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Cam 10-22-2007 03:32 PM

I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will let
you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My question
to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
scam.

Thanks for your input.

Cam
20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
efficiency at the same time?


Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway driving


Edward W. Thompson 10-23-2007 01:08 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

>On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
>battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will let
>you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
>WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
>reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
>time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My question
>to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
>not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
>program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
>scam.
>
>Thanks for your input.
>
>Cam
>20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
>Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
>efficiency at the same time?
>
>
>Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
>Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
>gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway driving


Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't interested?
I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.

Edward W. Thompson 10-23-2007 01:08 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

>On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
>battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will let
>you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
>WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
>reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
>time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My question
>to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
>not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
>program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
>scam.
>
>Thanks for your input.
>
>Cam
>20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
>Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
>efficiency at the same time?
>
>
>Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
>Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
>gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway driving


Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't interested?
I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.

DougS 10-23-2007 05:34 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Oct 23, 1:08 am, Edward W. Thompson <thomed...@btopenworld.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
> >battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will let
> >you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
> >WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
> >reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
> >time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My question
> >to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
> >not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
> >program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
> >scam.

>
> >Thanks for your input.

>
> >Cam
> >20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
> >Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
> >efficiency at the same time?

>
> >Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
> >http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
> >Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
> >gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway driving

>
> Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't interested?
> I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.


Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.
Seriously, if you want to make money, make it on service, not the
book. Offer to do this for people (modify their cars), not sell a book
for an exorbitant cost. $99 for a book is scam no matter what the
subject is.
If you want people to buy it at that price make it a college textbook,
thats the only way I would pay that much money for a book.


DougS 10-23-2007 05:34 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Oct 23, 1:08 am, Edward W. Thompson <thomed...@btopenworld.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
> >battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will let
> >you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
> >WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
> >reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
> >time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My question
> >to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
> >not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
> >program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
> >scam.

>
> >Thanks for your input.

>
> >Cam
> >20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
> >Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
> >efficiency at the same time?

>
> >Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
> >http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
> >Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
> >gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway driving

>
> Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't interested?
> I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.


Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.
Seriously, if you want to make money, make it on service, not the
book. Offer to do this for people (modify their cars), not sell a book
for an exorbitant cost. $99 for a book is scam no matter what the
subject is.
If you want people to buy it at that price make it a college textbook,
thats the only way I would pay that much money for a book.


Tegger 10-23-2007 07:07 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
DougS <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1193175289.387996.69070@q3g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com:

> On Oct 23, 1:08 am, Edward W. Thompson <thomed...@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:


>>
>> >Cam
>> >20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
>> >Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
>> >efficiency at the same time?

>>
>> >Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>> >http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
>> >Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles
>> >per US gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined
>> >city/highway driving

>>
>> Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't
>> interested? I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.

>
> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.




Ah, so. Engrish.
http://www.engrish.com/

Bery, bery funny! You raugh so hard you cly.




--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 10-23-2007 07:07 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
DougS <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1193175289.387996.69070@q3g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com:

> On Oct 23, 1:08 am, Edward W. Thompson <thomed...@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:


>>
>> >Cam
>> >20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
>> >Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
>> >efficiency at the same time?

>>
>> >Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>> >http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
>> >Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles
>> >per US gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined
>> >city/highway driving

>>
>> Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't
>> interested? I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.

>
> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.




Ah, so. Engrish.
http://www.engrish.com/

Bery, bery funny! You raugh so hard you cly.




--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

EdV 10-23-2007 09:00 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.


EdV 10-23-2007 09:00 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.


Cam 10-24-2007 04:14 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193175289.387996.69070@q3g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Oct 23, 1:08 am, Edward W. Thompson <thomed...@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
>> >battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will
>> >let
>> >you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving
>> >from
>> >WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320
>> >also
>> >reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
>> >time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My
>> >question
>> >to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem
>> >is,
>> >not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
>> >program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
>> >scam.

>>
>> >Thanks for your input.

>>
>> >Cam
>> >20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
>> >Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
>> >efficiency at the same time?

>>
>> >Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>> >http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
>> >Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per
>> >US
>> >gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway
>> >driving

>>
>> Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't interested?
>> I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.

>
> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.



Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would think
I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a typical
American's attitude, I guess.




Cam 10-24-2007 04:14 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193175289.387996.69070@q3g2000prf.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Oct 23, 1:08 am, Edward W. Thompson <thomed...@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0700, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
>> >battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will
>> >let
>> >you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving
>> >from
>> >WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320
>> >also
>> >reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
>> >time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My
>> >question
>> >to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem
>> >is,
>> >not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
>> >program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
>> >scam.

>>
>> >Thanks for your input.

>>
>> >Cam
>> >20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
>> >Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
>> >efficiency at the same time?

>>
>> >Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>> >http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
>> >Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per
>> >US
>> >gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway
>> >driving

>>
>> Do I asume that neither Mercedes and Toyota (Lexus) aren't interested?
>> I wonder why:-). Perhaps snake oil comes to mind.

>
> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.



Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would think
I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a typical
American's attitude, I guess.




Cam 10-24-2007 04:23 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.



Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
start the video, this is where people will have doubt.

I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
I do not know. What do you think about this idea?

Cam


Cam 10-24-2007 04:23 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.



Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
start the video, this is where people will have doubt.

I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
I do not know. What do you think about this idea?

Cam


Tegger 10-24-2007 07:46 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
"Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in news:ffmutu$fgk$1@aioe.org:

>
> "DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message


>>
>> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.

>
>
> Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would
> think I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a
> typical American's attitude, I guess.
>
>
>
>



I didn't write that comment. DougS did.

And I'm not from the USA. :)

--
Tegger


Tegger 10-24-2007 07:46 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
"Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in news:ffmutu$fgk$1@aioe.org:

>
> "DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message


>>
>> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.

>
>
> Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would
> think I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a
> typical American's attitude, I guess.
>
>
>
>



I didn't write that comment. DougS did.

And I'm not from the USA. :)

--
Tegger


EdV 10-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>
> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> Cam


Well, here are some suggestions:

1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
connector.
2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
device installed.
3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
will verify
6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!




EdV 10-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>
> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> Cam


Well, here are some suggestions:

1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
connector.
2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
device installed.
3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
will verify
6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!




Dori A Schmetterling 10-24-2007 01:30 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
I didn't know Mercedes had bought MINI off BMW...

DAS

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[...]
>>
>>Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>>http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886

[...]



Dori A Schmetterling 10-24-2007 01:30 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
I didn't know Mercedes had bought MINI off BMW...

DAS

For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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[...]
>>
>>Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>>http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886

[...]



Cam 10-24-2007 02:27 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99D34F4A5D14Ategger@207.14.116.130...
> "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in news:ffmutu$fgk$1@aioe.org:
>
>>
>> "DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
>>>
>>> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.

>>
>>
>> Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would
>> think I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a
>> typical American's attitude, I guess.
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> I didn't write that comment. DougS did.
>
> And I'm not from the USA. :)
>
> --
> Tegger



You're right, sorry about that.

Cam




Cam 10-24-2007 02:27 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99D34F4A5D14Ategger@207.14.116.130...
> "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in news:ffmutu$fgk$1@aioe.org:
>
>>
>> "DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
>>>
>>> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.

>>
>>
>> Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would
>> think I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a
>> typical American's attitude, I guess.
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> I didn't write that comment. DougS did.
>
> And I'm not from the USA. :)
>
> --
> Tegger



You're right, sorry about that.

Cam




Cam 10-24-2007 02:41 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
>> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>>
>> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
>> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
>> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
>> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>>
>> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> someone
>> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>>
>> Cam

>
> Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> connector.
> 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> device installed.
> 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> will verify
> 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> service manager and tell us what they think about your car.
>
> Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!
>



Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
that tells you the MPG which is nice.




Cam 10-24-2007 02:41 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
>> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>>
>> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
>> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
>> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
>> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>>
>> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> someone
>> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>>
>> Cam

>
> Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> connector.
> 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> device installed.
> 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> will verify
> 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> service manager and tell us what they think about your car.
>
> Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!
>



Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
that tells you the MPG which is nice.




EdV 10-24-2007 02:57 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Oct 24, 2:41 pm, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googleg roups.com...

>
> >> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> >> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>
> >> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> >> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> >> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> >> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.

>
> >> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> >> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
> >> someone
> >> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?

>
> >> Cam

>
> > Well, here are some suggestions:

>
> > 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> > connector.
> > 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> > Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> > the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> > device installed.
> > 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> > 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> > 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> > third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> > will verify
> > 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> > the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> > 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> > service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

>
> > Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!

>
> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
> that tells you the MPG which is nice.


DMV and Manufacturer's comment is important. These are always in the
FAQ's,
1. Will it void my car's warranty?
2. Is this damage my vehicle?
3. Will my car pass inspection?


