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Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
Any ideas what is wrong? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
That is quite odd. I thought right away that perhaps water in the fuel.
But then how much would it take to cause a problem when freezing and how much would it take to become a driveability problem when above freezing. Perhaps a bottle of HEET in the tank might help. Otherwise I fail to see a reason why a freezing temperature would prevent a car from firing. You said it was turning over fine so I assume it is turning over fast enough to start. I believe it has to turn over at minimum rpm to start but I could be wrong. Maybe there are some technical service bulletins about this available at the national highway transportation system or something like that. CaptainKrunch "garyj" <garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote in message news:4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? > |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
That is quite odd. I thought right away that perhaps water in the fuel.
But then how much would it take to cause a problem when freezing and how much would it take to become a driveability problem when above freezing. Perhaps a bottle of HEET in the tank might help. Otherwise I fail to see a reason why a freezing temperature would prevent a car from firing. You said it was turning over fine so I assume it is turning over fast enough to start. I believe it has to turn over at minimum rpm to start but I could be wrong. Maybe there are some technical service bulletins about this available at the national highway transportation system or something like that. CaptainKrunch "garyj" <garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote in message news:4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? > |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
That is quite odd. I thought right away that perhaps water in the fuel.
But then how much would it take to cause a problem when freezing and how much would it take to become a driveability problem when above freezing. Perhaps a bottle of HEET in the tank might help. Otherwise I fail to see a reason why a freezing temperature would prevent a car from firing. You said it was turning over fine so I assume it is turning over fast enough to start. I believe it has to turn over at minimum rpm to start but I could be wrong. Maybe there are some technical service bulletins about this available at the national highway transportation system or something like that. CaptainKrunch "garyj" <garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote in message news:4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? > |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
garyj wrote:
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? ===================== Read the manual. Do the 'lamp test' and listen to the fuel pump charge up the pressure. Push pedal almost to the floor. Start Odyssey. You may have a leaky injector that's flooding your engine overnight. When it did start on the days after it wouldn't start, did it sputter and clatter, then run poorly for the first 20 seconds? That's how our Odyssey ran when the engine got flooded by a leaky injector. Holding the pedal to the floor is OK in a flooded or very COLD engine. Owner's Manual says so. If you have ethanol-enhanced fuel avaiiable (or a can of injector cleaner) try that too. Second guess: If you smelled no fuel from the tailpipe, read this: http://members.rogers.com/john-ings/MainRelay.HTM It's probably one or the other. :-) 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
garyj wrote:
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? ===================== Read the manual. Do the 'lamp test' and listen to the fuel pump charge up the pressure. Push pedal almost to the floor. Start Odyssey. You may have a leaky injector that's flooding your engine overnight. When it did start on the days after it wouldn't start, did it sputter and clatter, then run poorly for the first 20 seconds? That's how our Odyssey ran when the engine got flooded by a leaky injector. Holding the pedal to the floor is OK in a flooded or very COLD engine. Owner's Manual says so. If you have ethanol-enhanced fuel avaiiable (or a can of injector cleaner) try that too. Second guess: If you smelled no fuel from the tailpipe, read this: http://members.rogers.com/john-ings/MainRelay.HTM It's probably one or the other. :-) 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
garyj wrote:
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? ===================== Read the manual. Do the 'lamp test' and listen to the fuel pump charge up the pressure. Push pedal almost to the floor. Start Odyssey. You may have a leaky injector that's flooding your engine overnight. When it did start on the days after it wouldn't start, did it sputter and clatter, then run poorly for the first 20 seconds? That's how our Odyssey ran when the engine got flooded by a leaky injector. Holding the pedal to the floor is OK in a flooded or very COLD engine. Owner's Manual says so. If you have ethanol-enhanced fuel avaiiable (or a can of injector cleaner) try that too. Second guess: If you smelled no fuel from the tailpipe, read this: http://members.rogers.com/john-ings/MainRelay.HTM It's probably one or the other. :-) 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
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<4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "garyj" <garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote: > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? I once lived in the mountains of Virginia and it would get so cold that we always had trouble getting the car started on those cold mornings. One neighbor made use of some sort of electric blanket over the engine. I don't know if they still sell them--they were made especially for cars. If so, they probably sell them in auto parts stores such as NAPA. You might try one to see if it solves your problem. I heard an advertisement on radio for a chemical that you can mix with the gas to prevent cold weather start up problems. While in the auto parts store--you should ask if they have such a product. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
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<4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "garyj" <garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote: > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? I once lived in the mountains of Virginia and it would get so cold that we always had trouble getting the car started on those cold mornings. One neighbor made use of some sort of electric blanket over the engine. I don't know if they still sell them--they were made especially for cars. If so, they probably sell them in auto parts stores such as NAPA. You might try one to see if it solves your problem. I heard an advertisement on radio for a chemical that you can mix with the gas to prevent cold weather start up problems. While in the auto parts store--you should ask if they have such a product. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
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<4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "garyj" <garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote: > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? I once lived in the mountains of Virginia and it would get so cold that we always had trouble getting the car started on those cold mornings. One neighbor made use of some sort of electric blanket over the engine. I don't know if they still sell them--they were made especially for cars. If so, they probably sell them in auto parts stores such as NAPA. You might try one to see if it solves your problem. I heard an advertisement on radio for a chemical that you can mix with the gas to prevent cold weather start up problems. While in the auto parts store--you should ask if they have such a product. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
Newer cars should have no problems starting when it is cold. I live in
Minnesota where is regularly is below zero on January mornings. Other than battery problems, I've never had a problem starting a '90 or later model car. When I moved here in 1980, lots of cars had plugs hanging out of the grill to plug in engine block heaters. Other than up north where it really gets cold, you just don't see those anymore. Certainly a 2000 Odyssey should have no problems simply below freezing. The gas is a possibility, as others have mentioned, though it would seem odd to me that you've not had any other symptoms before now. Fuel pump could be defective and not working properlyl in the colder weather. I had a computer in a Volvo that didn't work correctly when it got cold, but again, that meant below zero. On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:31:43 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom Wilson) wrote: >In article ><4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.talka boutautos.com>, "garyj" ><garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote: > >> I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until >recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. >It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or >fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just >fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All >the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from >exhaust. >> >> Any ideas what is wrong? > >I once lived in the mountains of Virginia and it would get so cold that we >always had trouble getting the car started on those cold mornings. One >neighbor made use of some sort of electric blanket over the engine. I >don't know if they still sell them--they were made especially for cars. If >so, they probably sell them in auto parts stores such as NAPA. You might >try one to see if it solves your problem. I heard an advertisement on >radio for a chemical that you can mix with the gas to prevent cold weather >start up problems. While in the auto parts store--you should ask if they >have such a product. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
Newer cars should have no problems starting when it is cold. I live in
Minnesota where is regularly is below zero on January mornings. Other than battery problems, I've never had a problem starting a '90 or later model car. When I moved here in 1980, lots of cars had plugs hanging out of the grill to plug in engine block heaters. Other than up north where it really gets cold, you just don't see those anymore. Certainly a 2000 Odyssey should have no problems simply below freezing. The gas is a possibility, as others have mentioned, though it would seem odd to me that you've not had any other symptoms before now. Fuel pump could be defective and not working properlyl in the colder weather. I had a computer in a Volvo that didn't work correctly when it got cold, but again, that meant below zero. On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:31:43 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom Wilson) wrote: >In article ><4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.talka boutautos.com>, "garyj" ><garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote: > >> I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until >recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. >It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or >fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just >fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All >the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from >exhaust. >> >> Any ideas what is wrong? > >I once lived in the mountains of Virginia and it would get so cold that we >always had trouble getting the car started on those cold mornings. One >neighbor made use of some sort of electric blanket over the engine. I >don't know if they still sell them--they were made especially for cars. If >so, they probably sell them in auto parts stores such as NAPA. You might >try one to see if it solves your problem. I heard an advertisement on >radio for a chemical that you can mix with the gas to prevent cold weather >start up problems. While in the auto parts store--you should ask if they >have such a product. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
Newer cars should have no problems starting when it is cold. I live in
Minnesota where is regularly is below zero on January mornings. Other than battery problems, I've never had a problem starting a '90 or later model car. When I moved here in 1980, lots of cars had plugs hanging out of the grill to plug in engine block heaters. Other than up north where it really gets cold, you just don't see those anymore. Certainly a 2000 Odyssey should have no problems simply below freezing. The gas is a possibility, as others have mentioned, though it would seem odd to me that you've not had any other symptoms before now. Fuel pump could be defective and not working properlyl in the colder weather. I had a computer in a Volvo that didn't work correctly when it got cold, but again, that meant below zero. On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:31:43 -0800, tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com (Tom Wilson) wrote: >In article ><4a1e25b72d3c37592b211b5469c0ef68@localhost.talka boutautos.com>, "garyj" ><garyj@mybluelight.com> wrote: > >> I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until >recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. >It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or >fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just >fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All >the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from >exhaust. >> >> Any ideas what is wrong? > >I once lived in the mountains of Virginia and it would get so cold that we >always had trouble getting the car started on those cold mornings. One >neighbor made use of some sort of electric blanket over the engine. I >don't know if they still sell them--they were made especially for cars. If >so, they probably sell them in auto parts stores such as NAPA. You might >try one to see if it solves your problem. I heard an advertisement on >radio for a chemical that you can mix with the gas to prevent cold weather >start up problems. While in the auto parts store--you should ask if they >have such a product. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
garyj wrote:
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? ===================== Gary, Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. Let us know how you make out with your problem. "Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
garyj wrote:
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? ===================== Gary, Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. Let us know how you make out with your problem. "Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
garyj wrote:
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > Any ideas what is wrong? ===================== Gary, Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. Let us know how you make out with your problem. "Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all that is needed. CaptainKrunch "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > garyj wrote: > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > ===================== > > Gary, > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > "Curly' > > ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all that is needed. CaptainKrunch "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > garyj wrote: > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > ===================== > > Gary, > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > "Curly' > > ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all that is needed. CaptainKrunch "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > garyj wrote: > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > ===================== > > Gary, > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > "Curly' > > ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com... There is no reason to > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Shuts off the injectors? Eh? I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start without injectors? So, a floored FI car can _not_ start. I learn something new everyday. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com... There is no reason to > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Shuts off the injectors? Eh? I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start without injectors? So, a floored FI car can _not_ start. I learn something new everyday. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com... There is no reason to > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Shuts off the injectors? Eh? I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start without injectors? So, a floored FI car can _not_ start. I learn something new everyday. |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
assuming you don't have a floor mat in the way. And then again I don't want
to put my foot in my mouth by saying all cars but I would bet money that the majority are like that. I imagine it has to be that way to help if an engine with EFI got flooded, if for some reason the engine wasn't starting and fuel was pumping into the engine. CaptainKrunch "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tskKb.152$AJB.26@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com... > > "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message > news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com... > > There is no reason to > > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. > > Shuts off the injectors? Eh? > I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start > without injectors? > So, a floored FI car can _not_ start. > > I learn something new everyday. > > |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
assuming you don't have a floor mat in the way. And then again I don't want
to put my foot in my mouth by saying all cars but I would bet money that the majority are like that. I imagine it has to be that way to help if an engine with EFI got flooded, if for some reason the engine wasn't starting and fuel was pumping into the engine. CaptainKrunch "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tskKb.152$AJB.26@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com... > > "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message > news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com... > > There is no reason to > > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. > > Shuts off the injectors? Eh? > I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start > without injectors? > So, a floored FI car can _not_ start. > > I learn something new everyday. > > |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
assuming you don't have a floor mat in the way. And then again I don't want
to put my foot in my mouth by saying all cars but I would bet money that the majority are like that. I imagine it has to be that way to help if an engine with EFI got flooded, if for some reason the engine wasn't starting and fuel was pumping into the engine. CaptainKrunch "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tskKb.152$AJB.26@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com... > > "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message > news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com... > > There is no reason to > > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. > > Shuts off the injectors? Eh? > I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start > without injectors? > So, a floored FI car can _not_ start. > > I learn something new everyday. > > |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
CaptainKrunch wrote:
> > I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the > temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be > using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the > spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all > that is needed. > > CaptainKrunch > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > ===================== > > > > Gary, > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > "Curly' > > > > ==================== Captain, READ THE WHOLE THREAD-- Our Odyssey is sitting, unused, so oil didn't get changed to 'winter oil'. The manual says, in COLD weather, to push pedal half way to floor. (engine needs air) I suggested his Odyssey might be flooded if it doesn't fire at all (which was happening to ours because of a leaky injector) Good point about 'all the way to the floor' Maybe he's gone over to Odyclub to shop around for better answers. 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
