Honda Clutch Kit
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch assemblies
> be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>
Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM, which
will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny bearings
will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
"Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to just go
and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch assemblies
> be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>
Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM, which
will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny bearings
will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
"Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to just go
and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#32
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
"TeGGeRï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï ¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½" wrote:
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:so2Cg.6120$0e5.3171@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
>
>
>> Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
>> "wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
>> plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.
>>
>> But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.
>
>
>
> Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their "stepped"
> surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of every post-1990
> model I've seen so far.
you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
>
>
>
>> My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
>> plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
>> Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.
>
>
>
> The pressure plate has many other points of wear and failure than just the
> friction surface. If you've got a few miles on the car, it does not pay to
> skimp on the pressure plate.
depends on wear. it doesn't pay for a shop not to replace because they
get to sell you more and don't want to worry about returns, but truth
is, if it's in ok condition and you're doing the work yourself, there's
nothing wrong with reuse. sure, it may not last quite as long as a new
one, but on a 300k mile car, what does that matter?
>
>
>
>>> It also beats having to go BACK in
>>> there if.... ;-)
>> Yessir. :-)
>>
>>> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
>>> surprises.No "awshits".
>> Yes, that's making sense to me.
>
>
>
> Once is enough when it's your daily driver. I went OEM for peace-of mind.
>
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:so2Cg.6120$0e5.3171@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
>
>
>> Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
>> "wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
>> plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.
>>
>> But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.
>
>
>
> Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their "stepped"
> surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of every post-1990
> model I've seen so far.
you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
>
>
>
>> My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
>> plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
>> Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.
>
>
>
> The pressure plate has many other points of wear and failure than just the
> friction surface. If you've got a few miles on the car, it does not pay to
> skimp on the pressure plate.
depends on wear. it doesn't pay for a shop not to replace because they
get to sell you more and don't want to worry about returns, but truth
is, if it's in ok condition and you're doing the work yourself, there's
nothing wrong with reuse. sure, it may not last quite as long as a new
one, but on a 300k mile car, what does that matter?
>
>
>
>>> It also beats having to go BACK in
>>> there if.... ;-)
>> Yessir. :-)
>>
>>> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
>>> surprises.No "awshits".
>> Yes, that's making sense to me.
>
>
>
> Once is enough when it's your daily driver. I went OEM for peace-of mind.
>
>
>
#33
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
"TeGGeRï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï ¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½" wrote:
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:so2Cg.6120$0e5.3171@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
>
>
>> Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
>> "wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
>> plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.
>>
>> But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.
>
>
>
> Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their "stepped"
> surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of every post-1990
> model I've seen so far.
you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
>
>
>
>> My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
>> plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
>> Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.
>
>
>
> The pressure plate has many other points of wear and failure than just the
> friction surface. If you've got a few miles on the car, it does not pay to
> skimp on the pressure plate.
depends on wear. it doesn't pay for a shop not to replace because they
get to sell you more and don't want to worry about returns, but truth
is, if it's in ok condition and you're doing the work yourself, there's
nothing wrong with reuse. sure, it may not last quite as long as a new
one, but on a 300k mile car, what does that matter?
>
>
>
>>> It also beats having to go BACK in
>>> there if.... ;-)
>> Yessir. :-)
>>
>>> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
>>> surprises.No "awshits".
>> Yes, that's making sense to me.
>
>
>
> Once is enough when it's your daily driver. I went OEM for peace-of mind.
>
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:so2Cg.6120$0e5.3171@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
>
>
>> Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
>> "wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
>> plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.
>>
>> But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.
>
>
>
> Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their "stepped"
> surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of every post-1990
> model I've seen so far.
you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
>
>
>
>> My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
>> plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
>> Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.
>
>
>
> The pressure plate has many other points of wear and failure than just the
> friction surface. If you've got a few miles on the car, it does not pay to
> skimp on the pressure plate.
depends on wear. it doesn't pay for a shop not to replace because they
get to sell you more and don't want to worry about returns, but truth
is, if it's in ok condition and you're doing the work yourself, there's
nothing wrong with reuse. sure, it may not last quite as long as a new
one, but on a 300k mile car, what does that matter?
>
>
>
>>> It also beats having to go BACK in
>>> there if.... ;-)
>> Yessir. :-)
>>
>>> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
>>> surprises.No "awshits".
>> Yes, that's making sense to me.
>
>
>
> Once is enough when it's your daily driver. I went OEM for peace-of mind.
>
>
>
#34
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
"TeGGeRï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï ¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½" wrote:
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:so2Cg.6120$0e5.3171@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
>
>
>> Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
>> "wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
>> plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.
