I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
12-14-2007, 12:26 PM
#31
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Tegger wrote:
> babbler <spock@beamit.up> wrote in news:fjsvoo$kf2$1@aioe.org:
>
>
>>Tegger wrote:
>> This was true even in the now Communist republic of Kanada,
>>
>>>where I am unfortunately forced to reside.
>>>
>>
>>then get the out. No one is forcing you to stay here.
>>
>
>
>
> True, but /leaving's/ not the problem. Getting /into/ the US is the
> problem.
>
>
Heh... Fly down to messyco and sneak across from that end. If you have
a valuable "skill," you'll have it made!
(Lawn care experience helps...)
Oh, don't bother learning engrish... That'll hold you back..
JT
12-14-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
dgk wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:13:01 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's 300K
>>anniversary...
>>
>><G>
>>
>>JT
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Can I just do that? My 91's roof does lack something in shinyness and,
> well, consistency. I thought about having a paint job done but it's
> expensive and if I were going to spend that amount ($700 or so I
> think) I'd rather look into having the shocks done. But spray paint,
> that I can handle.
>
> Now that I think about it, there is some sort of paint sprayer in the
> garage. I'll have to open the box and see what it is.
Just go down to Harbor Freight for the gun/compressor and eBay for cheap
single stage paint.
JT
12-14-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:13m59vjnrc0oid0
@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>
>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most
>> everything I'd
>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>
> I was going to post that inability to get parts might be the
> death knell for my 91 Civic. The fact that slhondaparts.com
> stopped selling parts for cars 1991 and earlier is a bad
> sign.
They just won't carry them, that's all. Honda corporate still has most of
them somewhere. I suspect there's only so much work San Leandro is willing
to perform and still do business on the Internet.
Many parts for my car must now be shipped in from the various central
warehouses, usually the Vancouver one in British Columbia and the Montreal
one in Quebec. One part I ordered once had to be shipped directly from
Japan. In addition, Honda Canada will sometimes purchase parts from
American Honda, piggybacking on AH's greater stockpiles.
As long as demand exists, Honda will continue to commission a production
run until the newest car it's for is 20 years old, or even older. Sometimes
they will save up backorders until they figure they've got enough demand to
justify a new run, meaning it may take months for your brand-new part to
arrive.
Mechanical parts normally remain in good supply for a very long time. Honda
will help things along with "rationalization", where they will retool one
part so it fits more models than it originally was meant to fit, extending
parts availability. Distributor rotors and brake pads are good examples of
this phenomenon.
The kind of parts that are outright discontinued and no longer in stock are
usually the sort nobody ever replaces, like the heater intake cover inside
the cowl, and many trim and interior pieces. Body parts are also often
discontinued because there's usually a goodly stock of used parts in
wrecking yards, so nobody buys new ones.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>
>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most
>> everything I'd
>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>
> I was going to post that inability to get parts might be the
> death knell for my 91 Civic. The fact that slhondaparts.com
> stopped selling parts for cars 1991 and earlier is a bad
> sign.
They just won't carry them, that's all. Honda corporate still has most of
them somewhere. I suspect there's only so much work San Leandro is willing
to perform and still do business on the Internet.
Many parts for my car must now be shipped in from the various central
warehouses, usually the Vancouver one in British Columbia and the Montreal
one in Quebec. One part I ordered once had to be shipped directly from
Japan. In addition, Honda Canada will sometimes purchase parts from
American Honda, piggybacking on AH's greater stockpiles.
As long as demand exists, Honda will continue to commission a production
run until the newest car it's for is 20 years old, or even older. Sometimes
they will save up backorders until they figure they've got enough demand to
justify a new run, meaning it may take months for your brand-new part to
arrive.
Mechanical parts normally remain in good supply for a very long time. Honda
will help things along with "rationalization", where they will retool one
part so it fits more models than it originally was meant to fit, extending
parts availability. Distributor rotors and brake pads are good examples of
this phenomenon.
