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Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
TomP wrote:
> All current model Honda's turn the A/C compressor off during spirited > acceleration. The Myth Busters proved that car's get better mileage with > the A/C on and windows closed. First, you can save even more gas by turning the A/C off during normal acceleration, not just "spirited." Second, the A/C uses more power than just the ventilation system, with the windows closed. I don't believe anyone mentioned driving with the windows open. If you leave the A/C on and the windows closed and think that's enough, you'll lose 2-5 MPG. depending on driving conditions. > > "mjc13" wrote: > > >>lymecheck@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>I bought a 07 Honda Fit Sport version in April and so far, am only >>>averaging 22 mpg. This is mainly surface street driving with 60 mile >>>round trips each weekend. About 3/4 of total driving has been with a/ >>>c fan speed #2 or 3. >>> >>>Can this be normal? I don't normally use the paddle shifters, but >>>thinking that would help some. >>> >> >> Try switching the A/C off to accelerate, leaving it on when >>cruising, braking and stopped. Also try being a little more gentle with >>the throttle; speed isn't as important as how hard you accelerate. > > > -- > Tp, > > -------- __o > ----- -\<. -------- __o > --- ( )/ ( ) ---- -\<. > -------------------- ( )/ ( ) > ----------------------------------------- > > No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron... > > |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:23:50 GMT, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
<"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote: >TomP wrote: >> All current model Honda's turn the A/C compressor off during spirited >> acceleration. The Myth Busters proved that car's get better mileage with >> the A/C on and windows closed. Actually, that was the result of the computer indicated mileage which found the AC had no effect at all. When they actually drove the SUVs, the one with the AC on ran out of fuel first. http://cartalk.com/board/showthreade...60&page=6&vc=1 > First, you can save even more gas by turning the A/C off during >normal acceleration, not just "spirited." Second, the A/C uses more >power than just the ventilation system, with the windows closed. I don't >believe anyone mentioned driving with the windows open. If you leave the >A/C on and the windows closed and think that's enough, you'll lose 2-5 >MPG. depending on driving conditions. I tested my '98 Odyssey with A/C vs. windows partway down at 75mph and posted the results in this newsgroup about a year ago. I found that the A/C reduced fuel economy by about 6% vs. 2% for partially lowering the windows. (I only lowered the windows part way because there was too much turbulence lowering them all the way.) |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:23:50 GMT, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
<"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote: >TomP wrote: >> All current model Honda's turn the A/C compressor off during spirited >> acceleration. The Myth Busters proved that car's get better mileage with >> the A/C on and windows closed. Actually, that was the result of the computer indicated mileage which found the AC had no effect at all. When they actually drove the SUVs, the one with the AC on ran out of fuel first. http://cartalk.com/board/showthreade...60&page=6&vc=1 > First, you can save even more gas by turning the A/C off during >normal acceleration, not just "spirited." Second, the A/C uses more >power than just the ventilation system, with the windows closed. I don't >believe anyone mentioned driving with the windows open. If you leave the >A/C on and the windows closed and think that's enough, you'll lose 2-5 >MPG. depending on driving conditions. I tested my '98 Odyssey with A/C vs. windows partway down at 75mph and posted the results in this newsgroup about a year ago. I found that the A/C reduced fuel economy by about 6% vs. 2% for partially lowering the windows. (I only lowered the windows part way because there was too much turbulence lowering them all the way.) |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:23:50 GMT, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
<"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote: >TomP wrote: >> All current model Honda's turn the A/C compressor off during spirited >> acceleration. The Myth Busters proved that car's get better mileage with >> the A/C on and windows closed. Actually, that was the result of the computer indicated mileage which found the AC had no effect at all. When they actually drove the SUVs, the one with the AC on ran out of fuel first. http://cartalk.com/board/showthreade...60&page=6&vc=1 > First, you can save even more gas by turning the A/C off during >normal acceleration, not just "spirited." Second, the A/C uses more >power than just the ventilation system, with the windows closed. I don't >believe anyone mentioned driving with the windows open. If you leave the >A/C on and the windows closed and think that's enough, you'll lose 2-5 >MPG. depending on driving conditions. I tested my '98 Odyssey