EdV 10-24-2007 02:57 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Oct 24, 2:41 pm, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googleg roups.com...

>
> >> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> >> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>
> >> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> >> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> >> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> >> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.

>
> >> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> >> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
> >> someone
> >> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?

>
> >> Cam

>
> > Well, here are some suggestions:

>
> > 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> > connector.
> > 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> > Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> > the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> > device installed.
> > 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> > 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> > 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> > third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> > will verify
> > 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> > the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> > 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> > service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

>
> > Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!

>
> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
> that tells you the MPG which is nice.


DMV and Manufacturer's comment is important. These are always in the
FAQ's,
1. Will it void my car's warranty?
2. Is this damage my vehicle?
3. Will my car pass inspection?


Geoff Miller 10-24-2007 03:39 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 


Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

[to "Tegger"]

>> And I'm not from the USA. :)


> You're right, sorry about that.



What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.



Geoff

--
"When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King

Geoff Miller 10-24-2007 03:39 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 


Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

[to "Tegger"]

>> And I'm not from the USA. :)


> You're right, sorry about that.



What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.



Geoff

--
"When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King

Scott Buchanan 10-25-2007 02:37 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
I live in S.W. Washington. I'd be willing to work with you.


"Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ffitta$h8a$1@aioe.org...
> On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
> battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will

let
> you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
> WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
> reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
> time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My

question
> to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
> not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
> program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
> scam.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Cam
> 20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
> Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
> efficiency at the same time?
>
>
> Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
> http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
> Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
> gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway

driving
>




Scott Buchanan 10-25-2007 02:37 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
I live in S.W. Washington. I'd be willing to work with you.


"Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ffitta$h8a$1@aioe.org...
> On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
> battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will

let
> you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
> WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
> reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
> time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My

question
> to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
> not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
> program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
> scam.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Cam
> 20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
> Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
> efficiency at the same time?
>
>
> Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
> http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
> Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
> gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway

driving
>




Josh S 10-25-2007 03:29 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
In article <ffmvdv$gph$1@aioe.org>, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>
>
> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> Cam

First you need to submit your vehicle to a well respected test agency,
to obtain an independent realistic report from their standard test
circuit.
Consumer Reports?

> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
> that tells you the MPG which is nice.


Your last comments above have created doubt in my mind.
Sounds a bit like the French air car, which hasn't burned up the roads.

Josh S 10-25-2007 03:29 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
In article <ffmvdv$gph$1@aioe.org>, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>
>
> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> Cam

First you need to submit your vehicle to a well respected test agency,
to obtain an independent realistic report from their standard test
circuit.
Consumer Reports?

> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
> that tells you the MPG which is nice.


Your last comments above have created doubt in my mind.
Sounds a bit like the French air car, which hasn't burned up the roads.

Cam 10-25-2007 11:59 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193252276.156045.254150@t8g2000prg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Oct 24, 2:41 pm, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googleg roups.com...

>>
>> >> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube
>> >> > to
>> >> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or
>> >> > not.

>>
>> >> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to
>> >> people
>> >> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos.
>> >> You
>> >> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop
>> >> and
>> >> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.

>>
>> >> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> >> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> >> someone
>> >> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?

>>
>> >> Cam

>>
>> > Well, here are some suggestions:

>>
>> > 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
>> > connector.
>> > 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
>> > Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
>> > the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
>> > device installed.
>> > 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
>> > 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
>> > 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
>> > third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
>> > will verify
>> > 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
>> > the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
>> > 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
>> > service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

>>
>> > Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!

>>
>> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except
>> that
>> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
>> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy
>> to
>> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
>> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method
>> of
>> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
>> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
>> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related,
>> plus
>> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in
>> Computer
>> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

>
> DMV and Manufacturer's comment is important. These are always in the

I do not think DMV will not endorse any one's invention.

> FAQ's,
> 1. Will it void my car's warranty?


Car Manufacturers will always want no one to tamper with their design even
though they have lots of errors in their own design. For instance, when I
first bought my infiniti, I smell motor oil every time I went to have an oil
change, it's typical for Japanese cars and for American car. Do you know
why? they didn't seal the engine comparment very well, so I went ahead and
seal it (to block some oil spill by the technician), so does it mean I break
their warranty? Very likely the car maker will say Yes, but I don't care
since I am doing the right thing. German cars are well made, you won't
smell the oil at all. In any cases, I have NEVER benefit anything from the
car's warranty. Warranty = Guarantee with condition, if your car is new
then they will give you a prompt attention.

