Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor
 

Won't work in his case, the nut part is broken off. But another thing
that I have used with some success in the past is a cheap candle. Heat
up whatever you want to remove, while it is red hot, stick a candle
close by so the wax will melt and run into the threads. It will run in
almost like solder. It really works, believe it or not...

nate

Stephen H wrote:
> Wow, that can be a tuff one.
>
> My first choice; ox-ace heat, followed by the wrench
> Another option that was said to me was try to tighten first, then back out.
> This tip was from a old master tech that teaches tech courses. Now I tried
> it once and it didn't work for me, but we still try (I think I used heat on
> that one.)
> He also said ATf is a good penetrate. get the part hot and pun some on it
> and let it set overnight, the dissipating heat will wick it into the
> threads.
> I also have in my box a tap that is the 02 sensor size, wasn't easy to find,
> but I ordered it before I needed it.
> There also is an heli-coil set for thread repairs, sometimes they screw
> themselves up on the way out
> If you remove the manifold you could carry it to a vise or a machine shop.
> Heat is always the best choice.
>
>


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Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

Nate Nagel wrote:
> Remco wrote:
> > Elle wrote:
> >
> >>Sure, if all a man wants around him is other manly
> >>technicians.
> >>
> >>I advise "Goop" or similar, followed by ordinary soap, then,
> >>for men, cologne or aftershave. (Tip: Amazing how huggable
> >>men are when the scent of even a little aftershave is in the
> >>air--I'm not proud of it, but with enough aftershave, I'll
> >>swoon even before men of a different political party
> >>affiliation.)
> >>
> >>Anything but that WD-40 (or PB Blaster, etc.) odor...
> >>
> >>Brandy? Rav?
> >>
> >>I've stopped bringing penetrating oils into the house for
> >>even little cleanup jobs at the kitchen sink, because they
> >>make the whole house reek for a day.
> >>
> >>Happiest of New Years to all. Be safe, find peace.
> >
> >
> > So using that handy dandy WD40 spray can as room refresher is out,
> > then? :)
> > May all your Hondas keep running.
> >
> > Remco
> >
>
> Completely apropos of nothing, but I actually love the smell of gear
> oil. I can't quite warm up to the limited slip additive, however...
>
> nate
>

Maybe you, Mike, Elle and me stumbled onto a hole in the perfume
market....

Just watch: a month from now, one of the fancy perfume companies will
come out with "Essence de Voiture".. Ahh, the smell of it :)

Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote
> Nate Nagel wrote:
> > Remco wrote:
> > > Elle wrote:
> > >
> > >>Sure, if all a man wants around him is other manly
> > >>technicians.
> > >>
> > >>I advise "Goop" or similar, followed by ordinary soap,
then,
> > >>for men, cologne or aftershave. (Tip: Amazing how
huggable
> > >>men are when the scent of even a little aftershave is
in the
> > >>air--I'm not proud of it, but with enough aftershave,
I'll
> > >>swoon even before men of a different political party
> > >>affiliation.)
> > >>
> > >>Anything but that WD-40 (or PB Blaster, etc.) odor...
> > >>
> > >>Brandy? Rav?
> > >>
> > >>I've stopped bringing penetrating oils into the house
for
> > >>even little cleanup jobs at the kitchen sink, because
they
> > >>make the whole house reek for a day.
> > >>
> > >>Happiest of New Years to all. Be safe, find peace.
> > >
> > >
> > > So using that handy dandy WD40 spray can as room
refresher is out,
> > > then? :)
> > > May all your Hondas keep running.
> > >
> > > Remco
> > >
> >
> > Completely apropos of nothing, but I actually love the
smell of gear
> > oil. I can't quite warm up to the limited slip
additive, however...
> >
> > nate
> >
>
> Maybe you, Mike, Elle and me stumbled onto a hole in the
perfume
> market....
>
> Just watch: a month from now, one of the fancy perfume
companies will
> come out with "Essence de Voiture".. Ahh, the smell of it
:)

That's right, I neglected the flip side of the coin, which
is of course "What essence should a woman splash on to best
'catch' a man?"

Last time a guy complimented the fragrance coming from my
direction, I had to tell him it was only hair spray. :-)

Anyway... I was thinking that the seemingly wide gender
divide on the, um, appeal of machine oils may help explain
certain other gender trends. Like why there are so few
female auto techs?

I dunno. There does seem to be a noticeable difference in
preferences.

Getting back to cars and this poor fellow with the busted
off O2 sensor...

Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor
 

Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>
> It looks like the sawblade suggestion is worth a try, but personally I
> would consider it as the last resort. Twisting it out with some kind
> of long-handled tool would be my first attempt. We can see what
> happened with his first attempt. It broke the sensor off. Now you
> just have to twist it out with that pipe gizmo you said you can buy at
> Home Depot or somesuch.
>
> In fact, I am going there tomorrow just to look for such a thing.
> What is it called? Maybe I will see it in the plumbing department.
>
> Lg

Easy-Out.
There are all kinds of them.
I have most of them. Great time saver, but not for this application.
The metal is too thin to grab.
http://www.toolprice.com/category/screwextractors

Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor
 

Forgot to mention,
Easy-Outs don't work well on rusted or overly tight things
without heating the object red-hot with oxy-actyl torch first.

Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor
 

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:28:16 GMT, "« Paul »" <" « Paul
»"@houston.rr.com> wrote:

>Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>>
>> It looks like the sawblade suggestion is worth a try, but personally I
>> would consider it as the last resort. Twisting it out with some kind
>> of long-handled tool would be my first attempt. We can see what
>> happened with his first attempt. It broke the sensor off. Now you
>> just have to twist it out with that pipe gizmo you said you can buy at
>> Home Depot or somesuch.
>>
>> In fact, I am going there tomorrow just to look for such a thing.
>> What is it called? Maybe I will see it in the plumbing department.
>>
>> Lg
>
>Easy-Out.
>There are all kinds of them.
>I have most of them. Great time saver, but not for this application.
>The metal is too thin to grab.
>http://www.toolprice.com/category/screwextractors

Yes, that's what I have, although I don't recall where and when I
bought them. Easy-Out. Probably came mixed in with some pipe stuff I
bought at Sears ( Crapsman ) at one time.

A lot of good ideas here. Many good ideas. Take your pick. Of
course, a lot depends on where the sensor is located...how easy it is
to get at, how much room there is to work on it.

Still, I don't see this as an End of the World scenario. I'm thinking
time and patience will get it out, without doing any damage to the
surrounding equipment.

I have a can of *Blaster* penetrating oil out in the garage. Man does
that stuff STINK! But whatever. It might be a good idea to repeately
apply that while tapping on what is left of the O2 sensor to help the
*stuff* work its way down into the threads, presuming there are any
threads left, and they haven't all turned to rust by now.

I have some fasteners that are so far rusted, so far gone ( exhaust
hangers and such ) that the only way I can imagine getting them off is
to cut them off with a disc grinder. They sell em at Harbor Freight
for not much money.

In this case, it might make sense to remove the piece of manifold and
take it down to the basement workshop where the OP can take his time
and beat this piece of metal into submission.

Lg

Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor
 

I do believe it.

--
Stephen W. Hansen
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
ASE Undercar Specialist

http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub...l_obd_main.htm
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/


"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote in message
news:dp9qor226t@news1.newsguy.com...
> Won't work in his case, the nut part is broken off. But another thing
> that I have used with some success in the past is a cheap candle. Heat up
> whatever you want to remove, while it is red hot, stick a candle close by
> so the wax will melt and run into the threads. It will run in almost like
> solder. It really works, believe it or not...
>
> nate
>
> Stephen H wrote:
>> Wow, that can be a tuff one.
>>
>> My first choice; ox-ace heat, followed by the wrench
>> Another option that was said to me was try to tighten first, then back
>> out. This tip was from a old master tech that teaches tech courses. Now I
>> tried it once and it didn't work for me, but we still try (I think I used
>> heat on that one.)
>> He also said ATf is a good penetrate. get the part hot and pun some on it
>> and let it set overnight, the dissipating heat will wick it into the
>> threads.
>> I also have in my box a tap that is the 02 sensor size, wasn't easy to
>> find, but I ordered it before I needed it.
>> There also is an heli-coil set for thread repairs, sometimes they screw
>> themselves up on the way out
>> If you remove the manifold you could carry it to a vise or a machine
>> shop.
>> Heat is always the best choice.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
> http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor
 

In article <dp6uf5021kh@news2.newsguy.com>, njnagel@flycast.net says...

>PS - I have never had any luck with EZ-outs. They always seem to break
>on me.

