dgk

It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.

http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,7892563.story

C. E. White

"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com...
> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>
> http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,7892563.story

You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that are
stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do with the
difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas. What
does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts are outrageously
expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old Honda parts must be
pretty low.

Ed

Jim Yanik

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:13lvrfj59v43a6@corp.supernews.com:

>
> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com...
>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the
>> 1995 Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.

That's because they've run out of Integra GS-Rs to steal....
>>
>> http://www.newsday.com/services/news...ednesday/longi
>> sland/ny-licars125496908dec12,0,7892563.story
>
> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do
> with the difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old
> Hondas. What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts
> are outrageously expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old
> Honda parts must be pretty low.
>
> Ed
>
>
>

the older cars motors are more easily modified.

they take the motors,transaxles,ECU,seats,doors,front fenders,and other
misc parts,then torch the rest in some field.

These are usually street drag racers who burn up motors trying to get lots
of HP from them,and then steal to get 'new' motors to build up and burn up.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Elle

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote
> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote
>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006
>> (US) is the 1995
>> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have.
>> Oh joy.

> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of
> thieves that are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I
> suppose this has more to do with the difficulty of
> stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas.
> What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord?

I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves steal
the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
obviously short-term drive.

dgk

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:16:51 -0700, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

>"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote
>> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote
>>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006
>>> (US) is the 1995
>>> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have.
>>> Oh joy.
>
>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of
>> thieves that are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I
>> suppose this has more to do with the difficulty of
>> stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas.
>> What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord?
>
>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves steal
>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>obviously short-term drive.
>
But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but with the
springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much fun to drive
anymore.

I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because the car is
not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.

Elle

"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote
>>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves
>>steal
>>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>>obviously short-term drive.
>>
> But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but
> with the
> springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much
> fun to drive
> anymore.

I think the ease of theft may outweigh the suspension
quality, hp under the hood, etc. These guys often have just
a few minutes to get the wheels moving, right? If I were a
car thief out for thrills, I would not be so choosy.

> I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because
> the car is
> not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.

Indeed. One of the advantages of an older car.

observer

C. E. White wrote:

> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that are
> stealing 13 and 17 year old cars.

Well, since the demographic interested in those cars is the under 20 lot
then the intelligence of the thieves can explain itself - ever see a kid
with the oversized baseball cap, moon boot running shoes, puffy jacket
and size 50 pants look like anything other than a moron? So stealing a
17 year old car would seem like a good idea.

jim beam

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:13lvrfj59v43a6@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com...
>>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the
>>> 1995 Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>
> That's because they've run out of Integra GS-Rs to steal....
>>> http://www.newsday.com/services/news...ednesday/longi
>>> sland/ny-licars125496908dec12,0,7892563.story
>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
>> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do
>> with the difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old
>> Hondas. What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts
>> are outrageously expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old
>> Honda parts must be pretty low.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>
> the older cars motors are more easily modified.
>
> they take the motors,transaxles,ECU,seats,doors,front fenders,and other
> misc parts,then torch the rest in some field.
>
> These are usually street drag racers who burn up motors trying to get lots
> of HP from them,and then steal to get 'new' motors to build up and burn up.
>

you got it!

Jim Yanik

jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:9oGdnfafA8nZP_3anZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:13lvrfj59v43a6@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com...
>>>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the
>>>> 1995 Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh
>>>> joy.
>>
>> That's because they've run out of Integra GS-Rs to steal....
>>>> http://www.newsday.com/services/news.../wednesday/lon
>>>> gi sland/ny-licars125496908dec12,0,7892563.story
>>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
>>> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do
>>> with the difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of
>>> old Hondas. What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda
>>> parts are outrageously expensive, but surely the demand for used 17
>>> year old Honda parts must be pretty low.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> the older cars motors are more easily modified.
>>
>> they take the motors,transaxles,ECU,seats,doors,front fenders,and
>> other misc parts,then torch the rest in some field.
>>
>> These are usually street drag racers who burn up motors trying to get
>> lots of HP from them,and then steal to get 'new' motors to build up
>> and burn up.
>>
>
> you got it!
>

Personal experience;
I USED to own an Integra GS-R. stolen June 29th of this year.

I'd like Florida laws like Texas has concerning shooting people stealing
your property.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik

observer <not_kjhsfd7ywhj@something.com> wrote in
news:fjpvoa$nmu$1@aioe.org:

> C. E. White wrote:
>
>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
>> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars.
>
> Well, since the demographic interested in those cars is the under 20
> lot then the intelligence of the thieves can explain itself - ever see
> a kid with the oversized baseball cap, moon boot running shoes, puffy
> jacket and size 50 pants look like anything other than a moron? So
> stealing a 17 year old car would seem like a good idea.
>

just because the car is old doesn't mean it's parts are not worth
stealing,to the dishonest.

Thieves went to the trouble of stealing the plastic "Acura" and "GS-R"
badges from my 94 GS-R. $60 bucks at the dealers.I didn't replace them.
Personally,I would rather cars not have such badges;they are a PITA to wax
around.I like the "no chrome" look,too.

Then they took the ECU;$800 and 6 weeks wait.
Then they took the whole car. 3 weeks to get paid for the total loss.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:13m1056pdgc0b2f@corp.supernews.com:

> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote
>>>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>>>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves
>>>steal
>>>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>>>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>>>obviously short-term drive.
>>>
>> But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but
>> with the
>> springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much
>> fun to drive
>> anymore.
>
> I think the ease of theft may outweigh the suspension
> quality, hp under the hood, etc. These guys often have just
> a few minutes to get the wheels moving, right? If I were a
> car thief out for thrills, I would not be so choosy.
>
>> I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because
>> the car is
>> not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.

The Hell it's not worth comprehensive coverage...the cost to replace broken
windows,radio,stolen ECU,or like one girl's GS-R;stolen seats,cold air
intake,wheels and tires....
Then there's the major nuisance of your car not working until the missing
parts are replaced.

I paid less than $100 a year for $100 deductible.WELL worth it.

>
> Indeed. One of the advantages of an older car.
>
>
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Grumpy AuContraire

Elle wrote:
> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote
>
>>>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>>>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves
>>>steal
>>>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>>>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>>>obviously short-term drive.
>>>
>>
>>But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but
>>with the
>>springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much
>>fun to drive
>>anymore.
>
>
> I think the ease of theft may outweigh the suspension
> quality, hp under the hood, etc. These guys often have just
> a few minutes to get the wheels moving, right? If I were a
> car thief out for thrills, I would not be so choosy.
>
>
>>I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because
>>the car is
>>not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.
>
>
> Indeed. One of the advantages of an older car.
>



One has to admire those that continue to run their old cars.

No longer trapped in the "trade 'n pay" morass, they maximize value and
focus on spending money elsewhere rather than feed the monetary squirrel
cage.

I only owned one new car in my life, a 1961 VW beetle. That car held its
value better than any other vehicle of its time but still, it rusted
away long ago.

Besides, tinkering with your old heap of iron helps to keep you from
getting into other trouble... (Hear that Teg?)

JT

Grumpy AuContraire

> Personal experience;
> I USED to own an Integra GS-R. stolen June 29th of this year.
>
> I'd like Florida laws like Texas has concerning shooting people stealing
> your property.
>


Bang, bang, bang, <plop>... Bang, bang!

<G>

JT

Austin, TX

Grumpy AuContraire

Jim Yanik wrote:

> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:13m1056pdgc0b2f@corp.supernews.com:
>
>
>>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote
>>
>>>>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>>>>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves
>>>>steal
>>>>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>>>>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>>>>obviously short-term drive.
>>>>
>>>
>>>But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but
>>>with the
>>>springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much
>>>fun to drive
>>>anymore.
>>
>>I think the ease of theft may outweigh the suspension
>>quality, hp under the hood, etc. These guys often have just
>>a few minutes to get the wheels moving, right? If I were a
>>car thief out for thrills, I would not be so choosy.
>>
>>
>>>I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because
>>>the car is
>>>not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.
>
>
> The Hell it's not worth comprehensive coverage...the cost to replace broken
> windows,radio,stolen ECU,or like one girl's GS-R;stolen seats,cold air
> intake,wheels and tires....
> Then there's the major nuisance of your car not working until the missing
> parts are replaced.
>
> I paid less than $100 a year for $100 deductible.WELL worth it.
>


I maintain comprehensive on all my old cars. Hit a deer, you get paid. I
pay about $30 each per year for the coverage..

JT

Elle

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
> One has to admire those that continue to run their old
> cars.
>
> No longer trapped in the "trade 'n pay" morass, they
> maximize value and focus on spending money elsewhere
> rather than feed the monetary squirrel cage.
>
> I only owned one new car in my life, a 1961 VW beetle.
> That car held its value better than any other vehicle of
> its time but still, it rusted away long ago.

I think I am getting away from the thinking that, if driven
into the ground, a new car is as economical as an old one. I
have owned three cars. The last two were purchased spanking
new. But now having done a great deal of work on my current
wheels (1991 Civic) over the last several years and saving a
pile of money, I wonder whether buying used and driving it
into the ground is way more savings.

> Besides, tinkering with your old heap of iron helps to
> keep you from getting into other trouble...

True here.