> 2. Is this damage my vehicle?

Definitely NO, if it had the ability to damage the car then I would have
been dead long time ago. I put my cars to test on the high-way (up to
100mph) for over a year now, I got speedy tickets while testing, I drove
what I invented. So do you think I want to die? I worked in Engineering
field for over 20 years, everything I do has to be safe and well computed.
The answer is No It will not damage your vehicle, it will extend the life of
your car, because your car will work less hard.

> 3. Will my car pass inspection?

Of course your car will pass the inspection. In fact I already went through
DMV inspection once, it passed without any problem. There is no smoke
whatsoever from the exhaust pipe.




Cam 10-25-2007 11:59 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193252276.156045.254150@t8g2000prg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Oct 24, 2:41 pm, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googleg roups.com...

>>
>> >> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube
>> >> > to
>> >> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or
>> >> > not.

>>
>> >> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to
>> >> people
>> >> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos.
>> >> You
>> >> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop
>> >> and
>> >> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.

>>
>> >> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> >> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> >> someone
>> >> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?

>>
>> >> Cam

>>
>> > Well, here are some suggestions:

>>
>> > 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
>> > connector.
>> > 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
>> > Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
>> > the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
>> > device installed.
>> > 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
>> > 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
>> > 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
>> > third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
>> > will verify
>> > 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
>> > the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
>> > 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
>> > service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

>>
>> > Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!

>>
>> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except
>> that
>> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
>> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy
>> to
>> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
>> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method
>> of
>> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
>> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
>> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related,
>> plus
>> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in
>> Computer
>> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

>
> DMV and Manufacturer's comment is important. These are always in the

I do not think DMV will not endorse any one's invention.

> FAQ's,
> 1. Will it void my car's warranty?


Car Manufacturers will always want no one to tamper with their design even
though they have lots of errors in their own design. For instance, when I
first bought my infiniti, I smell motor oil every time I went to have an oil
change, it's typical for Japanese cars and for American car. Do you know
why? they didn't seal the engine comparment very well, so I went ahead and
seal it (to block some oil spill by the technician), so does it mean I break
their warranty? Very likely the car maker will say Yes, but I don't care
since I am doing the right thing. German cars are well made, you won't
smell the oil at all. In any cases, I have NEVER benefit anything from the
car's warranty. Warranty = Guarantee with condition, if your car is new
then they will give you a prompt attention.

> 2. Is this damage my vehicle?

Definitely NO, if it had the ability to damage the car then I would have
been dead long time ago. I put my cars to test on the high-way (up to
100mph) for over a year now, I got speedy tickets while testing, I drove
what I invented. So do you think I want to die? I worked in Engineering
field for over 20 years, everything I do has to be safe and well computed.
The answer is No It will not damage your vehicle, it will extend the life of
your car, because your car will work less hard.

> 3. Will my car pass inspection?

Of course your car will pass the inspection. In fact I already went through
DMV inspection once, it passed without any problem. There is no smoke
whatsoever from the exhaust pipe.




Cam 10-25-2007 12:08 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"Josh S" <Josh@clean.spam> wrote in message
news:Josh-CEE1DB.00293125102007@news.telus.net...
> In article <ffmvdv$gph$1@aioe.org>, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
>> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>>
>>
>> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
>> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
>> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
>> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>>
>> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> someone
>> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>>
>> Cam

> First you need to submit your vehicle to a well respected test agency,
> to obtain an independent realistic report from their standard test
> circuit.
> Consumer Reports?
>
>> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except
>> that
>> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
>> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy
>> to
>> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
>> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method
>> of
>> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
>> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
>> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related,
>> plus
>> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in
>> Computer
>> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

>
> Your last comments above have created doubt in my mind.
> Sounds a bit like the French air car, which hasn't burned up the roads.




It's your own imagination. Do not let your faulty imagination drive you
nuts. I agree, I do not like the French cars, however their math is much
more easier to handle the complexity. I am not French but I went to French
schools when I was little. My English is not perfect, because I was not born
with it. If you judge people by their tongues, then you are looking at
their tongues rather than their brains.