CaptainKrunch wrote:
> > I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the > temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be > using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the > spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all > that is needed. > > CaptainKrunch > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > ===================== > > > > Gary, > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > "Curly' > > > > ==================== Captain, READ THE WHOLE THREAD-- Our Odyssey is sitting, unused, so oil didn't get changed to 'winter oil'. The manual says, in COLD weather, to push pedal half way to floor. (engine needs air) I suggested his Odyssey might be flooded if it doesn't fire at all (which was happening to ours because of a leaky injector) Good point about 'all the way to the floor' Maybe he's gone over to Odyclub to shop around for better answers. 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
CaptainKrunch wrote:
> > I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the > temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be > using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the > spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all > that is needed. > > CaptainKrunch > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > ===================== > > > > Gary, > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > "Curly' > > > > ==================== Captain, READ THE WHOLE THREAD-- Our Odyssey is sitting, unused, so oil didn't get changed to 'winter oil'. The manual says, in COLD weather, to push pedal half way to floor. (engine needs air) I suggested his Odyssey might be flooded if it doesn't fire at all (which was happening to ours because of a leaky injector) Good point about 'all the way to the floor' Maybe he's gone over to Odyclub to shop around for better answers. 'Curly' ==================== |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
<nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > ===================== > > > > Gary, > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > "Curly' > > > > ==================== Curly, I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said something like this: Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
<nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > ===================== > > > > Gary, > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > "Curly' > > > > ==================== Curly, I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said something like this: Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
<nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > ===================== > > > > Gary, > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > "Curly' > > > > ==================== Curly, I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said something like this: Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
<nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > ===================== > > > > Gary, > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > "Curly' > > > > ==================== Curly, I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said something like this: Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
No choke. Chokes are only on carbureted engines, and your Odyssey is
fuel injected (fuel injected engines also enrich the mixture during cold starts, but not by using a choke). Check you manual for cold-start procedure. Tom Wilson wrote: > > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
No choke. Chokes are only on carbureted engines, and your Odyssey is
fuel injected (fuel injected engines also enrich the mixture during cold starts, but not by using a choke). Check you manual for cold-start procedure. Tom Wilson wrote: > > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
No choke. Chokes are only on carbureted engines, and your Odyssey is
fuel injected (fuel injected engines also enrich the mixture during cold starts, but not by using a choke). Check you manual for cold-start procedure. Tom Wilson wrote: > > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
No choke. Chokes are only on carbureted engines, and your Odyssey is
fuel injected (fuel injected engines also enrich the mixture during cold starts, but not by using a choke). Check you manual for cold-start procedure. Tom Wilson wrote: > > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I am going to go out on a limb here and risk putting my foot into my mouth.
There is no choke or automatic choke system on a car with electronic fuel injection. The only thing the accelerator pedal operates is a butterfly valve usually connected to a throttle positioner sensor of some type. It is all computer controlled CaptainKrunch "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-0601040958500001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I am going to go out on a limb here and risk putting my foot into my mouth.
There is no choke or automatic choke system on a car with electronic fuel injection. The only thing the accelerator pedal operates is a butterfly valve usually connected to a throttle positioner sensor of some type. It is all computer controlled CaptainKrunch "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-0601040958500001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I am going to go out on a limb here and risk putting my foot into my mouth.
There is no choke or automatic choke system on a car with electronic fuel injection. The only thing the accelerator pedal operates is a butterfly valve usually connected to a throttle positioner sensor of some type. It is all computer controlled CaptainKrunch "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-0601040958500001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
I am going to go out on a limb here and risk putting my foot into my mouth.
There is no choke or automatic choke system on a car with electronic fuel injection. The only thing the accelerator pedal operates is a butterfly valve usually connected to a throttle positioner sensor of some type. It is all computer controlled CaptainKrunch "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-0601040958500001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch" > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: > > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com... > > > garyj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust. > > > > > > > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > > ===================== > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor. > > > > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem. > > > > > > "Curly' > > > > > > ==================== > > Curly, > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said > something like this: > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX? |
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