Optimus Prime

What are the side effects? In this bad economy I really don't have an
extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.

jim beam

Optimus Prime wrote:
> What are the side effects? In this bad economy I really don't have an
> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>

what problem are you experiencing?

Leftie

Optimus Prime wrote:
> What are the side effects? In this bad economy I really don't have an
> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>

You should be able to find one for much less aftermarket, through a
*reputable* muffler shop. Failing that, see if you can buy one used from
a salvage yard.

E. Meyer

On 9/3/09 8:38 PM, in article crr0a5hi9g8ttmfe8lon748ok17gtav07o@4ax.com,
"Optimus Prime" <jcarter@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> What are the side effects? In this bad economy I really don't have an
> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>
Why do you think you need one? It could be that one or more of the O2
sensor or the wiring to them is bad & the cat is fine.

To answer your question - if the check-engine light doesn't bother you and
you don't have to pass a pollution check, the only impact as far as the car
is concerned is that the engine computer will be doing things to the tuning
of the engine trying to get in-spec readings from the O2 sensors.

Optimus Prime

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:05:12 -0500, "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 9/3/09 8:38 PM, in article crr0a5hi9g8ttmfe8lon748ok17gtav07o@4ax.com,
>"Optimus Prime" <jcarter@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> What are the side effects? In this bad economy I really don't have an
>> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>>
>Why do you think you need one? It could be that one or more of the O2
>sensor or the wiring to them is bad & the cat is fine.
>
>To answer your question - if the check-engine light doesn't bother you and
>you don't have to pass a pollution check, the only impact as far as the car
>is concerned is that the engine computer will be doing things to the tuning
>of the engine trying to get in-spec readings from the O2 sensors.

That's what I thought. Yeah, it's the check engine light giving off
P0420 reading. I've took it to a shop and they replace dsome engine
parts (engine coil, spark plugs, etc.) and the light came back on. So
yeah, it could be the O2 sensor or the cat. The car is running fine
(so far) so I'm more incline to leave it alone.

If it is either O2 sensor or cat I just wanted to know if there's no
potential big damage besides bad fuel economy.

Tegger

Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> wrote in
news:9or2a513k3q93leiq6927034el69pfj4pc@4ax.com:


>
> If it is either O2 sensor or cat I just wanted to know if there's no
> potential big damage besides bad fuel economy.
>
>



It would be nice if you gve the /year/ of your van...


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Elle

On Sep 3, 7:38 pm, Optimus Prime <jcar...@verizon.net> wrote:
> What are the side effects? In this bad economy I really don't have an
> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.

Aftermarket online will save you money, though the aftermarket cat
converter may not last as long. Magnaflow is a popular brand and
should run you under $250 at http://magnaflowcatalyticconverter.com/home.php

Catalytic converters tend not to be available at junkyards, due to the
precious metals used ones hold.

Are you in California? Like Tegger asked, what year and exact sub-
model is your Odyssey?

Optimus Prime

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT), Elle
<honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 3, 7:38?pm, Optimus Prime <jcar...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> What are the side effects? ?In this bad economy I really don't have an
>> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>
>Aftermarket online will save you money, though the aftermarket cat
>converter may not last as long. Magnaflow is a popular brand and
>should run you under $250 at http://magnaflowcatalyticconverter.com/home.php
>
>Catalytic converters tend not to be available at junkyards, due to the
>precious metals used ones hold.
>
>Are you in California? Like Tegger asked, what year and exact sub-
>model is your Odyssey?

99 Honda Odysey EX

Dillon Pyron

Thus spake Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> :

>On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT), Elle
><honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 3, 7:38?pm, Optimus Prime <jcar...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> What are the side effects? ?In this bad economy I really don't have an
>>> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>>
>>Aftermarket online will save you money, though the aftermarket cat
>>converter may not last as long. Magnaflow is a popular brand and
>>should run you under $250 at http://magnaflowcatalyticconverter.com/home.php
>>
>>Catalytic converters tend not to be available at junkyards, due to the
>>precious metals used ones hold.
>>
>>Are you in California? Like Tegger asked, what year and exact sub-
>>model is your Odyssey?
>
>99 Honda Odysey EX

Mileage and exact date of purchase? I could have sworn they had a
10/100K emissions warranty.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

rd

"Optimus Prime" <jcarter@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:crr0a5hi9g8ttmfe8lon748ok17gtav07o@4ax.com...
>
> What are the side effects? In this bad economy I really don't have an
> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>

Yes, leave it alone and it will come home... wagging its tail behind it.