The kind of parts that are outright discontinued and no longer in stock are
usually the sort nobody ever replaces, like the heater intake cover inside
the cowl, and many trim and interior pieces. Body parts are also often
discontinued because there's usually a goodly stock of used parts in
wrecking yards, so nobody buys new ones.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2007, 02:21 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:S0z8j.46394$MJ6.5636@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> babbler <spock@beamit.up> wrote in news:fjsvoo$kf2$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>> This was true even in the now Communist republic of Kanada,
>>>
>>>>where I am unfortunately forced to reside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>then get the out. No one is forcing you to stay here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> True, but /leaving's/ not the problem. Getting /into/ the US is the
>> problem.
>>
>>
>
>
> Heh... Fly down to messyco and sneak across from that end. If you
> have a valuable "skill," you'll have it made!
>
> (Lawn care experience helps...)
O habilidades de cosechar lechuga...
>
> Oh, don't bother learning engrish... That'll hold you back..
>
No hablo Ingles, hombre.
Ahora debo comprar un lowrider. Doink!
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:S0z8j.46394$MJ6.5636@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> babbler <spock@beamit.up> wrote in news:fjsvoo$kf2$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>> This was true even in the now Communist republic of Kanada,
>>>
>>>>where I am unfortunately forced to reside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>then get the out. No one is forcing you to stay here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> True, but /leaving's/ not the problem. Getting /into/ the US is the
>> problem.
>>
>>
>
>
> Heh... Fly down to messyco and sneak across from that end. If you
> have a valuable "skill," you'll have it made!
>
> (Lawn care experience helps...)
O habilidades de cosechar lechuga...
>
> Oh, don't bother learning engrish... That'll hold you back..
>
No hablo Ingles, hombre.
Ahora debo comprar un lowrider. Doink!
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
Elle wrote
>> I was going to post that inability to get parts might be
>> the
>> death knell for my 91 Civic. The fact that
>> slhondaparts.com
>> stopped selling parts for cars 1991 and earlier is a bad
>> sign.
>
>
>
> They just won't carry them, that's all. Honda corporate
> still has most of
> them somewhere. I suspect there's only so much work San
> Leandro is willing
> to perform and still do business on the Internet.
>
> Many parts for my car must now be shipped in from the
> various central
> warehouses, usually the Vancouver one in British Columbia
> and the Montreal
> one in Quebec.
Similarly, Majestic Honda in Rhode Island U.S. has long
cautioned customers that occasionally it will have to have a
part shipped from some central warehouse before shipping to
the customer. So I tend to believe you're right.
> The kind of parts that are outright discontinued and no
> longer in stock are
> usually the sort nobody ever replaces, like the heater
> intake cover inside
> the cowl, and many trim and interior pieces. Body parts
> are also often
> discontinued because there's usually a goodly stock of
> used parts in
> wrecking yards, so nobody buys new ones.
Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the woods
has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for critical
repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed on
top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
"investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are a
great education. (I am one fun date?)
Elle wrote
>> I was going to post that inability to get parts might be
>> the
>> death knell for my 91 Civic. The fact that
>> slhondaparts.com
>> stopped selling parts for cars 1991 and earlier is a bad
>> sign.
>
>
>
> They just won't carry them, that's all. Honda corporate
> still has most of
> them somewhere. I suspect there's only so much work San
> Leandro is willing
> to perform and still do business on the Internet.
>
> Many parts for my car must now be shipped in from the
> various central
> warehouses, usually the Vancouver one in British Columbia
> and the Montreal
> one in Quebec.
Similarly, Majestic Honda in Rhode Island U.S. has long
cautioned customers that occasionally it will have to have a
part shipped from some central warehouse before shipping to
the customer. So I tend to believe you're right.
> The kind of parts that are outright discontinued and no
> longer in stock are
> usually the sort nobody ever replaces, like the heater
> intake cover inside
> the cowl, and many trim and interior pieces. Body parts
> are also often
> discontinued because there's usually a goodly stock of
> used parts in
> wrecking yards, so nobody buys new ones.
Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the woods
has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for critical
repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed on
top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
"investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are a
great education. (I am one fun date?)
