTuEeI8Hpg7eRVn-iQ@sedona.net>,
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>> My partner worked at a Discount Tire when he was young and absolutely
>> rails
>> about the folly of putting tire pressures in the owner's manual.
>
> Ah. Now that I can consider the source, that your ramblings are insane
> at least makes sense.
>
> Discount Tire. Yep.
>
And your source is better?

Mike

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

In article <XP6dnaiDQtib4A7eRVn-pg@sedona.net>,
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

> > Discount Tire. Yep.
> >
> And your source is better?

Than some guy who worked at Discount Tire?

It's not hard to get better than that.

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-8B871E.19414004122005@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <XP6dnaiDQtib4A7eRVn-pg@sedona.net>,
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>> > Discount Tire. Yep.
>> >
>> And your source is better?
>
> Than some guy who worked at Discount Tire?
>
> It's not hard to get better than that.
>
You are certainly free to do what you want. The numbers in the owner's
manual are not going to be dangerously far off for any tire that is suited
to the car, so go for it.

But I'm sure you understand that I will take the advice of the tire chain
that has given me first class service for decades over your advice, your
prejudices notwithstanding. And the "some guy" has proven his overall
competence to me many times over the years while you are a variable source
of opinion, so we are separating on this one.

Mike

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

In article <RrGdnRyrYvhwCw7enZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@sedona.net>,
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

> But I'm sure you understand that I will take the advice of the tire chain
> that has given me first class service for decades

Discount Tire.

Let me guess: you take your engine advice from Jiffy Lube.

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <RrGdnRyrYvhwCw7enZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@sedona.net>,
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>> But I'm sure you understand that I will take the advice of the tire chain
>> that has given me first class service for decades
>
> Discount Tire.
>
> Let me guess: you take your engine advice from Jiffy Lube.
>
Very droll. As I say, no accounting for your prejudices... and still you
offer no support for them. You are diminishing yourself in my eyes.

Mike

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

In article <SomdnQduBuD9Xg7enZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@sedona.net>,
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

> > Discount Tire.
> >
> > Let me guess: you take your engine advice from Jiffy Lube.
> >
> Very droll. As I say, no accounting for your prejudices... and still you
> offer no support for them.

I don't have to. I know the facts.

And one fact I know is, you take your advice from some guy who used to
work at Discount Tire--and you claim it to be the gospel.

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-E79C2F.06062605122005@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <SomdnQduBuD9Xg7enZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@sedona.net>,
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>> Very droll. As I say, no accounting for your prejudices... and still you
>> offer no support for them.
>
> I don't have to. I know the facts.
>
> And one fact I know is, you take your advice from some guy who used to
> work at Discount Tire--and you claim it to be the gospel.
>
As I pointed out, that "some guy" is my partner of 5 years. I have had good
advice and stellar support from various stores in the Discount Tire chain
for more than 20 years. In that time, I have seen or heard no complaints I
can recall regarding Discount Tire. I have had exactly one in all these
years: the mechanic failed to tighten the lug nuts on a wheel after a
repair. And I never presented it as gospel, just as the most reliable info I
had available.

I don't know what you have against Discount Tire, and you still don't say -
only that you "have the facts" you don't see fit to share. You don't know my
partner but you assume he is less competent than you, particularly in the
field of tires, a premise I find laughable. So who would you have me go
with - somebody who has earned my trust or some random anonymous guy who
offers no support for his ravings? Maybe I should listen to Alex, the
"Toyota kills" guy, because he has less going for him than you do.

Mike

Re: Honda Civic Hybrid
 

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:58:13 GMT, "Morgan Groves" <m_groves@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I bought a 2004 Civic Hybrid about a year and a half ago, and have been VERY
>happy with it. At this point, my average mileage, according to the panel
>display is 42 mpg. I use it mostly in town and avoid freeways whenever
>possible. Highway mileage is a bit better if I keep my speed at 65, but
>drops pretty precipitately at speeds over 70.
>
>I'm just wondering how this compares with the experience of other Civic
>Hybrid owners.
>


Traded in an '04 Civic that pretty much ran 10% under the EPA mileages
over the 1.5 year period for an '05 Accord Hybrid w/Navi. Mulitple
tank average of the Civic's mixed local and up
to 900 mile round trips was always over 40. The Accord's multiple
tank averages are running 31 ish.

Wife could not abide the highway 'feel' of the Civic (light-weight
wandering in the lane) nor the 'slipping clutch' characteristic of the
CVT.

I must admit, I LOVE the power of the Accord V6. Has more get up and
get than the non-hybrid V6 and even my old 72 Comet GT with the 302 V8
was a wimp (stock) compared to the Hybrid. Love the 'better' gas
mileage. However, it is truly only an 'ego' or 'status' purchase with
no monetary advantage over a standard vehicle. The premium is too
high to recover unless gas prices get over $20/gal an as for being
"green" the battery disposal is not.

But... you have to breath air, you can bury batteries.