with A/C vs. windows partway down at 75mph and posted the results in this newsgroup about a year ago. I found that the A/C reduced fuel economy by about 6% vs. 2% for partially lowering the windows. (I only lowered the windows part way because there was too much turbulence lowering them all the way.) |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:23:50 GMT, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" > <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote: > > >>TomP wrote: >> >>>All current model Honda's turn the A/C compressor off during spirited >>>acceleration. The Myth Busters proved that car's get better mileage with >>>the A/C on and windows closed. > > > Actually, that was the result of the computer indicated mileage which > found the AC had no effect at all. When they actually drove the SUVs, > the one with the AC on ran out of fuel first. > > http://cartalk.com/board/showthreade...60&page=6&vc=1 > > >> First, you can save even more gas by turning the A/C off during >>normal acceleration, not just "spirited." Second, the A/C uses more >>power than just the ventilation system, with the windows closed. I don't >>believe anyone mentioned driving with the windows open. If you leave the >>A/C on and the windows closed and think that's enough, you'll lose 2-5 >>MPG. depending on driving conditions. > > > I tested my '98 Odyssey with A/C vs. windows partway down at 75mph and > posted the results in this newsgroup about a year ago. I found that > the A/C reduced fuel economy by about 6% vs. 2% for partially lowering > the windows. (I only lowered the windows part way because there was > too much turbulence lowering them all the way.) > Sounds reasonable. And you usually need to just lower one window partway to greatly enhance the ventilation... |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:23:50 GMT, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" > <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote: > > >>TomP wrote: >> >>>All current model Honda's turn the A/C compressor off during spirited >>>acceleration. The Myth Busters proved that car's get better mileage with >>>the A/C on and windows closed. > > > Actually, that was the result of the computer indicated mileage which > found the AC had no effect at all. When they actually drove the SUVs, > the one with the AC on ran out of fuel first. > > http://cartalk.com/board/showthreade...60&page=6&vc=1 > > >> First, you can save even more gas by turning the A/C off during >>normal acceleration, not just "spirited." Second, the A/C uses more >>power than just the ventilation system, with the windows closed. I don't >>believe anyone mentioned driving with the windows open. If you leave the >>A/C on and the windows closed and think that's enough, you'll lose 2-5 >>MPG. depending on driving conditions. > > > I tested my '98 Odyssey with A/C vs. windows partway down at 75mph and > posted the results in this newsgroup about a year ago. I found that > the A/C reduced fuel economy by about 6% vs. 2% for partially lowering > the windows. (I only lowered the windows part way because there was > too much turbulence lowering them all the way.) > Sounds reasonable. And you usually need to just lower one window partway to greatly enhance the ventilation... |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:23:50 GMT, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>" > <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote: > > >>TomP wrote: >> >>>All current model Honda's turn the A/C compressor off during spirited >>>acceleration. The Myth Busters proved that car's get better mileage with >>>the A/C on and windows closed. > > > Actually, that was the result of the computer indicated mileage which > found the AC had no effect at all. When they actually drove the SUVs, > the one with the AC on ran out of fuel first. > > http://cartalk.com/board/showthreade...60&page=6&vc=1 > > >> First, you can save even more gas by turning the A/C off during >>normal acceleration, not just "spirited." Second, the A/C uses more >>power than just the ventilation system, with the windows closed. I don't >>believe anyone mentioned driving with the windows open. If you leave the >>A/C on and the windows closed and think that's enough, you'll lose 2-5 >>MPG. depending on driving conditions. > > > I tested my '98 Odyssey with A/C vs. windows partway down at 75mph and > posted the results in this newsgroup about a year ago. I found that > the A/C reduced fuel economy by about 6% vs. 2% for partially lowering > the windows. (I only lowered the windows part way because there was > too much turbulence lowering them all the way.) > Sounds reasonable. And you usually need to just lower one window partway to greatly enhance the ventilation... |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
In article <1184725561.807857.241960@i13g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
lymecheck@hotmail.com wrote: > Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. > 70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get > creamed). That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy shaped vehicles. My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to 70mph. I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and a boxy rear design vehicle. |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