>>
>> But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.
>
>
>
> Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their "stepped"
> surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of every post-1990
> model I've seen so far.
you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
>
>
>
>> My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
>> plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
>> Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.
>
>
>
> The pressure plate has many other points of wear and failure than just the
> friction surface. If you've got a few miles on the car, it does not pay to
> skimp on the pressure plate.
depends on wear. it doesn't pay for a shop not to replace because they
get to sell you more and don't want to worry about returns, but truth
is, if it's in ok condition and you're doing the work yourself, there's
nothing wrong with reuse. sure, it may not last quite as long as a new
one, but on a 300k mile car, what does that matter?
>
>
>
>>> It also beats having to go BACK in
>>> there if.... ;-)
>> Yessir. :-)
>>
>>> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
>>> surprises.No "awshits".
>> Yes, that's making sense to me.
>
>
>
> Once is enough when it's your daily driver. I went OEM for peace-of mind.
>
>
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:so2Cg.6120$0e5.3171@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
>
>
>> Well sure, but I was thinking the disc is made up of
>> "wearable" material, whereas the flywheel and pressure
>> plates are harder. Kinda like brake pads vs. rotors.
>>
>> But rotors do get replaced/resurfaced.
>
>
>
> Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their "stepped"
> surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of every post-1990
> model I've seen so far.
you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
>
>
>
>> My misconception. If it's S.O.P. to replace the pressure
>> plate, I will, some several years down the road when my 91
>> Civic's clutch actually starts slipping.
>
>
>
> The pressure plate has many other points of wear and failure than just the
> friction surface. If you've got a few miles on the car, it does not pay to
> skimp on the pressure plate.
depends on wear. it doesn't pay for a shop not to replace because they
get to sell you more and don't want to worry about returns, but truth
is, if it's in ok condition and you're doing the work yourself, there's
nothing wrong with reuse. sure, it may not last quite as long as a new
one, but on a 300k mile car, what does that matter?
>
>
>
>>> It also beats having to go BACK in
>>> there if.... ;-)
>> Yessir. :-)
>>
>>> OEM does suggest that the parts will fit with no
>>> surprises.No "awshits".
>> Yes, that's making sense to me.
>
>
>
> Once is enough when it's your daily driver. I went OEM for peace-of mind.
>
>
>
#35
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>
>>
>> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch
>> assemblies be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>>
>
>
> Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM,
> which will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny
> bearings will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
>
> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>
I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and full-race.
I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>
>>
>> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch
>> assemblies be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>>
>
>
> Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM,
> which will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny
> bearings will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
>
> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>
I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and full-race.
I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
#36
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>
>>
>> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch
>> assemblies be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>>
>
>
> Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM,
> which will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny
> bearings will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
>
> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>
I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and full-race.
I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>
>>
>> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch
>> assemblies be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>>
>
>
> Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM,
> which will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny
> bearings will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
>
> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>
I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and full-race.
I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
#37
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>
>>
>> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch
>> assemblies be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>>
>
>
> Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM,
> which will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny
> bearings will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
>
> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>
I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and full-race.
I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9819722FD4A3Djyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>
>>
>> Wouldn't some reputable high-performance aftermarket clutch
>> assemblies be better than OEM? (Not full-race" clutches)
>>
>
>
> Watch those. I understand they are often much more abrupt than OEM,
> which will make it very difficult to get a smooth shift. Your tranny
> bearings will suffer reduced life in the bargain.
>
> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>
I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and full-race.
I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
#38
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>
>
> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>
Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
Full-race clutches have no marcel.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>
>
> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>
Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
Full-race clutches have no marcel.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#39
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>
>
> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>
Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
Full-race clutches have no marcel.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>
>
> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>
Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
Full-race clutches have no marcel.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#40
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>
>
> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>
Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
Full-race clutches have no marcel.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>
>
> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>
Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
Full-race clutches have no marcel.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#41
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
jim beam wrote:
> >
> > Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their
> > "stepped" surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of
> > every post-1990 model I've seen so far.
>
> you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
> what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
Well, "rarely done" may mean that it's rarely done by the lower end repair
shops. It's fairly common practice in the shops that I've worked in and
others I'm familiar with. In one particular shop, we would machine the
flywheels (including the step) on our brake lathe. They came out fine. Of
course, it could also mean we used a better brake lathe than some other
places.
Eric
> >
> > Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their
> > "stepped" surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of
> > every post-1990 model I've seen so far.
>
> you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
> what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
Well, "rarely done" may mean that it's rarely done by the lower end repair
shops. It's fairly common practice in the shops that I've worked in and
others I'm familiar with. In one particular shop, we would machine the
flywheels (including the step) on our brake lathe. They came out fine. Of
course, it could also mean we used a better brake lathe than some other
places.
Eric
#42
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
jim beam wrote:
> >
> > Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their
> > "stepped" surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of
> > every post-1990 model I've seen so far.
>
> you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
> what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
Well, "rarely done" may mean that it's rarely done by the lower end repair
shops. It's fairly common practice in the shops that I've worked in and
others I'm familiar with. In one particular shop, we would machine the
flywheels (including the step) on our brake lathe. They came out fine. Of
course, it could also mean we used a better brake lathe than some other
places.
Eric
> >
> > Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their
> > "stepped" surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of
> > every post-1990 model I've seen so far.
>
> you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
> what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
Well, "rarely done" may mean that it's rarely done by the lower end repair
shops. It's fairly common practice in the shops that I've worked in and
others I'm familiar with. In one particular shop, we would machine the
flywheels (including the step) on our brake lathe. They came out fine. Of
course, it could also mean we used a better brake lathe than some other
places.
Eric
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
jim beam wrote:
> >
> > Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their
> > "stepped" surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of
> > every post-1990 model I've seen so far.
>
> you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
> what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
Well, "rarely done" may mean that it's rarely done by the lower end repair
shops. It's fairly common practice in the shops that I've worked in and
others I'm familiar with. In one particular shop, we would machine the
flywheels (including the step) on our brake lathe. They came out fine. Of
course, it could also mean we used a better brake lathe than some other
places.
Eric
> >
> > Honda does not recommend machining flywheels on account of their
> > "stepped" surface. It says this in the "Specifications" section of
> > every post-1990 model I've seen so far.
>
> you can machine if you do the step as well. rarely done though from
> what i've seen. personally, i won't machine unless badly scored.
>
Well, "rarely done" may mean that it's rarely done by the lower end repair
shops. It's fairly common practice in the shops that I've worked in and
others I'm familiar with. In one particular shop, we would machine the
flywheels (including the step) on our brake lathe. They came out fine. Of
course, it could also mean we used a better brake lathe than some other
places.
Eric
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:21:32 +0000 (UTC), TeGGeR® wrote:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>>>
>>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>>
>>
>> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
>> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>>
>
>
> Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
> 1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
> trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
>
> Full-race clutches have no marcel.
I am just getting used to the clutch on the 06 Si, which often gives me a
chirp on 1st and 2nd. Is the stock clutch for these more high-performance
than normal, or is it just my learning curve? ;-)
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> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>>>
>>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>>
>>
>> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
>> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>>
>
>
> Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
> 1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
> trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
>
> Full-race clutches have no marcel.
I am just getting used to the clutch on the 06 Si, which often gives me a
chirp on 1st and 2nd. Is the stock clutch for these more high-performance
than normal, or is it just my learning curve? ;-)
--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/11/2006 1:27:20 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/
A pipe gives a wise man time to think and a fool something to stick in
his mouth. -- Anonymous
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Re: Honda Clutch Kit
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:21:32 +0000 (UTC), TeGGeR® wrote:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>>>
>>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>>
>>
>> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
>> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>>
>
>
> Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
> 1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
> trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
>
> Full-race clutches have no marcel.
I am just getting used to the clutch on the 06 Si, which often gives me a
chirp on 1st and 2nd. Is the stock clutch for these more high-performance
than normal, or is it just my learning curve? ;-)
--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/11/2006 1:27:20 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/
A pipe gives a wise man time to think and a fool something to stick in
his mouth. -- Anonymous
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns981A75BECC195jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns9819D6D076tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>>>
>>> "Performance" clutches are OK if you're racing and expect to tear
>>> everything apart frequently. For a daily driver that's expected to
>>> just go and go, they appear to be a poor choice.
>>>
>>
>> I've noticed they come in at least three levels;hi-perf,race,and
>> full-race. I'd expect the race clutches to be abrupt.
>>
>
>
> Doesn't take much. When your OEM marcel is 1/16" and the "hi-perf" one is
> 1/32", take-up will be far more abrupt than you're used to. You'll have
> trouble achieving a chirp-free launch.
>
> Full-race clutches have no marcel.
I am just getting used to the clutch on the 06 Si, which often gives me a
chirp on 1st and 2nd. Is the stock clutch for these more high-performance
than normal, or is it just my learning curve? ;-)
--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/11/2006 1:27:20 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/
A pipe gives a wise man time to think and a fool something to stick in
his mouth. -- Anonymous