Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

On Aug 1, 12:09 pm, djh <danjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

I'm not sure what diagnostics they could run that would help them
determine what is the issue with the suspension or tires.... It sure
sounds like bushings/tie rods/etc. Did you have an alignment done when
you got the new tires? An out-of-alignment condition could definitely
cause uneven wear. You may also want to rotate the tires around, see
if perhaps an out-of-round tire or wheel is the cause. You didn't say
if the condition persists with the new tires; I'm assuming it does.

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

In article <1185984542.446858.139460@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

It is absolutely and 100% those tires.

Try a good, name brand and see what happens. Peerless?

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

In article <1185984542.446858.139460@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

It is absolutely and 100% those tires.

Try a good, name brand and see what happens. Peerless?

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

In article <1185984542.446858.139460@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan

It is absolutely and 100% those tires.

Try a good, name brand and see what happens. Peerless?

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

In article <1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegroups .com>,
djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan

Yes.

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

In article <1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegroups .com>,
djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan

Yes.

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

In article <1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegroups .com>,
djh <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan

Yes.

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

I went to www.tirerack.com and I could not find any Bridgestone Insignia
200s listed. I wonder if your brand new tires are old tires from the
warehouse.


"djh" <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan
>

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

I went to www.tirerack.com and I could not find any Bridgestone Insignia
200s listed. I wonder if your brand new tires are old tires from the
warehouse.


"djh" <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan
>

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

I went to www.tirerack.com and I could not find any Bridgestone Insignia
200s listed. I wonder if your brand new tires are old tires from the
warehouse.


"djh" <danjhiggi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185986671.134694.315890@l70g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan
>

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh wrote:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan

Why on earth would one put Insignia's on an Odyssey? I have those on my
Civic, and they are only average. I don't expect them to be any better on
an Odyssey. Insignia's are Bridgestone's cheap entry-level tire.

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh wrote:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan

Why on earth would one put Insignia's on an Odyssey? I have those on my
Civic, and they are only average. I don't expect them to be any better on
an Odyssey. Insignia's are Bridgestone's cheap entry-level tire.

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh wrote:

> My mistake. My tires are Bridgestone Insignia 200s.
> Peerless is name of the tire store.
>
> Do you think tires could be a key factor here?
> -dan

Why on earth would one put Insignia's on an Odyssey? I have those on my
Civic, and they are only average. I don't expect them to be any better on
an Odyssey. Insignia's are Bridgestone's cheap entry-level tire.

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan
>

it could be tires, but before you do anything with them, check the
suspension thoroughly. a broken bushing or frozen ball joint can affect
handling just like you describe.

Re: Honda Odyssey Poor Handling
 

djh wrote:
> I've got a problem w/ my mini-van that I have not been able to
> resolve.
>
> The symptoms are
> * noisy ride - When new, the ride was nice and quiet. For the last 40K
> miles or so (now at 80K).
> * bumpy ride - it feels as though I can feel every slight bump on the
> road.
> * drift - Sometimes the car feels like its briefly drifting (or
> lurching) sideways. Everyday on the way home from work, i hit a couple
> of patches on the groved highway that makes it feel like my car drifts
> several inches to the left when the wheel hit these slight bumps.
> This also happens when I hit a slightly bumpy patch on a turn. It
> feels like the wheels are jiggling so much that they are leaving the
> road and causing me to drift on the dry pavement. It feels a little
> like hydroplaning.
>
> 30K miles ago I had a trusted mechanic look at it and found nothing.
> This week we took it to the Honda dealer. They said that the struts
> and shocks are fine. They want to run diagnostics but I'm reluctant.
>
> Tire info:
> * I suppose its possible that the ride started to deteriorate w/ my
> first set of Peerless replacement tires.
> * I'm currently on a brand new set of Peerless tires.
> * When they replaced them this summer they said that I had unusual
> wear on them. The ride did not improve with the new set of tires.
>
> Thoughts?
> -dan
>

it could be tires, but before you do anything with them, check the
suspension thoroughly. a broken bushing or frozen ball joint can affect
handling just like you describe.