Maguires Garage

I have recently set-up a website with my uncle. He runs an importing
business to the UK from around the world.

I know next to nothing about the car business and my uncle knows next
to nothing about IT so we have come to a compromise over the site.

One of my friends recommended news groups as an excellent forum in
which I could research the business and tap some of the expert
knowledge that is out there. It is hard to find the hybrid of car
experts and computer literacy through any other medium.

I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and
let me know what you think about the site - design, layout,
prices...........everything and anything!

I can assure you that I am not touting for new business but am
carrying out research to provide my uncle with the best possible
chance of accessing the web market (which I've promised him).

Thanks for reading this mail and I can only apologise to anyone that
thinks this is an inappropriate posting.

Cheers
James
info@maguiresgarage.co.uk
http://www.maguiresgarage.co.uk

Harry Smith

Maguires Garage wrote:
>
> I have recently set-up a website with my uncle. He runs an importing
> business to the UK from around the world.
>
> I know next to nothing about the car business and my uncle knows next
> to nothing about IT so we have come to a compromise over the site.
>
> One of my friends recommended news groups as an excellent forum in
> which I could research the business and tap some of the expert
> knowledge that is out there. It is hard to find the hybrid of car
> experts and computer literacy through any other medium.
>
> I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and
> let me know what you think about the site - design, layout,
> prices...........everything and anything!
>
> I can assure you that I am not touting for new business but am
> carrying out research to provide my uncle with the best possible
> chance of accessing the web market (which I've promised him).
>
> Thanks for reading this mail and I can only apologise to anyone that
> thinks this is an inappropriate posting.
>
> Cheers
> James
> info@maguiresgarage.co.uk
> http://www.maguiresgarage.co.uk
===========
James,

Nice home page, but the "Welcome..." box should automatically clear from
the screen in a few seconds -- on my browser at least, it persists,
blocking some of the graphics.

More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft's
software ("FrontPage"?). If that is true, then you will be excluding
various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft's code
constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal
favorite) to freeze up or crash. Trying to access your "Forefront" page
produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example.

Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don't have any
observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I
don't patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser
allowed.

Good luck,
Harry

Dave Kelsen

On 4/12/2004 11:16 PM Harry Smith spake these words of knowledge:

> Maguires Garage wrote:
>>
>> I have recently set-up a website with my uncle. He runs an importing
>> business to the UK from around the world.
>>
>> I know next to nothing about the car business and my uncle knows next
>> to nothing about IT so we have come to a compromise over the site.
>>
>> One of my friends recommended news groups as an excellent forum in
>> which I could research the business and tap some of the expert
>> knowledge that is out there. It is hard to find the hybrid of car
>> experts and computer literacy through any other medium.
>>
>> I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and
>> let me know what you think about the site - design, layout,
>> prices...........everything and anything!
>>
>> I can assure you that I am not touting for new business but am
>> carrying out research to provide my uncle with the best possible
>> chance of accessing the web market (which I've promised him).
>>
>> Thanks for reading this mail and I can only apologise to anyone that
>> thinks this is an inappropriate posting.
>>
>> Cheers
>> James
>> info@maguiresgarage.co.uk
>> http://www.maguiresgarage.co.uk
> ===========
> James,
>
> Nice home page, but the "Welcome..." box should automatically clear from
> the screen in a few seconds -- on my browser at least, it persists,
> blocking some of the graphics.
>
> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft's
> software ("FrontPage"?). If that is true, then you will be excluding
> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft's code
> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal
> favorite) to freeze up or crash. Trying to access your "Forefront" page
> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example.
>
> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don't have any
> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I
> don't patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser
> allowed.
>
> Good luck,
> Harry

James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at
http://validator.w3.org/ - this is a non-denominational service that
simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells
you what is valid and what is not.

--
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at
once.

Cosmin N.

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 4/12/2004 11:16 PM Harry Smith spake these words of knowledge:
>

[snip]

>> James,
>>
>> Nice home page, but the "Welcome..." box should automatically clear from
>> the screen in a few seconds -- on my browser at least, it persists,
>> blocking some of the graphics.
>>
>> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft's
>> software ("FrontPage"?). If that is true, then you will be excluding
>> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft's code
>> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal
>> favorite) to freeze up or crash. Trying to access your "Forefront" page
>> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example.
>>
>> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don't have any
>> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I
>> don't patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser
>> allowed.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Harry
>
>
> James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at
> http://validator.w3.org/ - this is a non-denominational service that
> simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells
> you what is valid and what is not.
>

The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7.

Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the
header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape
4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to
http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable
version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into
Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc.

As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won't work
on it because it's not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a
problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with
the site itself.

