Honda vs Toyota ??
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Honda vs Toyota ??
It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired and
need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low cost
maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old also.
I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
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73
Hank WD5JFR
need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low cost
maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old also.
I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
--
73
Hank WD5JFR
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
and
> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
cost
> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
also.
> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
>
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
and
> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
cost
> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
also.
> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
>
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
and
> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
cost
> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
also.
> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
>
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
and
> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
cost
> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
also.
> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
>
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
Audi, isn't that a Volkswagen, terrible reliability.
Tom
"ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and
>> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost
>> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
> also.
>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73
>> Hank WD5JFR
>>
>>
>
>
Tom
"ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:clpke.23130$CR5.18828@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and
>> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost
>> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
> also.
>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73
>> Hank WD5JFR
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
Audi, isn't that a Volkswagen, terrible reliability.
Tom
"ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:clpke.23130$CR5.18828@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and
>> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost
>> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
> also.
>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73
>> Hank WD5JFR
>>
>>
>
>
Tom
"ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:clpke.23130$CR5.18828@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and
>> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost
>> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
> also.
>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73
>> Hank WD5JFR
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
On 2005-05-23 kolesnik@sbcglobal.net said:
>Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm
>retired and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are
>reliabliity, low cost maintenance and initial cost. I would
>consider a year or two year old also. I hear of Honda Civics going
>to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is better, the Accord or
>the Camry or did I miss one?
>--
>73
>Hank WD5JFR
Ny '85 Honda Civic wagon is still going strong at 282,956 mi.
Near-identical '84, at 215,459 mi., presently laid-up while I get
around to checking drive-end of cam for suspected cracking, replace
it. (I've had several of these failures - bad design - sharp corner
produces stress concentration cracking. Honda should know better.
Any mechanical designer worth his salt does!)
But... reading what you guys are posting, I'd probably not buy Honda
today - looks like a lot of trouble.
Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around? Had several real
goodies in the '60's. Always lusted for a crew-cab pickup, canoe on
top, dirt bike in the back, junk-yard dog nearby. <G>
Gawd, don't I sound like an old hippie!
Tom Willmon
near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
Bug free, cheap, on time, works. Pick two.
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
On 2005-05-23 kolesnik@sbcglobal.net said:
>Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm
>retired and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are
>reliabliity, low cost maintenance and initial cost. I would
>consider a year or two year old also. I hear of Honda Civics going
>to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is better, the Accord or
>the Camry or did I miss one?
>--
>73
>Hank WD5JFR
Ny '85 Honda Civic wagon is still going strong at 282,956 mi.
Near-identical '84, at 215,459 mi., presently laid-up while I get
around to checking drive-end of cam for suspected cracking, replace
it. (I've had several of these failures - bad design - sharp corner
produces stress concentration cracking. Honda should know better.
Any mechanical designer worth his salt does!)
But... reading what you guys are posting, I'd probably not buy Honda
today - looks like a lot of trouble.
Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around? Had several real
goodies in the '60's. Always lusted for a crew-cab pickup, canoe on
top, dirt bike in the back, junk-yard dog nearby. <G>
Gawd, don't I sound like an old hippie!
Tom Willmon
near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
Bug free, cheap, on time, works. Pick two.
Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
wrote:
> Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
Nope.
In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
car. That's from direct experience.
wrote:
> Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
Nope.
In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
car. That's from direct experience.
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
wrote:
> Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
Nope.
In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
car. That's from direct experience.
wrote:
> Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
Nope.
In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
car. That's from direct experience.
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year
> old also. I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems.
> Which is better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
IMHO either one will be a fine car for you. There has been some concern here
about recent Honda automatic transmissions, but frankly I have no direct
knowledge. It is something to learn about.
Mike (former WA6TDG... many years ago)
news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year
> old also. I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems.
> Which is better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
IMHO either one will be a fine car for you. There has been some concern here
about recent Honda automatic transmissions, but frankly I have no direct
knowledge. It is something to learn about.
Mike (former WA6TDG... many years ago)
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year
> old also. I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems.
> Which is better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
IMHO either one will be a fine car for you. There has been some concern here
about recent Honda automatic transmissions, but frankly I have no direct
knowledge. It is something to learn about.
Mike (former WA6TDG... many years ago)
news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year
> old also. I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems.
> Which is better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
IMHO either one will be a fine car for you. There has been some concern here
about recent Honda automatic transmissions, but frankly I have no direct
knowledge. It is something to learn about.
Mike (former WA6TDG... many years ago)
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
> wrote:
>
>
>>Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
>
>
> Nope.
>
> In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> car. That's from direct experience.
most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
parts extensively. focus, cavalier...
in terms of parts quality, even though i don't care for vw either, their
standards are definitely higher than our domestics.
> In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
> wrote:
>
>
>>Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
>
>
> Nope.
>
> In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> car. That's from direct experience.
most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
parts extensively. focus, cavalier...
in terms of parts quality, even though i don't care for vw either, their
standards are definitely higher than our domestics.
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Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
> wrote:
>
>
>>Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
>
>
> Nope.
>
> In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> car. That's from direct experience.
most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
parts extensively. focus, cavalier...
in terms of parts quality, even though i don't care for vw either, their
standards are definitely higher than our domestics.
> In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
> wrote:
>
>
>>Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?
>
>
> Nope.
>
> In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> car. That's from direct experience.
most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
parts extensively. focus, cavalier...
in terms of parts quality, even though i don't care for vw either, their
standards are definitely higher than our domestics.