Honda Service Manuals
 

I am the owner of a 1992 Honda Civic VTi.

Does anyone know if any service manuals in English cover this car? As
far as I have been able to tell the car wasn't sold in the UK that
year, so that's not an option. And the Haynes and Chiltons manuals are
oriented for the North American market, so they don't cover the 1595cc
VTEC.

Or, alternately, what combinaion of manuals could I use (in English!)
to service my car?

Thanks folks.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the UK
site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
resources listed
at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .

I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much of
modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from the
Factory Service Manual.




<oz.ortiz@gmail.com> wrote
>I am the owner of a 1992 Honda Civic VTi.
>
> Does anyone know if any service manuals in English cover
> this car? As
> far as I have been able to tell the car wasn't sold in the
> UK that
> year, so that's not an option. And the Haynes and
> Chiltons manuals are
> oriented for the North American market, so they don't
> cover the 1595cc
> VTEC.
>
> Or, alternately, what combinaion of manuals could I use
> (in English!)
> to service my car?
>
> Thanks folks.
>

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the UK
site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
resources listed
at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .

I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much of
modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from the
Factory Service Manual.




<oz.ortiz@gmail.com> wrote
>I am the owner of a 1992 Honda Civic VTi.
>
> Does anyone know if any service manuals in English cover
> this car? As
> far as I have been able to tell the car wasn't sold in the
> UK that
> year, so that's not an option. And the Haynes and
> Chiltons manuals are
> oriented for the North American market, so they don't
> cover the 1595cc
> VTEC.
>
> Or, alternately, what combinaion of manuals could I use
> (in English!)
> to service my car?
>
> Thanks folks.
>

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the UK
site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
resources listed
at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .

I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much of
modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from the
Factory Service Manual.




<oz.ortiz@gmail.com> wrote
>I am the owner of a 1992 Honda Civic VTi.
>
> Does anyone know if any service manuals in English cover
> this car? As
> far as I have been able to tell the car wasn't sold in the
> UK that
> year, so that's not an option. And the Haynes and
> Chiltons manuals are
> oriented for the North American market, so they don't
> cover the 1595cc
> VTEC.
>
> Or, alternately, what combinaion of manuals could I use
> (in English!)
> to service my car?
>
> Thanks folks.
>

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

I never claimed the Chilton's were junk - they just don't cover all the
mechanicals on my car. ;)

Elle wrote:
> I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the UK
> site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
> resources listed
> at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .
>
> I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much of
> modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from the
> Factory Service Manual.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

I never claimed the Chilton's were junk - they just don't cover all the
mechanicals on my car. ;)

Elle wrote:
> I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the UK
> site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
> resources listed
> at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .
>
> I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much of
> modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from the
> Factory Service Manual.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

I never claimed the Chilton's were junk - they just don't cover all the
mechanicals on my car. ;)

Elle wrote:
> I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the UK
> site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
> resources listed
> at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .
>
> I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much of
> modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from the
> Factory Service Manual.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

Pardon my miscommunication. There are a few regulars here
who regularly opine that Chilton's is junk. I think that's
absurd.

I do see the VTEC engine mentioned in a few places in my
1984-1995 Civic/CRX/del Sol manual.

If you care to mention what areas in particular you found
the Chilton's lacking, that might shed more light on whether
you absolutely have to spend the bucks for a Helms manual or
not.

Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm bushing
replacement can now be done with the arm in place.

<oz.ortiz@gmail.com> wrote
>I never claimed the Chilton's were junk - they just don't
>cover all the
> mechanicals on my car. ;)
>
> Elle wrote:
>> I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the
>> UK
>> site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
>> resources listed
>> at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .
>>
>> I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much
>> of
>> modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from
>> the
>> Factory Service Manual.
>

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

Pardon my miscommunication. There are a few regulars here
who regularly opine that Chilton's is junk. I think that's
absurd.

I do see the VTEC engine mentioned in a few places in my
1984-1995 Civic/CRX/del Sol manual.

If you care to mention what areas in particular you found
the Chilton's lacking, that might shed more light on whether
you absolutely have to spend the bucks for a Helms manual or
not.

Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm bushing
replacement can now be done with the arm in place.

<oz.ortiz@gmail.com> wrote
>I never claimed the Chilton's were junk - they just don't
>cover all the
> mechanicals on my car. ;)
>
> Elle wrote:
>> I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the
>> UK
>> site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
>> resources listed
>> at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .
>>
>> I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much
>> of
>> modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from
>> the
>> Factory Service Manual.
>

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

Pardon my miscommunication. There are a few regulars here
who regularly opine that Chilton's is junk. I think that's
absurd.

I do see the VTEC engine mentioned in a few places in my
1984-1995 Civic/CRX/del Sol manual.

If you care to mention what areas in particular you found
the Chilton's lacking, that might shed more light on whether
you absolutely have to spend the bucks for a Helms manual or
not.

Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm bushing
replacement can now be done with the arm in place.

<oz.ortiz@gmail.com> wrote
>I never claimed the Chilton's were junk - they just don't
>cover all the
> mechanicals on my car. ;)
>
> Elle wrote:
>> I have a 91 Civic and use as needed a combination of the
>> UK
>> site's Concerto and CRX manuals and the other online
>> resources listed
>> at http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id9.html .
>>
>> I dispute the claim that Chilton's manuals are junk. Much
>> of
>> modern Chilton's manuals are excerpts (or near so) from
>> the
>> Factory Service Manual.
>

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

Elle wrote:
<snip>
>
> Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm bushing
> replacement can now be done with the arm in place.
>
it's omitted because it's not a factory procedure. factory procedure is
to replace the arm to eliminate risk of it fatiguing as its mileage
increases. it can easily survive the life of one main bushing, but two
is a risk.

that said, i personally always replace the main bushings on any used
honda i buy, but i have two things in my favor:

1. i live in rust-free california.
2. i know what i'm looking at in terms of cracking and stress risers.

a manufacturer can't recommend a procedure to all that only safely
applies to a small subset of users.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

Elle wrote:
<snip>
>
> Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm bushing
> replacement can now be done with the arm in place.
>
it's omitted because it's not a factory procedure. factory procedure is
to replace the arm to eliminate risk of it fatiguing as its mileage
increases. it can easily survive the life of one main bushing, but two
is a risk.

that said, i personally always replace the main bushings on any used
honda i buy, but i have two things in my favor:

1. i live in rust-free california.
2. i know what i'm looking at in terms of cracking and stress risers.

a manufacturer can't recommend a procedure to all that only safely
applies to a small subset of users.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

Elle wrote:
<snip>
>
> Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm bushing
> replacement can now be done with the arm in place.
>
it's omitted because it's not a factory procedure. factory procedure is
to replace the arm to eliminate risk of it fatiguing as its mileage
increases. it can easily survive the life of one main bushing, but two
is a risk.

that said, i personally always replace the main bushings on any used
honda i buy, but i have two things in my favor:

1. i live in rust-free california.
2. i know what i'm looking at in terms of cracking and stress risers.

a manufacturer can't recommend a procedure to all that only safely
applies to a small subset of users.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
> Elle wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm
>> bushing replacement can now be done with the arm in
>> place.
>>
> it's omitted because it's not a factory procedure.

Doh.

But fact is, dealerships will replace the trailing arm
bushing and not the trailing arm.

> factory procedure is to replace the arm to eliminate risk
> of it fatiguing as its mileage increases. it can easily
> survive the life of one main bushing, but two is a risk.

In the past I have asked you to cite statements like this,
and you get all upset.

So, no, without a citation, this is just bullshit from a
Usenet poster. And if you get all upset, it's more bullshit.

Re: Honda Service Manuals
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
> Elle wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> Even Helms omits important info. E.g. trailing arm
>> bushing replacement can now be done with the arm in
>> place.
>>
> it's omitted because it's not a factory procedure.

Doh.

But fact is, dealerships will replace the trailing arm
bushing and not the trailing arm.

> factory procedure is to replace the arm to eliminate risk
> of it fatiguing as its mileage increases. it can easily
> survive the life of one main bushing, but two is a risk.

In the past I have asked you to cite statements like this,
and you get all upset.

So, no, without a citation, this is just bullshit from a
Usenet poster. And if you get all upset, it's more bullshit.