Cosmin

Harry Smith

"Cosmin N." wrote:
>
> Dave Kelsen wrote:
> > On 4/12/2004 11:16 PM Harry Smith spake these words of knowledge:
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> >> James,
> >>
> >> Nice home page, but the "Welcome..." box should automatically clear from
> >> the screen in a few seconds -- on my browser at least, it persists,
> >> blocking some of the graphics.
> >>
> >> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft's
> >> software ("FrontPage"?). If that is true, then you will be excluding
> >> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft's code
> >> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal
> >> favorite) to freeze up or crash. Trying to access your "Forefront" page
> >> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example.
> >>
> >> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don't have any
> >> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I
> >> don't patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser
> >> allowed.
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >> Harry
> >
> >
> > James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at
> > http://validator.w3.org/ - this is a non-denominational service that
> > simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells
> > you what is valid and what is not.
> >
>
> The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7.
>
> Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the
> header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape
> 4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to
> http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable
> version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into
> Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc.
>
> As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won't work
> on it because it's not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a
> problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with
> the site itself.
>
> Cosmin
========
Cosmin,

You're exactly right - I was accessing the site with Netscape 4.7
through Windows 98. I do have Netscape 7.1 on the same machine and have
a couple of Linux browsers on another. I'll use those and see if I get
better results.

I should have looked at the source before I assumed that it was HTML!
Thanks for your much more intelligent information.

Regards,
Harry

Dave Kelsen

On 4/13/2004 2:05 PM Harry Smith spake these words of knowledge:


> "Cosmin N." wrote:
>>
>> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>> > On 4/12/2004 11:16 PM Harry Smith spake these words of knowledge:
>> >
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >> James,
>> >>
>> >> Nice home page, but the "Welcome..." box should automatically clear from
>> >> the screen in a few seconds -- on my browser at least, it persists,
>> >> blocking some of the graphics.
>> >>
>> >> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft's
>> >> software ("FrontPage"?). If that is true, then you will be excluding
>> >> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft's code
>> >> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal
>> >> favorite) to freeze up or crash. Trying to access your "Forefront" page
>> >> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example.
>> >>
>> >> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don't have any
>> >> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I
>> >> don't patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser
>> >> allowed.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck,
>> >> Harry
>> >
>> >
>> > James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at
>> > http://validator.w3.org/ - this is a non-denominational service that
>> > simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells
>> > you what is valid and what is not.
>> >
>>
>> The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7.
>>
>> Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the
>> header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape
>> 4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to
>> http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable
>> version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into
>> Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc.
>>
>> As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won't work
>> on it because it's not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a
>> problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with
>> the site itself.
>>
>> Cosmin
> ========
> Cosmin,
>
> You're exactly right - I was accessing the site with Netscape 4.7
> through Windows 98. I do have Netscape 7.1 on the same machine and have
> a couple of Linux browsers on another. I'll use those and see if I get
> better results.
>
> I should have looked at the source before I assumed that it was HTML!
> Thanks for your much more intelligent information.
>
> Regards,
> Harry

I did even worse, Harry; I didn't look at the page!

Thanks for the proper info, Cosmin.

--
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
Since the invention of the calendar, our days have been numbered.

SgtSilicon

I suggest Firefox. It is based on Mozilla and has great
adware/spyware/spam protection features. Plus it can use IE favorites
IN PLACE.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:44:55 GMT, "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:

>Dave Kelsen wrote:
>> On 4/12/2004 11:16 PM Harry Smith spake these words of knowledge:
>>
>
>[snip]
>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Nice home page, but the "Welcome..." box should automatically clear from
>>> the screen in a few seconds -- on my browser at least, it persists,
>>> blocking some of the graphics.
>>>
>>> More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft's
>>> software ("FrontPage"?). If that is true, then you will be excluding
>>> various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft's code
>>> constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal
>>> favorite) to freeze up or crash. Trying to access your "Forefront" page
>>> produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example.
>>>
>>> Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don't have any
>>> observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I
>>> don't patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser
>>> allowed.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Harry
>>
>>
>> James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at
>> http://validator.w3.org/ - this is a non-denominational service that
>> simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells
>> you what is valid and what is not.
>>
>
>The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7.
>
>Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the
>header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape
>4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to
>http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable
>version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into
>Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc.
>
>As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won't work
>on it because it's not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a
>problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with
>the site itself.
>
>Cosmin



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Cosmin N.

Firefox (or whatever they're calling it this week) works well too.

I suggested Mozilla though because it also includes a great email
client. I know you can use Thunderbird which is based on Mozilla's email
client, but that's still too much of a beta version (lacking a proper
installer, and a few other rough edges).

As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when
they named these apps!