12-14-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:13m5qevct030he5
@corp.supernews.com:
>
> Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the woods
> has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for critical
> repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed on
> top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
> "investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
> something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are a
> great education. (I am one fun date?)
>
>
I have a fantastic U-Pull type yard only a few miles from me. Lots of older
Integras, Accords and Civics in various states of disassembly. And like you
say, a great education in how stuff goes on and comes off.
And some of those crashed cars...Really sobering. The worst are those with
blood on the seats and no more driver's footwell left...
The only problem for me is that most of my parts are in better shape than
the ones on the wrecks, so I usually end up buying new anyway...
When the snow melts and the mud dries up, I should take some pics of this
place.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@corp.supernews.com:
>
> Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the woods
> has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for critical
> repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed on
> top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
> "investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
> something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are a
> great education. (I am one fun date?)
>
>
I have a fantastic U-Pull type yard only a few miles from me. Lots of older
Integras, Accords and Civics in various states of disassembly. And like you
say, a great education in how stuff goes on and comes off.
And some of those crashed cars...Really sobering. The worst are those with
blood on the seats and no more driver's footwell left...
The only problem for me is that most of my parts are in better shape than
the ones on the wrecks, so I usually end up buying new anyway...
When the snow melts and the mud dries up, I should take some pics of this
place.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:R_y8j.46388$MJ6.28473@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>> news:1xm8j.255497$kj1.39969@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Even when one does not drive a great deal, the longer you keep your
>>>vehicle the farther ahead of the curve you are. Most manufacturers
>>>don't even expect the average car to last ten years. You can figure
>>>on a 10% attrition rate yearly and by the time ten years comes along,
>>>way less than 50% of that year's model have bit the dust.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It's interesting that Honda will continue to make and stock parts as
>> long as there is demand. My local parts guy tells me he still orders
>> parts for Acuras from the '80s.
>>
>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most everything I'd
>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>>
>
> Yes, Honda almost appears alone in that regard. I can still order
> most parts for the Gen 2 Civics although much better bargains can be
> had on eBay for closeouts etc.
>
>
>
>>>The sheeple, most of whom subscribe to "Keepin' up with the Smiths,"
>>>play an important role in the economy. Oddballs such as you and
>>>me/Elle etc. reap the benefits of other people's investments, er,
>>>spending.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just like the old girl. I like knowing the car's history, and
>> planning new projects for her. In the spring it's timing belt time
>> again. :^)
>>
>> Plus, to me anyway, there's a certain coolness that derives from
>> /not/ following the herd.
>>
>
> Knowing what you have is half the battle. The other half is not having
> a burning desire to keep up with style.
>
>
>
>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>300K anniversary...
>>>
>>><G>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And cover up all that original paint? No way José.
>>
>> I did just spend $500 having the hood professionally repainted last
>> year. I need to have it done every five years or so on account of
>> stone chips.
>>
>>
>
but when the interior and trim(plastics) begins degrading,and the car has a
million rattles and squeaks,then it's nice to get a new car.
you folks up North don't have the intense sun degradation we have in the
southern US.
OTOH,you have salted roads in the winter....
(although living near the seacoast also corrodes autos.)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:R_y8j.46388$MJ6.28473@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>> news:1xm8j.255497$kj1.39969@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Even when one does not drive a great deal, the longer you keep your
>>>vehicle the farther ahead of the curve you are. Most manufacturers
>>>don't even expect the average car to last ten years. You can figure
>>>on a 10% attrition rate yearly and by the time ten years comes along,
>>>way less than 50% of that year's model have bit the dust.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It's interesting that Honda will continue to make and stock parts as
>> long as there is demand. My local parts guy tells me he still orders
>> parts for Acuras from the '80s.
>>
>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most everything I'd
>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>>
>
> Yes, Honda almost appears alone in that regard. I can still order
> most parts for the Gen 2 Civics although much better bargains can be
> had on eBay for closeouts etc.
>
>
>
>>>The sheeple, most of whom subscribe to "Keepin' up with the Smiths,"
>>>play an important role in the economy. Oddballs such as you and
>>>me/Elle etc. reap the benefits of other people's investments, er,
>>>spending.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just like the old girl. I like knowing the car's history, and
>> planning new projects for her. In the spring it's timing belt time
>> again. :^)
>>
>> Plus, to me anyway, there's a certain coolness that derives from
>> /not/ following the herd.
>>
>
> Knowing what you have is half the battle. The other half is not having
> a burning desire to keep up with style.
>
>
>
>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>300K anniversary...
>>>
>>><G>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And cover up all that original paint? No way José.
>>
>> I did just spend $500 having the hood professionally repainted last
>> year. I need to have it done every five years or so on account of
>> stone chips.
>>
>>
>
but when the interior and trim(plastics) begins degrading,and the car has a
million rattles and squeaks,then it's nice to get a new car.
you folks up North don't have the intense sun degradation we have in the
southern US.
OTOH,you have salted roads in the winter....
(although living near the seacoast also corrodes autos.)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
12-14-2007, 08:04 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:S0z8j.46394$MJ6.5636@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> babbler <spock@beamit.up> wrote in news:fjsvoo$kf2$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>> This was true even in the now Communist republic of Kanada,
>>>
>>>>where I am unfortunately forced to reside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>then get the out. No one is forcing you to stay here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> True, but /leaving's/ not the problem. Getting /into/ the US is the
>> problem.
>>
>>
>
>
> Heh... Fly down to messyco and sneak across from that end. If you have
> a valuable "skill," you'll have it made!
>
> (Lawn care experience helps...)
>
> Oh, don't bother learning engrish... That'll hold you back..
>
> JT
>
>
>
I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US citizens
or get green cards.
Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. 8-)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:S0z8j.46394$MJ6.5636@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> babbler <spock@beamit.up> wrote in news:fjsvoo$kf2$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>> This was true even in the now Communist republic of Kanada,
>>>
>>>>where I am unfortunately forced to reside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>then get the out. No one is forcing you to stay here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> True, but /leaving's/ not the problem. Getting /into/ the US is the
>> problem.
>>
>>
>
>
> Heh... Fly down to messyco and sneak across from that end. If you have
> a valuable "skill," you'll have it made!
>
> (Lawn care experience helps...)
>
> Oh, don't bother learning engrish... That'll hold you back..
>
> JT
>
>
>
I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US citizens
or get green cards.
Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. 8-)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
12-14-2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news
2z8j.46398$MJ6.10266@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
> dgk wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:13:01 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
>> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>300K anniversary...
>>>
>>><G>
>>>
>>>JT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I just do that? My 91's roof does lack something in shinyness
>> and, well, consistency. I thought about having a paint job done but
>> it's expensive and if I were going to spend that amount ($700 or so I
>> think) I'd rather look into having the shocks done. But spray paint,
>> that I can handle.
>>
>> Now that I think about it, there is some sort of paint sprayer in the
>> garage. I'll have to open the box and see what it is.
>
>
> Just go down to Harbor Freight for the gun/compressor and eBay for
> cheap single stage paint.
>
> JT
>
>
there's always Earl Schieib(sp?) and similar places.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news
2z8j.46398$MJ6.10266@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:>
>
> dgk wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:13:01 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
>> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>300K anniversary...
>>>
>>><G>
>>>
>>>JT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I just do that? My 91's roof does lack something in shinyness
>> and, well, consistency. I thought about having a paint job done but
>> it's expensive and if I were going to spend that amount ($700 or so I
>> think) I'd rather look into having the shocks done. But spray paint,
>> that I can handle.
>>
>> Now that I think about it, there is some sort of paint sprayer in the
>> garage. I'll have to open the box and see what it is.
>
>
> Just go down to Harbor Freight for the gun/compressor and eBay for
> cheap single stage paint.
>
> JT
>
>
there's always Earl Schieib(sp?) and similar places.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
12-14-2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9A06CBEEF3F10jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:R_y8j.46388$MJ6.28473@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>>
>>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>>> news:1xm8j.255497$kj1.39969@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Even when one does not drive a great deal, the longer you keep your
>>>>vehicle the farther ahead of the curve you are. Most manufacturers
>>>>don't even expect the average car to last ten years. You can figure
>>>>on a 10% attrition rate yearly and by the time ten years comes
>>>>along, way less than 50% of that year's model have bit the dust.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's interesting that Honda will continue to make and stock parts as
>>> long as there is demand. My local parts guy tells me he still orders
>>> parts for Acuras from the '80s.
>>>
>>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most everything I'd
>>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, Honda almost appears alone in that regard. I can still order
>> most parts for the Gen 2 Civics although much better bargains can be
>> had on eBay for closeouts etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>The sheeple, most of whom subscribe to "Keepin' up with the Smiths,"
>>>>play an important role in the economy. Oddballs such as you and
>>>>me/Elle etc. reap the benefits of other people's investments, er,
>>>>spending.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just like the old girl. I like knowing the car's history, and
>>> planning new projects for her. In the spring it's timing belt time
>>> again. :^)
>>>
>>> Plus, to me anyway, there's a certain coolness that derives from
>>> /not/ following the herd.
>>>
>>
>> Knowing what you have is half the battle. The other half is not
>> having a burning desire to keep up with style.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>>300K anniversary...
>>>>
>>>><G>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And cover up all that original paint? No way José.
>>>
>>> I did just spend $500 having the hood professionally repainted last
>>> year. I need to have it done every five years or so on account of
>>> stone chips.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> but when the interior and trim(plastics) begins degrading,
Cold weather does have its advantages. Interior is perfect outside of
sun fading and localized salt deposits in the carpets.
> and the car has a million rattles and squeaks,
My own ears are very poor and unreliable. One of them does not work, the
other has a hearing aid stuck in it. For these reasons I cannot tell
what rattles/squeaks my car has or where they come from if present.
My wife, whose hearing is thankfully impeccable, tells me my car has no
rattles or squeaks of any kind, which I find kind of astonishing. There
is plenty of mechanical noise, but no rattles or squeaks. Well, there is
just one sort of a sizzle noise that occasionally comes from the
driver's seat belt upper mount, but that goes away if you put the belt
on or push on the rear quarter trim with your hand.
> then it's nice to get a new car.
New car:
Air bags galore
Side air bag OPDS
OBD-II
Intrusive EVAP system
P0420
Two oxygen sensors
Everything electronic
Even more plastic than I've got.
Old car:
You need to ask?
No thanks. I'll just live with the old-car foibles. Yes, old cars can be
annoying, but new cars contain a fright factor I don't care to get
involved with just now.
Treat the old girl like the old girl she is and you'll be fine. I can't
afford to peel rubber at every stoplight like I used to any more, but
then again I'm not 29 years old any more either...
> you folks up North don't have the intense sun degradation we have in
> the southern US.
> OTOH,you have salted roads in the winter....
Salted roads are worse than a crumbly, sagging headliner and cracked
dash. Believe me.
> (although living near the seacoast also corrodes autos.)
>
I have a pic somewhere I took two summers ago of a chain link fence at
Redondo Beach. The side facing the ocean is corroded to holes. The other
side still has the zinc coating on it. Amazing.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns9A06CBEEF3F10jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:R_y8j.46388$MJ6.28473@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>>
>>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>>> news:1xm8j.255497$kj1.39969@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Even when one does not drive a great deal, the longer you keep your
>>>>vehicle the farther ahead of the curve you are. Most manufacturers
>>>>don't even expect the average car to last ten years. You can figure
>>>>on a 10% attrition rate yearly and by the time ten years comes
>>>>along, way less than 50% of that year's model have bit the dust.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's interesting that Honda will continue to make and stock parts as
>>> long as there is demand. My local parts guy tells me he still orders
>>> parts for Acuras from the '80s.
>>>
>>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most everything I'd
>>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, Honda almost appears alone in that regard. I can still order
>> most parts for the Gen 2 Civics although much better bargains can be
>> had on eBay for closeouts etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>The sheeple, most of whom subscribe to "Keepin' up with the Smiths,"
>>>>play an important role in the economy. Oddballs such as you and
>>>>me/Elle etc. reap the benefits of other people's investments, er,
>>>>spending.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just like the old girl. I like knowing the car's history, and
>>> planning new projects for her. In the spring it's timing belt time
>>> again. :^)
>>>
>>> Plus, to me anyway, there's a certain coolness that derives from
>>> /not/ following the herd.
>>>
>>
>> Knowing what you have is half the battle. The other half is not
>> having a burning desire to keep up with style.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>>300K anniversary...
>>>>
>>>><G>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And cover up all that original paint? No way José.
>>>
>>> I did just spend $500 having the hood professionally repainted last
>>> year. I need to have it done every five years or so on account of
>>> stone chips.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> but when the interior and trim(plastics) begins degrading,
Cold weather does have its advantages. Interior is perfect outside of
sun fading and localized salt deposits in the carpets.
> and the car has a million rattles and squeaks,
My own ears are very poor and unreliable. One of them does not work, the
other has a hearing aid stuck in it. For these reasons I cannot tell
what rattles/squeaks my car has or where they come from if present.
My wife, whose hearing is thankfully impeccable, tells me my car has no
rattles or squeaks of any kind, which I find kind of astonishing. There
is plenty of mechanical noise, but no rattles or squeaks. Well, there is
just one sort of a sizzle noise that occasionally comes from the
driver's seat belt upper mount, but that goes away if you put the belt
on or push on the rear quarter trim with your hand.
> then it's nice to get a new car.
New car:
Air bags galore
Side air bag OPDS
OBD-II
Intrusive EVAP system
P0420
Two oxygen sensors
Everything electronic
Even more plastic than I've got.
Old car:
You need to ask?
No thanks. I'll just live with the old-car foibles. Yes, old cars can be
annoying, but new cars contain a fright factor I don't care to get
involved with just now.
Treat the old girl like the old girl she is and you'll be fine. I can't
afford to peel rubber at every stoplight like I used to any more, but
then again I'm not 29 years old any more either...
> you folks up North don't have the intense sun degradation we have in
> the southern US.
> OTOH,you have salted roads in the winter....
Salted roads are worse than a crumbly, sagging headliner and cracked
dash. Believe me.
> (although living near the seacoast also corrodes autos.)
>
I have a pic somewhere I took two summers ago of a chain link fence at
Redondo Beach. The side facing the ocean is corroded to holes. The other
side still has the zinc coating on it. Amazing.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns9A06CC348503Ejyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
> I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US
> citizens or get green cards.
That's because there's lttle difference between Canada and the US. Not like
the difference between the Estados Unidos and Meh-ee-co.
> Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. 8-)
>
Canada: Hollywood's minor leagues.
Somebody fairly knowledgeable once told me Hollywood is half Canadian and
half Jewish.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns9A06CC348503Ejyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
> I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US
> citizens or get green cards.
That's because there's lttle difference between Canada and the US. Not like
the difference between the Estados Unidos and Meh-ee-co.
> Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. 8-)
>
Canada: Hollywood's minor leagues.
Somebody fairly knowledgeable once told me Hollywood is half Canadian and
half Jewish.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2007, 09:09 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns9A06CC8782087jyanikkuanet@
64.209.0.85:
>
> there's always Earl Schieib(sp?) and similar places.
>
Scheib.
We have them up here too, and they're as shitty as yours.
I swear they use Crayola watercolor paints.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
64.209.0.85:
>
> there's always Earl Schieib(sp?) and similar places.
>
Scheib.
We have them up here too, and they're as shitty as yours.
I swear they use Crayola watercolor paints.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2007, 09:14 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A06D69A812B9tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9A06CC348503Ejyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
>
>
>> I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US
>> citizens or get green cards.
>
>
>
> That's because there's lttle difference between Canada and the US. Not
> like the difference between the Estados Unidos and Meh-ee-co.
>
>
>
>> Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. 8-)
>>
>
>
> Canada: Hollywood's minor leagues.
>
> Somebody fairly knowledgeable once told me Hollywood is half Canadian
> and half Jewish.
>
>
I'm still undecided whether Pam Anderson's coming to the US was a plus or
minus....
I still get a laugh from the "McKenzie Brothers",eh? 8-)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns9A06D69A812B9tegger@207.14.116.130:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9A06CC348503Ejyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
>
>
>> I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US
>> citizens or get green cards.
>
>
>
> That's because there's lttle difference between Canada and the US. Not
> like the difference between the Estados Unidos and Meh-ee-co.
>
>
>
>> Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. 8-)
>>
>
>
> Canada: Hollywood's minor leagues.
>
> Somebody fairly knowledgeable once told me Hollywood is half Canadian
> and half Jewish.
>
>
I'm still undecided whether Pam Anderson's coming to the US was a plus or
minus....
I still get a laugh from the "McKenzie Brothers",eh? 8-)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
12-14-2007, 09:34 PM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the
>> woods
>> has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for
>> critical
>> repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed
>> on
>> top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
>> "investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
>> something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are
>> a
>> great education. (I am one fun date?)
>>
>>
>
>
>
> I have a fantastic U-Pull type yard only a few miles from
> me. Lots of older
> Integras, Accords and Civics in various states of
> disassembly. And like you
> say, a great education in how stuff goes on and comes off.
>
> And some of those crashed cars...Really sobering. The
> worst are those with
> blood on the seats and no more driver's footwell left...
Ha... when I took a vocational manual transmission course a
few years ago, some of the young fellows and I had a mean
chuckle about coming upon cars like this.
My (forme) local U-Pull-It is amazingly well-organized. One
checks in, paying a buck, and a clerk will print out were
all the cars of a certain year, model, and make are parked.
They change the stock about every three months.
> The only problem for me is that most of my parts are in
> better shape than
> the ones on the wrecks, so I usually end up buying new
> anyway...
I know what you mean. Still.
> When the snow melts and the mud dries up, I should take
> some pics of this
> place.
I am hoping I can find another such yard in my new location.
Still out West, but way more city driving. My miles/gallon
has shot down to 35-38-ish.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the
>> woods
>> has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for
>> critical
>> repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed
>> on
>> top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
>> "investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
>> something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are
>> a
>> great education. (I am one fun date?)
>>
>>
>
>
>
> I have a fantastic U-Pull type yard only a few miles from
> me. Lots of older
> Integras, Accords and Civics in various states of
> disassembly. And like you
> say, a great education in how stuff goes on and comes off.
>
> And some of those crashed cars...Really sobering. The
> worst are those with
> blood on the seats and no more driver's footwell left...
Ha... when I took a vocational manual transmission course a
few years ago, some of the young fellows and I had a mean
chuckle about coming upon cars like this.
My (forme) local U-Pull-It is amazingly well-organized. One
checks in, paying a buck, and a clerk will print out were
all the cars of a certain year, model, and make are parked.
They change the stock about every three months.
> The only problem for me is that most of my parts are in
> better shape than
> the ones on the wrecks, so I usually end up buying new
> anyway...
I know what you mean. Still.
> When the snow melts and the mud dries up, I should take
> some pics of this
> place.
I am hoping I can find another such yard in my new location.
Still out West, but way more city driving. My miles/gallon
has shot down to 35-38-ish.
12-15-2007, 12:40 AM
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Re: I'm #2 !!! Most stolen car
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:06 -0500, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com.. .
>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
>> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>>
>> http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,7892563.story
>
>You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that are
>stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do with the
>difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas. What
>does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts are outrageously
>expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old Honda parts must be
>pretty low.
Few years back had my OEM radio stolen. Had to have a resale value of
$5. Broke a window to get it, cost me $50 to replace. Dumbshit
economics. Never did replace the radio before I sold the car.
J.
<cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com.. .
>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
>> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>>
>> http://www.newsday.com/services/news...,7892563.story
>
>You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that are
>stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do with the
>difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas. What
>does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts are outrageously
>expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old Honda parts must be
>pretty low.
Few years back had my OEM radio stolen. Had to have a resale value of
$5. Broke a window to get it, cost me $50 to replace. Dumbshit
economics. Never did replace the radio before I sold the car.
J.