Me too. I wonder if I am doing something wrong? I usually end up breaking
the EZ-out in the screw I need to remove. That then makes the job twice
as hard since the EZ-outs are so hard.
--------------
Alex

Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

In article <Pine.GSO.4.63.0601011159240.28934@alumni.engin.um ich.edu>,
dastern@127.0.0.1 says...
>
>
>On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, TE Cheah wrote:
>
>> | WD 40 is $hit in a can. Popular Mechanic's article says it's good, so
>> I bought a can : it cannot loosen rusty bolts.
>
>From this we learn a few things:
>
>1) Yes, WD40 is mostly good at loosening money that was stuck in your
>wallet.

To be fair, WD works well at what it is designed to do, displace water. I use
to carry a can in my car that had bad ignition wires. Whenever it was very
humid out and my car would not start, a quick squirt on the wires got the car
running.
-------------
Alex

Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor
 

Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in
news:dpc727$t7u$10@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu:

> In article <dp6uf5021kh@news2.newsguy.com>, njnagel@flycast.net
> says...
>
>>PS - I have never had any luck with EZ-outs. They always seem to
>>break on me.
>
> Me too. I wonder if I am doing something wrong? I usually end up
> breaking the EZ-out in the screw I need to remove. That then makes
> the job twice as hard since the EZ-outs are so hard.
> --------------
> Alex
>
>

I think it's a matter of drilling a deep enough hole for the EZ-out to go
into,if you don't get deep enough,the stress is at the EZ-out's
thinner,weaker section.That may be why some like the shorter,square-type of
"EZ-out".
Also,the EZ-out,when biting into the screw,expands it,and makes it harder
to turn.

The EX-out has to be hard in order to bite into the screw and not get
chewed up itself.It's hardened tool steel.

Some people prefer a left-handed drill bit,where the drill is used in
reverse and aids in turning out the screw while drilling into it.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

WD40 is excellent for what it was designed for. It is a Water
Displacement formula, their 40th try....

It cleans up and dries out the insides of distributor caps, it works
great cleaning up the insides of starters and loosening seized up
electrical brushes. It also rust protects tools and cleans then nice.

It is total crap for a penetrating fluid though....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

TE Cheah wrote:
>
> | WD 40 is $hit in a can.
>
> Popular Mechanic's article says it's good, so I bought a can :
> it cannot loosen rusty bolts.

Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> WD40 is excellent for what it was designed for. It is a Water
> Displacement formula, their 40th try....
>
> It cleans up and dries out the insides of distributor caps, it works
> great cleaning up the insides of starters and loosening seized up
> electrical brushes. It also rust protects tools and cleans then nice.
>
> It is total crap for a penetrating fluid though....

Used to buy it by the case when living in FL near the beach. Great for door
hinges, BBQ grills, etc.



>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> TE Cheah wrote:
>>
>>> WD 40 is $hit in a can.
>>
>> Popular Mechanic's article says it's good, so I bought a can :
>> it cannot loosen rusty bolts.

Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

L Alpert wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > WD40 is excellent for what it was designed for. It is a Water
> > Displacement formula, their 40th try....
> >
> > It cleans up and dries out the insides of distributor caps, it works
> > great cleaning up the insides of starters and loosening seized up
> > electrical brushes. It also rust protects tools and cleans then nice.
> >
> > It is total crap for a penetrating fluid though....
>
> Used to buy it by the case when living in FL near the beach. Great for door
> hinges, BBQ grills, etc.

I live in the Canadian rust belt, tell me about it...

> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > TE Cheah wrote:
> >>
> >>> WD 40 is $hit in a can.
> >>
> >> Popular Mechanic's article says it's good, so I bought a can :
> >> it cannot loosen rusty bolts.

Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

On 2006-01-05, L Alpert <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:

> Used to buy it by the case....

I'd take that as a clue.

nb

Re: WD40 no good ( Re: I broke off my Oxygen sensor )
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> L Alpert wrote:
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> WD40 is excellent for what it was designed for. It is a Water
>>> Displacement formula, their 40th try....
>>>
>>> It cleans up and dries out the insides of distributor caps, it works
>>> great cleaning up the insides of starters and loosening seized up
>>> electrical brushes. It also rust protects tools and cleans then
>>> nice.
>>>
>>> It is total crap for a penetrating fluid though....
>>
>> Used to buy it by the case when living in FL near the beach. Great
>> for door hinges, BBQ grills, etc.
>
> I live in the Canadian rust belt, tell me about it...

Then you do know......

>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> TE Cheah wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WD 40 is $hit in a can.
>>>>
>>>> Popular Mechanic's article says it's good, so I bought a can :
>>>> it cannot loosen rusty bolts.