In article <1184725561.807857.241960@i13g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
lymecheck@hotmail.com wrote: > Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. > 70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get > creamed). That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy shaped vehicles. My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to 70mph. I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and a boxy rear design vehicle. |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
In article <1184725561.807857.241960@i13g2000prf.googlegroups .com>,
lymecheck@hotmail.com wrote: > Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. > 70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get > creamed). That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy shaped vehicles. My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to 70mph. I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and a boxy rear design vehicle. |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:34:00 GMT, Josh S <Josh@clean.spam> wrote:
>> Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. >> 70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get >> creamed). > >That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. >Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy >shaped vehicles. >My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to >70mph. >I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and >a boxy rear design vehicle. Mebbe. My 2004 Accord got the same mileage anywhere between 55 and 80, far as I could tell. And my 2007 gets the same, too, just lower. But the Fit does end rather abruptly. J. |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:34:00 GMT, Josh S <Josh@clean.spam> wrote:
>> Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. >> 70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get >> creamed). > >That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. >Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy >shaped vehicles. >My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to >70mph. >I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and >a boxy rear design vehicle. Mebbe. My 2004 Accord got the same mileage anywhere between 55 and 80, far as I could tell. And my 2007 gets the same, too, just lower. But the Fit does end rather abruptly. J. |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:34:00 GMT, Josh S <Josh@clean.spam> wrote:
>> Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. >> 70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get >> creamed). > >That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. >Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy >shaped vehicles. >My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to >70mph. >I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and >a boxy rear design vehicle. Mebbe. My 2004 Accord got the same mileage anywhere between 55 and 80, far as I could tell. And my 2007 gets the same, too, just lower. But the Fit does end rather abruptly. J. |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
JXStern wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:34:00 GMT, Josh S <Josh@clean.spam> wrote: > > >>>Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. >>>70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get >>>creamed). >> >>That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. >>Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy >>shaped vehicles. >>My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to >>70mph. >>I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and >>a boxy rear design vehicle. > > > Mebbe. My 2004 Accord got the same mileage anywhere between 55 and > 80, far as I could tell. And my 2007 gets the same, too, just lower. > But the Fit does end rather abruptly. > > J. > Once again, it's the Fit's gearing. Our Camry sedan (with automatic!) will get close to 40 mpg highway at 65-70 on level ground, but it's loafing along at about 2600 RPM. It's also got a nice, smooth shape. |
Re: Honda Fit Mileage?
JXStern wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:34:00 GMT, Josh S <Josh@clean.spam> wrote: > > >>>Not heavy on accelleration or speed, pretty conserative driver here. >>>70-80 on freeway (this is California, if yu don't keep up, you get >>>creamed). >> >>That's far to fast for good hwy mileage. >>Mileage falls off very rapidly over 60 mph, particularly with boxy >>shaped vehicles. >>My well shaped mid sized car's mileage drops 10% going from 60mph to >>70mph. >>I would expect a greater than 10% mileage drop with a smaller engine and >>a boxy rear design vehicle. > > > Mebbe. My 2004 Accord got the same mileage anywhere between 55 and > 80, far as I could tell. And my 2007 gets the same, too, just lower. > But the Fit does end rather abruptly. > > J. > Once again, it's the Fit's gearing. Our Camry sedan (with automatic!) will get close to 40 mpg highway at 65-70 on level ground, but it's loafing along at about 2600 RPM. It's also got a nice, smooth shape. |
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