Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
resolve.

The symptoms are
* noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
miles or so (now at 80K).
* bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
road.
* drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
like hydroplaning.

30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.

Tire info:
* I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
first set of Peerless replacement tires.
* I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
* When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.

Thoughts?
-dan

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

On Aug 1, 12:09 pm, djh <danjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

What in blaze are Peerless tires? Are you maybe refering to Pirellis?

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

On Aug 1, 12:09 pm, djh <danjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

What in blaze are Peerless tires? Are you maybe refering to Pirellis?

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

On Aug 1, 12:09 pm, djh <danjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

What in blaze are Peerless tires? Are you maybe refering to Pirellis?

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
Peerless is name of the tire store.

Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
-dan

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
Peerless is name of the tire store.

Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
-dan

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
Peerless is name of the tire store.

Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
-dan

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

"djh" <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan
>
You might see some of those problems if your tires were seriously
overinflated. That happened to me recently when I had some work done on my
Accord. Have you checked your tire pressures?

If you end up replacing your tires, FWIW, I like the Goodrich Traction T/As
on my '01 Odyssey.

Paul

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

"djh" <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan
>
You might see some of those problems if your tires were seriously
overinflated. That happened to me recently when I had some work done on my
Accord. Have you checked your tire pressures?

If you end up replacing your tires, FWIW, I like the Goodrich Traction T/As
on my '01 Odyssey.

Paul

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

"djh" <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan
>
You might see some of those problems if your tires were seriously
overinflated. That happened to me recently when I had some work done on my
Accord. Have you checked your tire pressures?

If you end up replacing your tires, FWIW, I like the Goodrich Traction T/As
on my '01 Odyssey.

Paul

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?

Possibly.
> -dan
>

how about worn or hardened bushings in the suspension?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?

Possibly.
> -dan
>

how about worn or hardened bushings in the suspension?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?

Possibly.
> -dan
>

how about worn or hardened bushings in the suspension?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

On Aug 1, 12:09 pm, djh <danjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

I'm not sure what diagnostics they could run that would help them
determine what is the issue with the suspension or tires.... It sure
sounds like bushings/tie rods/etc. Did you have an alignment done when
you got the new tires? An out-of-alignment condition could definitely
cause uneven wear. You may also want to rotate the tires around, see
if perhaps an out-of-round tire or wheel is the cause. You didn't say
if the condition persists with the new tires; I'm assuming it does.

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

On Aug 1, 12:09 pm, djh <danjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

I'm not sure what diagnostics they could run that would help them
determine what is the issue with the suspension or tires.... It sure
sounds like bushings/tie rods/etc. Did you have an alignment done when
you got the new tires? An out-of-alignment condition could definitely
cause uneven wear. You may also want to rotate the tires around, see
if perhaps an out-of-round tire or wheel is the cause. You didn't say
if the condition persists with the new tires; I'm assuming it does.

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA