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How is the Element?
I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like
to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. Thanks! BJ |
Re: How is the Element?
"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. Mike > > |
Re: How is the Element?
"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. Mike > > |
Re: How is the Element?
"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. Mike > > |
Re: How is the Element?
"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. Mike > > |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > like > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > but > > I > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > > you > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > > Thanks! > > > BJ > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > size > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > plan > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up in the Element idea. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > like > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > but > > I > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > > you > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > > Thanks! > > > BJ > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > size > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > plan > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up in the Element idea. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > like > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > but > > I > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > > you > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > > Thanks! > > > BJ > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > size > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > plan > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up in the Element idea. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > like > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > but > > I > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > > you > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > > Thanks! > > > BJ > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > size > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > plan > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element? > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up in the Element idea. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > > like > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > > but > > > I > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > (are > > > you > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > months. > > > > Thanks! > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > > size > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > plan > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > Element? > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > in the Element idea. > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > > like > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > > but > > > I > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > (are > > > you > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > months. > > > > Thanks! > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > > size > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > plan > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > Element? > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > in the Element idea. > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > > like > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > > but > > > I > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > (are > > > you > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > months. > > > > Thanks! > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > > size > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > plan > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > Element? > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > in the Element idea. > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would > > like > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, > > but > > > I > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > (are > > > you > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > months. > > > > Thanks! > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good > > size > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > plan > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > Element? > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > in the Element idea. > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:NRHOb.67451$IF6.1597442@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I > would > > > like > > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the > Element, > > > but > > > > I > > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > > (are > > > > you > > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > > months. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two > good > > > size > > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > > plan > > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a > payload > > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > > Element? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > > in the Element idea. > > > > > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you > what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 > Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was > actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and > trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off > to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM > and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their > pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew > from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. > > Best check the brochure then however the weight allowance is not given in the on line brochure. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:NRHOb.67451$IF6.1597442@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I > would > > > like > > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the > Element, > > > but > > > > I > > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > > (are > > > > you > > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > > months. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two > good > > > size > > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > > plan > > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a > payload > > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > > Element? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > > in the Element idea. > > > > > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you > what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 > Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was > actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and > trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off > to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM > and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their > pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew > from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. > > Best check the brochure then however the weight allowance is not given in the on line brochure. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:NRHOb.67451$IF6.1597442@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I > would > > > like > > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the > Element, > > > but > > > > I > > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > > (are > > > > you > > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > > months. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two > good > > > size > > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > > plan > > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a > payload > > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > > Element? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > > in the Element idea. > > > > > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you > what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 > Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was > actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and > trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off > to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM > and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their > pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew > from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. > > Best check the brochure then however the weight allowance is not given in the on line brochure. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message news:NRHOb.67451$IF6.1597442@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... > > > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message > > news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message > > > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I > would > > > like > > > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the > Element, > > > but > > > > I > > > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad > > (are > > > > you > > > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few > > months. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > BJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two > good > > > size > > > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not > > > plan > > > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a > payload > > > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an > > Element? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs. > > Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up > > in the Element idea. > > > > > > I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you > what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003 > Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was > actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and > trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off > to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM > and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their > pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew > from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me. > > Best check the brochure then however the weight allowance is not given in the on line brochure. |
Re: How is the Element?
"Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-1901041024200001@pm1-broad-108.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better > vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn > over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. Where did you come across this information? I agree with the > intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up > one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Welcome back, Bill. Why the name change? |
Re: How is the Element?
"Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-1901041024200001@pm1-broad-108.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better > vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn > over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. Where did you come across this information? I agree with the > intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up > one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Welcome back, Bill. Why the name change? |
Re: How is the Element?
"Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-1901041024200001@pm1-broad-108.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better > vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn > over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. Where did you come across this information? I agree with the > intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up > one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Welcome back, Bill. Why the name change? |
Re: How is the Element?
"Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:tomwilson-1901041024200001@pm1-broad-108.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better > vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn > over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. Where did you come across this information? I agree with the > intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up > one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Welcome back, Bill. Why the name change? |
Re: How is the Element?
In article <3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.net> , "Bernard
Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote: > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. I agree with the intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Also-just for fun--if a salesperson approaches you--ask him to take you for a drive and drive really fast around a sharp turn--he will quickly tell you that he won't do it or refer you to a fellow salesman that he does not like. |
Re: How is the Element?
In article <3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.net> , "Bernard
Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote: > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. I agree with the intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Also-just for fun--if a salesperson approaches you--ask him to take you for a drive and drive really fast around a sharp turn--he will quickly tell you that he won't do it or refer you to a fellow salesman that he does not like. |
Re: How is the Element?
In article <3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.net> , "Bernard
Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote: > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. I agree with the intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Also-just for fun--if a salesperson approaches you--ask him to take you for a drive and drive really fast around a sharp turn--he will quickly tell you that he won't do it or refer you to a fellow salesman that he does not like. |
Re: How is the Element?
In article <3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.net> , "Bernard
Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote: > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ I don't advise you to buy the Element. The Pilot and CR-V are much better vehicles. The Element is very top heavy and high profile--it could turn over if you drove too fast around a sharp turn. I agree with the intelligent poster that suggested that you visit a Honda shop and pick up one of the free brochures on The Pilot, CR-V and Element. Also-just for fun--if a salesperson approaches you--ask him to take you for a drive and drive really fast around a sharp turn--he will quickly tell you that he won't do it or refer you to a fellow salesman that he does not like. |
Re: How is the Element?
Here's a good article concerning the Element...
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1 Some notable quotes from it: "Honda says Elements haul an extra 250 pounds compared with similarly equipped CR-Vs." "Through tight turns and quick transitions, the boxy Honda stays relatively flat, performing like a Doberman trapped inside a Great Dane's body. On the skidpad, our test vehicle pulled a very impressive 0.78 g, which beats the CR-V's 0.72 g and even ties the last BMW 330i we tested (October 2002). "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ > > |
Re: How is the Element?
Here's a good article concerning the Element...
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1 Some notable quotes from it: "Honda says Elements haul an extra 250 pounds compared with similarly equipped CR-Vs." "Through tight turns and quick transitions, the boxy Honda stays relatively flat, performing like a Doberman trapped inside a Great Dane's body. On the skidpad, our test vehicle pulled a very impressive 0.78 g, which beats the CR-V's 0.72 g and even ties the last BMW 330i we tested (October 2002). "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ > > |
Re: How is the Element?
Here's a good article concerning the Element...
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1 Some notable quotes from it: "Honda says Elements haul an extra 250 pounds compared with similarly equipped CR-Vs." "Through tight turns and quick transitions, the boxy Honda stays relatively flat, performing like a Doberman trapped inside a Great Dane's body. On the skidpad, our test vehicle pulled a very impressive 0.78 g, which beats the CR-V's 0.72 g and even ties the last BMW 330i we tested (October 2002). "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ > > |
Re: How is the Element?
Here's a good article concerning the Element...
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1 Some notable quotes from it: "Honda says Elements haul an extra 250 pounds compared with similarly equipped CR-Vs." "Through tight turns and quick transitions, the boxy Honda stays relatively flat, performing like a Doberman trapped inside a Great Dane's body. On the skidpad, our test vehicle pulled a very impressive 0.78 g, which beats the CR-V's 0.72 g and even ties the last BMW 330i we tested (October 2002). "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > Thanks! > BJ > > |
Re: How is the Element?
Vehicle load is 675 pounds. Towing capacity, as reported by Consumer Reports
is 1500 lbs. "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > > > |
Re: How is the Element?
Vehicle load is 675 pounds. Towing capacity, as reported by Consumer Reports
is 1500 lbs. "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > > > |
Re: How is the Element?
Vehicle load is 675 pounds. Towing capacity, as reported by Consumer Reports
is 1500 lbs. "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > > > |
Re: How is the Element?
Vehicle load is 675 pounds. Towing capacity, as reported by Consumer Reports
is 1500 lbs. "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t... > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but > I > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are > you > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months. > > Thanks! > > BJ > > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home. > > Mike > > > > > > |
Re: How is the Element?
I have 2,000 miles on a 2003 Element. I just did a 1,000 ski trip in
Idaho/Montana. Only complaint is metal frame under the left side of vehicle often rubs the snow. I also have a 2000 CRV. Both get 20-24 mpg. Element can fit 2 people, 2 bicycles (with both wheel on) and skies inside the vehicle. Still getting use to the no-carpet concept ... stuff slides around a lot. - Steve |
Re: How is the Element?
I have 2,000 miles on a 2003 Element. I just did a 1,000 ski trip in
Idaho/Montana. Only complaint is metal frame under the left side of vehicle often rubs the snow. I also have a 2000 CRV. Both get 20-24 mpg. Element can fit 2 people, 2 bicycles (with both wheel on) and skies inside the vehicle. Still getting use to the no-carpet concept ... stuff slides around a lot. - Steve |
Re: How is the Element?
I have 2,000 miles on a 2003 Element. I just did a 1,000 ski trip in
Idaho/Montana. Only complaint is metal frame under the left side of vehicle often rubs the snow. I also have a 2000 CRV. Both get 20-24 mpg. Element can fit 2 people, 2 bicycles (with both wheel on) and skies inside the vehicle. Still getting use to the no-carpet concept ... stuff slides around a lot. - Steve |
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