Cosmin

SgtSilicon wrote:

> I suggest Firefox. It is based on Mozilla and has great
> adware/spyware/spam protection features. Plus it can use IE favorites
> IN PLACE.
>
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:44:55 GMT, "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>
>>>On 4/12/2004 11:16 PM Harry Smith spake these words of knowledge:
>>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>
>>>>James,
>>>>
>>>>Nice home page, but the "Welcome..." box should automatically clear from
>>>>the screen in a few seconds -- on my browser at least, it persists,
>>>>blocking some of the graphics.
>>>>
>>>>More importantly, you must have constructed this site with Microsoft's
>>>>software ("FrontPage"?). If that is true, then you will be excluding
>>>>various segments of your desired market, since Microsoft's code
>>>>constructs pages that cause browsers such as Netscape (my personal
>>>>favorite) to freeze up or crash. Trying to access your "Forefront" page
>>>>produced a freeze that required a reboot, for example.
>>>>
>>>>Since the home page was all that Netscape could access, I don't have any
>>>>observations on the remainder of the site, beyond commenting that I
>>>>don't patronize sites that require Internet Exploder as the only browser
>>>>allowed.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck,
>>>>Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>James, you would do yourself a service if you checked your site at
>>>http://validator.w3.org/ - this is a non-denominational service that
>>>simply checks the page code against the published standards, and tells
>>>you what is valid and what is not.
>>>
>>
>>The page works fine in Mozilla 1.7.
>>
>>Harry, I believe you are running an older version of the browser (the
>>header reports Mozilla 4.7 on Win98, it should probably be Netscape
>>4.7). If you want to stick with Netscape, give Mozilla a try. Go to
>>http://www.mozilla.org and download version 1.6, the latest stable
>>version. You can import your entire profile from Netscape 4.7 into
>>Mozilla 1.x, including your emails, bookmarks, etc.
>>
>>As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won't work
>>on it because it's not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a
>>problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with
>>the site itself.
>>
>>Cosmin
>
>
>
>
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Levi Ramsey

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 05:19:47 +0000, Cosmin N. wrote:

> As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when
> they named these apps!

Thunderbird
Firebird (became Firefox because of a name conflict with the open-sourced
Interbase)
Camino

(kinda have to wonder if "Cutlass" is on their list of future names...)

--
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levi@cygnetnet.net

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Currently playing: Metallica - ...And Justice For All - Dyers Eve
Linux 2.6.2-3mdk
07:02:00 up 40 days, 6:18, 12 users, load average: 0.27, 0.41, 0.56

Cosmin N.

Right, but before Firebird became Firefox, it used to be called Phoenix
(which had to be changed due to a conflict with the BIOS manufacturer
Phoenix). There has to be a pyromaniac working somewhere in the Mozilla
organization.

Cosmin

Levi Ramsey wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 05:19:47 +0000, Cosmin N. wrote:
>
>
>>As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when
>>they named these apps!
>
>
> Thunderbird
> Firebird (became Firefox because of a name conflict with the open-sourced
> Interbase)
> Camino
>
> (kinda have to wonder if "Cutlass" is on their list of future names...)
>

Paul Rooney

On 12 Apr 2004 03:14:05 -0700, jamesyboyg@hotmail.com (Maguires
Garage) wrote:


>I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the link below and
>let me know what you think about the site - design, layout,
>prices...........everything and anything!

Looks OK to me. Maybe a bit more detail would be good - I'd suggest
looking at the various supermarket/brokers' websites if you haven't
already done that (Motorpoint, Broadspeed, Drivethedeal, Virgin,
Broker4Cars, etc.).

--

Paul

My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003):

http://paulrooney.netfirms.com

SgtSilicon

Okay okay! Well the current Mozilla based browser named Firefox is
real good. For email... there's always some old standby like Eudora
or Pegasus if your email needs aren't too complex. Internet Exploiter
doesn't have to be used to be sure. Oh yeah, and for news get Forte's
Agent or Free Agent.

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:30:13 GMT, "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:

>Right, but before Firebird became Firefox, it used to be called Phoenix
>(which had to be changed due to a conflict with the BIOS manufacturer
>Phoenix). There has to be a pyromaniac working somewhere in the Mozilla
>organization.
>
>Cosmin
>
>Levi Ramsey wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 05:19:47 +0000, Cosmin N. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As a side note, God, I want some of the stuff they were smoking when
>>>they named these apps!
>>
>>
>> Thunderbird
>> Firebird (became Firefox because of a name conflict with the open-sourced
>> Interbase)
>> Camino
>>
>> (kinda have to wonder if "Cutlass" is on their list of future names...)
>>



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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:44:55 +0000, Cosmin N. wrote:
> As to the site, some things may be broken, but the validating won't work
> on it because it's not written in html (is it perl?). It may also be a
> problem with the older Netscape version that Harry is using and not with
> the site itself.

Validating will work fine. Just because perl (or any other CGI script or
program) is used to produce the page (allowing dynamic content among other
possible reasons) it still produces HTML, since that's essentiall the only
thing the browers understand (possibly XML or variants) and even if you
use java or javascript, they are embedded within an HTML page.