Cam 10-25-2007 12:08 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"Josh S" <Josh@clean.spam> wrote in message
news:Josh-CEE1DB.00293125102007@news.telus.net...
> In article <ffmvdv$gph$1@aioe.org>, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
>> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>>
>>
>> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
>> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
>> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
>> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>>
>> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> someone
>> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>>
>> Cam

> First you need to submit your vehicle to a well respected test agency,
> to obtain an independent realistic report from their standard test
> circuit.
> Consumer Reports?
>
>> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except
>> that
>> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
>> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy
>> to
>> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
>> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method
>> of
>> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
>> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
>> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related,
>> plus
>> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in
>> Computer
>> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

>
> Your last comments above have created doubt in my mind.
> Sounds a bit like the French air car, which hasn't burned up the roads.




It's your own imagination. Do not let your faulty imagination drive you
nuts. I agree, I do not like the French cars, however their math is much
more easier to handle the complexity. I am not French but I went to French
schools when I was little. My English is not perfect, because I was not born
with it. If you judge people by their tongues, then you are looking at
their tongues rather than their brains.






Cam 10-25-2007 12:33 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hv7qncn5r0734@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> [to "Tegger"]
>
>>> And I'm not from the USA. :)

>
>> You're right, sorry about that.

>
>
> What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
> about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>
> --
> "When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
> Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
> God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
> just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King




I think you need to trace where the fire started, and fix it at the root
level. Some of you started to make fun of me first without any evidence.
This is not the first time, back in April 2007, I claimed I have
successfully accomplished a 50mpg, some of you called me Mr.. snake oil, now
I went to 65-73mpg, you still called me Mr. snake oil.


The golden rule is:
"Do not do unto others as you would they should do unto you."






Cam 10-25-2007 12:33 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hv7qncn5r0734@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> [to "Tegger"]
>
>>> And I'm not from the USA. :)

>
>> You're right, sorry about that.

>
>
> What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
> about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>
> --
> "When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
> Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
> God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
> just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King




I think you need to trace where the fire started, and fix it at the root
level. Some of you started to make fun of me first without any evidence.
This is not the first time, back in April 2007, I claimed I have
successfully accomplished a 50mpg, some of you called me Mr.. snake oil, now
I went to 65-73mpg, you still called me Mr. snake oil.


The golden rule is:
"Do not do unto others as you would they should do unto you."






Geoff Miller 10-25-2007 01:05 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 


Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> writes:

: What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
: about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.

> I think you need to trace where the fire started, and fix it
> at the root level. Some of you started to make fun of me
> first without any evidence. This is not the first time, back
> in April 2007, I claimed I have successfully accomplished a
> 50mpg, some of you called me Mr.. snake oil, now I went to
> 65-73mpg, you still called me Mr. snake oil.



Nice attempt at diversion. What's that got to do with your being
chauvinistic toward Americans?



Geoff

--
"When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King

Geoff Miller 10-25-2007 01:05 PM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 


Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> writes:

: What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
: about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.

> I think you need to trace where the fire started, and fix it
> at the root level. Some of you started to make fun of me
> first without any evidence. This is not the first time, back
> in April 2007, I claimed I have successfully accomplished a
> 50mpg, some of you called me Mr.. snake oil, now I went to
> 65-73mpg, you still called me Mr. snake oil.



Nice attempt at diversion. What's that got to do with your being
chauvinistic toward Americans?



Geoff

--
"When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King

Edward W. Thompson 10-26-2007 01:49 AM

Re: I Beat both Mercedes "MINI Range" and "Toyota Prius"
 
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:29:31 GMT, Josh S <Josh@clean.spam> wrote:

>In article <ffmvdv$gph$1@aioe.org>, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
>> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.

>>
>>
>> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
>> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
>> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
>> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>>
>> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
>> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>>
>> Cam

>First you need to submit your vehicle to a well respected test agency,
>to obtain an independent realistic report from their standard test
>circuit.
>Consumer Reports?
>
>> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
>> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
>> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
>> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
>> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
>> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
>> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
>> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
>> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
>> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

>
>Your last comments above have created doubt in my mind.
>Sounds a bit like the French air car, which hasn't burned up the roads.


I really can't understand how you guys can give this claim any
credibility. Simply think it through. Without modifying the basic
engine and by simply modifying timing and the fuel injection
characteristics a very substantial invcrease in fuel consumption can
be achieved. If significant improvement in fuel consumption can so
easily be achieved why are manufacturers spending substantail money on
trying to improve fuel consumption by designing ever more economical
vehicles, hybrids, fuel cells and the like? The manufacturers'
engineers must be truly incompetent!


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