Optimus Prime

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:09:53 -0500, Dillon Pyron
<invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Thus spake Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> :
>
>>On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT), Elle
>><honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 3, 7:38?pm, Optimus Prime <jcar...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> What are the side effects? ?In this bad economy I really don't have an
>>>> extra $800-1000 to spend on new catalytic converter on my Odyssey.
>>>
>>>Aftermarket online will save you money, though the aftermarket cat
>>>converter may not last as long. Magnaflow is a popular brand and
>>>should run you under $250 at http://magnaflowcatalyticconverter.com/home.php
>>>
>>>Catalytic converters tend not to be available at junkyards, due to the
>>>precious metals used ones hold.
>>>
>>>Are you in California? Like Tegger asked, what year and exact sub-
>>>model is your Odyssey?
>>
>>99 Honda Odysey EX
>
>Mileage and exact date of purchase? I could have sworn they had a
>10/100K emissions warranty.

105K, bought it used

Tegger

Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> wrote in
news:k8l8a5h1744s666isdcbgm396hcmjel285@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:09:53 -0500, Dillon Pyron
> <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Thus spake Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> :
>>

>>>
>>>99 Honda Odysey EX
>>
>>Mileage and exact date of purchase? I could have sworn they had a
>>10/100K emissions warranty.



Cats are 8 years 80K except for a few select CA-market '95, '96 and '97
models. On those, the original cat is warranted for 14 years or 150K miles.
(TSB 98-081).



>
> 105K, bought it used
>
>
>



P0420 has just about zero to do with how the engine is performing and
almost 100% with how the cat is performing.

There is a TSB out on this specific vehicle (03-073). Basically, the cat is
toast and needs to be replaced. Thank your federal government's EPA for
that little nugget.

If you are NOT in California, you can get "universal fit" aftermarket cats
for about $200 at any muffler place.

If you are 100% certain the MIL illumination only has (and only ever will
have) the DTC P0420 behind it, and provided you do not have a regular
emissions test in your area, you can safely ignore this DTC and not get the
cat replaced. No damage to the engine will ensue.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Optimus Prime

On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 01:32:08 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv>
wrote:

>Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> wrote in
>news:k8l8a5h1744s666isdcbgm396hcmjel285@4ax.com :
>
>> On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:09:53 -0500, Dillon Pyron
>> <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thus spake Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> :
>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>99 Honda Odysey EX
>>>
>>>Mileage and exact date of purchase? I could have sworn they had a
>>>10/100K emissions warranty.
>
>
>
>Cats are 8 years 80K except for a few select CA-market '95, '96 and '97
>models. On those, the original cat is warranted for 14 years or 150K miles.
>(TSB 98-081).
>
>
>
>>
>> 105K, bought it used
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>P0420 has just about zero to do with how the engine is performing and
>almost 100% with how the cat is performing.
>
>There is a TSB out on this specific vehicle (03-073). Basically, the cat is
>toast and needs to be replaced. Thank your federal government's EPA for
>that little nugget.
>
>If you are NOT in California, you can get "universal fit" aftermarket cats
>for about $200 at any muffler place.
>
>If you are 100% certain the MIL illumination only has (and only ever will
>have) the DTC P0420 behind it, and provided you do not have a regular
>emissions test in your area, you can safely ignore this DTC and not get the
>cat replaced. No damage to the engine will ensue.

That's what I want to hear, thanks.

Dillon Pyron

Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :

>Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> wrote in
>news:k8l8a5h1744s666isdcbgm396hcmjel285@4ax.com :
>
>> On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:09:53 -0500, Dillon Pyron
>> <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thus spake Optimus Prime <jcarter@verizon.net> :
>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>99 Honda Odysey EX
>>>
>>>Mileage and exact date of purchase? I could have sworn they had a
>>>10/100K emissions warranty.
>
>
>
>Cats are 8 years 80K except for a few select CA-market '95, '96 and '97
>models. On those, the original cat is warranted for 14 years or 150K miles.
>(TSB 98-081).

Thank you. What I discovered was thie "10/100K" applied to Carol's
now sold 96 Accord and was due to a recall campaign. She also got a
free service. Recieved the letter 2 weeks after the car was serviced,
date limit was like 3 months out. But the dealership, in the interest
of contiuned use, refunded the charges.

>
>
>
>>
>> 105K, bought it used
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>P0420 has just about zero to do with how the engine is performing and
>almost 100% with how the cat is performing.
>
>There is a TSB out on this specific vehicle (03-073). Basically, the cat is
>toast and needs to be replaced. Thank your federal government's EPA for
>that little nugget.
>
>If you are NOT in California, you can get "universal fit" aftermarket cats
>for about $200 at any muffler place.
>
>If you are 100% certain the MIL illumination only has (and only ever will
>have) the DTC P0420 behind it, and provided you do not have a regular
>emissions test in your area, you can safely ignore this DTC and not get the
>cat replaced. No damage to the engine will ensue.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander