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Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. Although we got 60-65mpg on our 2-ton Mercedes-Benz C280, we only claim 50mpg. On a bad traffic day it's doing 42mpg while a hybrid doing 25-32mpg. Over 20,000 miles have been tested. Please prove us wrong by bringing your hybrid to compare, we'll give you a special discount for helping us help America, please email FreeEnergy@extra150miles.com to participate in a comparison (for Seattle hybrid owners only). PS. In terms of power, we beat all BMW's series, and toe-to-toe with 2006 Dodge Charger Police. The best of all, we save fuel by as much as 2X. Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. |
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"GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in
news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net: > > We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for > only 4% of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased > nearly 2X. extra150miles.com Good for a laugh, but I have a headache from the crappy spelling, grammar and general b.s. |
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"Stan" <srs666@despammed.com> wrote in message news:VgtEl.553473$Mh5.307913@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in > news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net: > >> >> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for >> only 4% of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased >> nearly 2X. > > extra150miles.com > > Good for a laugh, but I have a headache from the crappy spelling, grammar > and general b.s. Come on Satan, can you speak Japanese? or any foreign language better than my English. A good laugh back at the ignorance. |
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"Derf-E420-94" <derfxa@gmail.com> wrote in message news:72d7ad6e-8bb1-43dc-ae02-b21f4e72d82b@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > Well, a new revelation happened today. While checking thermostat after > draining fluid and later refilling when I started car I heard a > rattling sound coming from water pump area (somewhat loud) that > eventually disappeared when fluid finally circulated. I'm 90% sure > it's a defective water pump now and not a clogged radiator or bad Good for you, I hope you didn't order a rebuilt water-pump, sellers always lie to you about their parts meeting the oem spec. I went through Schuck's whole inventory, they have the same terrible frictions on their water-pumps. Be sure you can turn the rotor of a water-punmp up to 18 turns. 3 turns is not acceptible. At Optimum Fuel Systems, we find problems like this for people, people who don't understand us call us "snake oil", that's why we can improve the car's performance substantially. |
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In article <N8mdnc742N-QP3_UnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>,
"GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote: > people who don't understand us call us "snake oil", actually, it's people who do understand you who call you snake oil. -- It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. |
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On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:11:57 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote: > >We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% >of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. > >Although we got 60-65mpg on our 2-ton Mercedes-Benz C280, we only claim >50mpg. On a bad traffic day it's doing 42mpg while a hybrid doing >25-32mpg. Over 20,000 miles have been tested. Please prove us wrong by >bringing your hybrid to compare, we'll give you a special discount for >helping us help America, please email FreeEnergy@extra150miles.com to >participate in a comparison (for Seattle hybrid owners only). > > >PS. In terms of power, we beat all BMW's series, and toe-to-toe with 2006 >Dodge Charger Police. The best of all, we save fuel by as much as 2X. > > >Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. Bernie Madoff? Is that you? |
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"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:smv7u456gu1odgkmold4h0iub0n1ra1r6j@4ax.com... > On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:11:57 -0700, "GasSaver" > <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>4% >>of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. >> >>Although we got 60-65mpg on our 2-ton Mercedes-Benz C280, we only claim >>50mpg. On a bad traffic day it's doing 42mpg while a hybrid doing >>25-32mpg. Over 20,000 miles have been tested. Please prove us wrong by >>bringing your hybrid to compare, we'll give you a special discount for >>helping us help America, please email FreeEnergy@extra150miles.com to >>participate in a comparison (for Seattle hybrid owners only). >> >> >>PS. In terms of power, we beat all BMW's series, and toe-to-toe with >>2006 >>Dodge Charger Police. The best of all, we save fuel by as much as 2X. >> >> >>Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. > > Bernie Madoff? Is that you? > On LSD Gordon? TODAY THIS IS YOU: Full tank = 400 miles @ 50MPG Why?? :( - PriusChat Forums I've never seen the first bubble go to blinking so fast before. ..... Drove 42 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, <<< Very poor... THIS IS ME: My green Mercedes-Benz C280, Full tank = 740 miles @ 58MPG Drove 68 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, Power Equal to Police Car. "Optimum Fuel Systems" did it. Tomorrow: Even if you can go with your 2010 Prius for 640 miles you''ll still will be a loser. I see I already beat you in both power and fuel efficiency. Let's raise in front of the medias. Prove me wrong and I won't come back to bother you. Deal? Let's start from Seattle or Portland, going toward California, see who will get there first and who will run out of fuel first. Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. GasSaver@extra150miles.come |
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In article <W9mdnU35W_Er1nnUnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
"GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote: > Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. Why should any of us give a charlatan any free publicity? -- It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. |
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"GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net... > > We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% > of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. > > Although we got 60-65mpg on our 2-ton Mercedes-Benz C280, we only claim > 50mpg. On a bad traffic day it's doing 42mpg while a hybrid doing > 25-32mpg. Over 20,000 miles have been tested. Please prove us wrong by > bringing your hybrid to compare, we'll give you a special discount for > helping us help America, please email FreeEnergy@extra150miles.com to > participate in a comparison (for Seattle hybrid owners only). > > > PS. In terms of power, we beat all BMW's series, and toe-to-toe with 2006 > Dodge Charger Police. The best of all, we save fuel by as much as 2X. > > > Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. But what exactly you are trying to compare? A custom made car to a factory mass produced vehicle? Come back to do the comparison if you make yours a factory produced, available to be purchased and serviced car with a known in advance price tag. |
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Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <W9mdnU35W_Er1nnUnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@posted.toastnet> , > "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. > > > Why should any of us give a charlatan any free publicity? > Just a general observation here, a friend has been fiddlin' with hydrogen assist and insists that he's getting better than 30mpg in an older Suburban... JT |
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"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message news:kO8Fl.120663$4m1.20183@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Just a general observation here, a friend has been fiddlin' with hydrogen > assist and insists that he's getting better than 30mpg in an older > Suburban... > > JT > Today I read that the University of North Dakota has solved the hydrogen infrastructure problem. You can read about their work here: http://www.undeerc.org/news/newsitem.aspx?id=340 I poked around their site a bit without finding out what happens to the carbon. Obviously making hydrogen from gasoline and ethanol doesn't address the peak oil problem or the ethanol acreage problem, but it may mitigate climate change. At a minimum, solving the infrastructure problem will let hydrogen powered cars move mainstream while alternative techniques are developed. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:39:16 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote: > >"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message >news:smv7u456gu1odgkmold4h0iub0n1ra1r6j@4ax.com.. . >> On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:11:57 -0700, "GasSaver" >> <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>>4% >>>of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. >>> >>>Although we got 60-65mpg on our 2-ton Mercedes-Benz C280, we only claim >>>50mpg. On a bad traffic day it's doing 42mpg while a hybrid doing >>>25-32mpg. Over 20,000 miles have been tested. Please prove us wrong by >>>bringing your hybrid to compare, we'll give you a special discount for >>>helping us help America, please email FreeEnergy@extra150miles.com to >>>participate in a comparison (for Seattle hybrid owners only). >>> >>> >>>PS. In terms of power, we beat all BMW's series, and toe-to-toe with >>>2006 >>>Dodge Charger Police. The best of all, we save fuel by as much as 2X. >>> >>> >>>Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency. >> >> Bernie Madoff? Is that you? >> > >On LSD Gordon? > >TODAY THIS IS YOU: > >Full tank = 400 miles @ 50MPG Why?? :( - PriusChat Forums >I've never seen the first bubble go to blinking so fast before. ..... Drove >42 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, <<< Very poor... > > >THIS IS ME: >My green Mercedes-Benz C280, Full tank = 740 miles @ 58MPG Drove >68 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, Power Equal to Police Car. >"Optimum Fuel Systems" did it. My red Acura - tank empty = 2000 miles @ infinity mpg and the tank is now full. Power = the Space Shuttle. Me laughing at you did it. >Tomorrow: >Even if you can go with your 2010 Prius for 640 miles you''ll still will be >a loser. > >I see I already beat you in both power and fuel efficiency. Let's raise in >front of the medias. Prove me wrong and I won't come back to bother you. >Deal? Tomorrow you will claim your C280 did better than my Acura. Hey dipshit. If you can prove what you say, why aren't you on TV rather than on usenet? > > >Let's start from Seattle or Portland, going toward California, see who will >get there first and who will run out of fuel first. > >Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me. > >GasSaver@extra150miles.come > |
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"GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net... > > We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4% > of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X. > Yeah Yeah Yeah If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~) |
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"Ttoommy" <tt0ommy@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message news:74vvakF15lgb2U1@mid.individual.net... > > "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net... >> >> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >> 4% >> of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly >> 2X. >> > Yeah Yeah Yeah > > If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every > vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~) > You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common sense knows that's impractical. Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact you're driving a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you made are: 1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room. 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do, they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up. GasSaver |
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"Oldphart" <mfj1952deletethis@cox.net> wrote in message news:881Hl.27441$Ji5.6093@newsfe21.iad... > GasSaver wrote: >> "Ttoommy" <tt0ommy@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:74vvakF15lgb2U1@mid.individual.net... >>> "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net... >>>> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>>> 4% >>>> of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly >>>> 2X. >>>> >>> Yeah Yeah Yeah >>> >>> If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every >>> vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~) >>> >> >> >> You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common >> sense knows that's impractical. > > <snip> > > Where is your documentation? How does your claim work? If there is > nothing concrete for others to look at, then the old saying "A fool and > his money are soon parted". Trust is earned, not sold on a soapbox. This old fart would like to have their patent number. I'm always looking for a sure-fire investment opportunity like, for example, buying my Prius. |
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GasSaver wrote:
> "Ttoommy" <tt0ommy@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:74vvakF15lgb2U1@mid.individual.net... >> "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net... >>> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only >>> 4% >>> of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly >>> 2X. >>> >> Yeah Yeah Yeah >> >> If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every >> vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~) >> > > > You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common > sense knows that's impractical. <snip> Where is your documentation? How does your claim work? If there is nothing concrete for others to look at, then the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted". Trust is earned, not sold on a soapbox. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
In article <N-GdnVHGR92GD3HUnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>,
"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: > Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving > me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact > you're driving a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you > made are: > > 1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room. > > 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do, > they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up. Thus demonstrating that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. Thanks for proving that you are a charlatan and a fraud. -- It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. |
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"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message news:michelle-37832E.11043720042009@mara100-84.onlink.net... > In article <N-GdnVHGR92GD3HUnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>, > "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: > >> Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving >> me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact >> you're driving a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you >> made are: >> >> 1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room. >> >> 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do, >> they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up. > > Thus demonstrating that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. > Thanks for proving that you are a charlatan and a fraud. Michelle Steiner claims she knows alot about fraud and hybrid vehicles, here you go: 1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Honda Sued Over Hybrid Mileage http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...sued-over.html 2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Why hybrids are crap: >"Ted" <the_busmaster@msn.com> wrote in message >news:4608b6fd-9d52-4ea4-a96e->4e8285dfbfd9@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >I just returned from a 700 mile trip up and across NY State. It > included mountainous terrain and an average speed of 70+ mph (with the > A/C on). I got 28 mpg all told. What I find amazing is that this is > a 3700 lb plus car with 3 fairly heavy people. The car was an 07 > Malibu Maxx SS with the 3.9L engine. On the other hand, making this > same trip with a Honda Civic Hybrid, I only got about 8 mpg more. I > had to take hills into more consideration as the car was underpowered. > To go with that, I had to leave the A/C off, go slower because the > ultra super low rolling resistance tires tended to skid when braking, > and I got a sore behind in the bargain from being shoved into a tin > can. I think we have and do make wonderful cars. *** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and call their vehicle a hybrid. Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I take it Michelle works for a car dealer. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
In article <_7mdnb_EacjMxXDUnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: > Michelle Steiner claims she knows alot about fraud and hybrid > vehicles, here you go: No, I didn't make any such claim, you liar. I said that you demonstrated that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. I do know enough about fraud to know that you are a fraud. > *** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and call > their vehicle a hybrid. Perhaps, but Toyota isn't one of them. > Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of > your whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy > batteries. And yet again, you show that you don't know anything about hybrid technology. By the way, "Ted" had no chance in hell of winning that bogus law suit, as clearly explained at the URL you so kindly provided: We scoff a bit because Honda doesnšt set the figures on the sticker, the Environmental Protection Agency does.. Wešre no legal experts, but we donšt understand how an automaker can be at fault for being forced to put EPA figures on a sticker. The EPA also admitted that the tests that led to 2007 and earlier figures were not accurate and instituted new tests, resulting in lower mileage figures. Mileage also varies due to driver habits, especially with hybrids. Automotive journalists can tell you that driving a car at its limits for a week wonšt return the normal day-to-day commute numbers that owners experience. > I take it Michelle works for a car dealer. Wrong again. If you had any sense at all, you would know that no one here believes your malarkey. -- It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. |
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GasSaver <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
> Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your > whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I > take it Michelle works for a car dealer. Um, she doesn't now nor has she ever. Anyway, do you think it's good advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? Every time you post here, you damage your reputation, if that's even possible anymore. -- My Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> |
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In message <_7mdnb_EacjMxXDUnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@posted.toastnet> , GasSaver
<GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> writes > Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and >call their vehicle a hybrid. How do you get an alternator to work as a DC motor? -- Clive |
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"Mike Rosenberg" <mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote in message news:1iyil3c.1fgcpsz1hsvsg0N%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacco nsult.com... > GasSaver <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: > >> Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your >> whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. >> I >> take it Michelle works for a car dealer. > > Um, she doesn't now nor has she ever. Anyway, do you think it's good > advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? Not around the world, but around English speaking people! Sorry Mike you feel that way but who started first? I was always nice with you guys in the beginning. She calls me fraud like someone accusing your sister/mother of being a prostitute without knowing their backgrounds. My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky about little poor English. You guys again and again define good English = sign of intelligence. Is that wrong!! I learned tehcnologies 20-yrs before my english. Then she goes on claiming her 1-ton hybrid car safer than my 2-ton car. Why can't I express my view back ? She misleads people, some people could actually believe her. I hope you won't find the following statement antagonizing the world: Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas mileage then some normal cars? ... http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detro...ght-25413.html |
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In article <dtOdnTvmtNu4lHPUnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: > Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas > mileage then some normal cars? ... > http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detro...ght-25413.html What normal cars get better gas mileage than the Insight? The morons on that site are trying to compare their own mileage with the Insight's EPA estimated mileage, and that's an invalid comparison. Further, the Yaris and the Insight are different classes of cars, further making the comparison invalid. Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight. -- It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. |
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GasSaver <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
> > Anyway, do you think it's good > > advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? > > Not around the world, but around English speaking people! Are you somehoe proud of the fact that people who don't speak English aren't pissed off by your posts? > Sorry Mike you feel that way but who started first? I was always nice with > you guys in the beginning. She calls me fraud like someone accusing your > sister/mother of being a prostitute without knowing their backgrounds. I don't know what you're babbling about. I see that you're crossposting unsolicited commercial material to three newsgroups, including the one I'm subscribed to. That in itself is already enough to piss people off. Are you really unaware that spamming does that? Then I see you insulting hybrid car owners in general, and you're doing that in alt.autos.toyota.prius, which, you seem too stupid to realize, is a group specifically about the Toyota Prius, with is [BIG SURPRISE!] A HYBRID CAR. All the newsgroups you're posting this crap to are carried on servers worldwide, so again I'll ask: Do you think it's good advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world? -- My Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> |
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"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:dtOdnTvmtNu4lHPUnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@posted.toast net... > My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky about > little poor English. You guys again and again define good English = sign > of > intelligence. Is that wrong!! I learned tehcnologies 20-yrs before my > english. What was your first language? |
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Was Istoben <entshuldigen@oopla.com> wrote:
> > My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky about > > little poor English. You guys again and again define good English = sign > > of > > intelligence. Is that wrong!! I learned tehcnologies 20-yrs before my > > english. > > What was your first language? Frankly, I don't think that's in any way relevant. In any language, he's acting like a jerk here. -- My Blog, Mike's Musings <http://blog.macconsult.com> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> |
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"Mike Rosenberg" <mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote in message news:1iyj51b.fw8spa1ya1v9cN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmaccon sult.com... > Was Istoben <entshuldigen@oopla.com> wrote: > >> > My company hires foreigners, we are not racious, and we're not picky >> > about >> > little poor English. You guys again and again define good English = >> > sign >> > of >> > intelligence. Is that wrong!! I learned tehcnologies 20-yrs before my >> > english. >> >> What was your first language? > > Frankly, I don't think that's in any way relevant. In any language, he's > acting like a jerk here. > I wasn't asking on your behalf. I thought he might speak one of my languages. If you think his English is bad, you should read my Chinese. Imagine how I feel knowing 1.3 billion people learned it when they were children. |
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Clive wrote:
> In message <_7mdnb_EacjMxXDUnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@posted.toastnet> , GasSaver > <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> writes >> Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and >> call their vehicle a hybrid. > How do you get an alternator to work as a DC motor? You need to get one of the "really good" alternators. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:59:21 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >In article <dtOdnTvmtNu4lHPUnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet> , > "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: > >> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas >> mileage then some normal cars? ... >> http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detro...ght-25413.html > >What normal cars get better gas mileage than the Insight? The morons on >that site are trying to compare their own mileage with the Insight's EPA >estimated mileage, and that's an invalid comparison. Further, the Yaris >and the Insight are different classes of cars, further making the >comparison invalid. > >Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight. If you go here: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm you can look up EPA and actual user mpg for most cars. Look at 2008 models to get a good population of real owners' fuel economy experiences. The most efficient cars are: 2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49) Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40) So what have we learned? 1. The top hybrids both get significantly better mileage than the teeny tiny Smart car, and way better than any other gas or diesel car on the market. 2. The top hybrids both beat their EPA overall estimates, by a pretty big margin in the case of the Honda. 3. GasSaver is a lying sack of . No, wait. We already knew that. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
In article <m3bvu4tv89fa4r7s572egn29uljipbkilr@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: > 2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) > Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) > Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49) > Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40) > > So what have we learned? > > 1. The top hybrids both get significantly better mileage than the > teeny tiny Smart car, and way better than any other gas or diesel car > on the market. Not to mention that the Smart For 2 requires premium gas. > 3. GasSaver is a lying sack of . No, wait. We already knew > that. Oh my brother, testify! -- It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
"joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad... > GasSaver wrote: > > <not much worth repeating> > > If you want to be taken seriously, > > 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent, or > offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup) > then > you have nothing to hide. > > 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage, > i.e., > wind resistance. > > 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel > with > an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline consumption, > but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption? > > 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the extra > HP > you claim to achieve? > > 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do actually > works as you claim. > > 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when a > real > invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the > automotive industry. > > Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be > legitimate. > Joe, please go to this web-site: www.extra150miles.com It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can always resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt" We are law-abiding company and citizens. Cheers, GasSaver. BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any models C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference. www.extra150miles.com |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
on 4/22/2009 10:31 PM (ET) GasSaver wrote the following:
> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad... > >> GasSaver wrote: >> >> <not much worth repeating> >> >> If you want to be taken seriously, >> >> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent, or >> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup) >> then >> you have nothing to hide. >> >> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage, >> i.e., >> wind resistance. >> >> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel >> with >> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline consumption, >> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption? >> >> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the extra >> HP >> you claim to achieve? >> >> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do actually >> works as you claim. >> >> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when a >> real >> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the >> automotive industry. >> >> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be >> legitimate. >> >> > > > Joe, please go to this web-site: > > www.extra150miles.com > > It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can always > resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt" We > are law-abiding company and citizens. > > Cheers, > > GasSaver. > > BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any models > C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our > Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference. > www.extra150miles.com > > > I went to your site and there is one thing there that will definitely improve gas mileage. Use of the ScanGauge II, pictured on your home page, which will show you how to improve your driving habits to improve MPG. However, your use of this gauge as proof of the MPG gained with your system is misleading. I have a ScanGauge II mounted on my dashboard. I have a 1997 Nissan PU with the 2.4 liter, 4 cylinder FI engine which EPA Highway rating was 19 MPG at the time of its manufacture. The figures on your ScanGauge are no proof of anything that you have done. I can get any MPG reading, RPM reading, or even gallons used per hour on my ScanGauge by merely letting up on the gas pedal at any speed. At 80 miles per hour, I can get a MPG reading in the hundreds by taking my foot off the gas pedal. Letting up on the gas pedal and pushing the clutch in when going downhill.will give me a 9999 MPG reading. When someone uses a deception as proof of something, as you have, I feel there are more deceptive statements lurking in their 'proofs'. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:59:18 -0400, willshak <willshak@00hvc.rr.com>
wrote: >on 4/22/2009 10:31 PM (ET) GasSaver wrote the following: >> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad... >> >>> GasSaver wrote: >>> >>> <not much worth repeating> >>> >>> If you want to be taken seriously, >>> >>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent, or >>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup) >>> then >>> you have nothing to hide. >>> >>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage, >>> i.e., >>> wind resistance. >>> >>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel >>> with >>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline consumption, >>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption? >>> >>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the extra >>> HP >>> you claim to achieve? >>> >>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do actually >>> works as you claim. >>> >>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when a >>> real >>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the >>> automotive industry. >>> >>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be >>> legitimate. >>> >>> >> >> >> Joe, please go to this web-site: >> >> www.extra150miles.com >> >> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can always >> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt" We >> are law-abiding company and citizens. >> >> Cheers, >> >> GasSaver. >> >> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any models >> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our >> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference. >> www.extra150miles.com >> >> >> > >I went to your site and there is one thing there that will definitely >improve gas mileage. >Use of the ScanGauge II, pictured on your home page, which will show you >how to improve your driving habits to improve MPG. >However, your use of this gauge as proof of the MPG gained with your >system is misleading. >I have a ScanGauge II mounted on my dashboard. I have a 1997 Nissan PU >with the 2.4 liter, 4 cylinder FI engine which EPA Highway rating was 19 >MPG at the time of its manufacture. >The figures on your ScanGauge are no proof of anything that you have >done. I can get any MPG reading, RPM reading, or even gallons used per >hour on my ScanGauge by merely letting up on the gas pedal at any speed. >At 80 miles per hour, I can get a MPG reading in the hundreds by taking >my foot off the gas pedal. Letting up on the gas pedal and pushing the >clutch in when going downhill.will give me a 9999 MPG reading. >When someone uses a deception as proof of something, as you have, I feel >there are more deceptive statements lurking in their 'proofs'. This is exactly right. Nothing on the website proves or even explains anything. Yes, we (and every automotive engineer) know that friction and the combustion processes have inefficiencies. Auto companies have spent billions to minimize these losses with significant results. Now you have a mystery tune-up that magically triples gas mileage and you are hawking it on usenet. Is there any real question why NO ONE takes you seriously. You are either a fraud or a lunatic. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
In message <tlp0v49oertq6s5b0ef1ps7bivfqj4be0r@4ax.com>, Gordon McGrew
<RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> writes >This is exactly right. Nothing on the website proves or even explains >anything. Yes, we (and every automotive engineer) know that friction >and the combustion processes have inefficiencies. Auto companies have >spent billions to minimize these losses with significant results. Now >you have a mystery tune-up that magically triples gas mileage and you >are hawking it on usenet. Is there any real question why NO ONE takes >you seriously. You are either a fraud or a lunatic. Fraud, there's always some mug prepared to part with hard earned cash for empty promises. -- Clive |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
on 4/23/2009 9:25 AM (ET) Clive wrote the following:
> In message <tlp0v49oertq6s5b0ef1ps7bivfqj4be0r@4ax.com>, Gordon McGrew > <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> writes >> This is exactly right. Nothing on the website proves or even explains >> anything. Yes, we (and every automotive engineer) know that friction >> and the combustion processes have inefficiencies. Auto companies have >> spent billions to minimize these losses with significant results. Now >> you have a mystery tune-up that magically triples gas mileage and you >> are hawking it on usenet. Is there any real question why NO ONE takes >> you seriously. You are either a fraud or a lunatic. > Fraud, there's always some mug prepared to part with hard earned cash > for empty promises. Back when I started driving in the early 50s, I bought almost every gas saving device offered by snake salesman. This one provides a 20% increase in gas mileage, this other one provides a 30% savings in gas, etc. etc. I had over a 100% percent savings in gas after all were installed. The only problem I had was that about every 100 miles or so, I had to stop and drain some of the gas out of the tank because it would overflow otherwise. :-) -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:tlp0v49oertq6s5b0ef1ps7bivfqj4be0r@4ax.com... > On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:59:18 -0400, willshak <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> > wrote: > >>on 4/22/2009 10:31 PM (ET) GasSaver wrote the following: >>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message >>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad... >>> >>>> GasSaver wrote: >>>> >>>> <not much worth repeating> >>>> >>>> If you want to be taken seriously, >>>> >>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent, >>>> or >>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup) >>>> then >>>> you have nothing to hide. >>>> >>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage, >>>> i.e., >>>> wind resistance. >>>> >>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel >>>> with >>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline >>>> consumption, >>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption? >>>> >>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the >>>> extra >>>> HP >>>> you claim to achieve? >>>> >>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do >>>> actually >>>> works as you claim. >>>> >>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when >>>> a >>>> real >>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the >>>> automotive industry. >>>> >>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be >>>> legitimate. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Joe, please go to this web-site: >>> >>> www.extra150miles.com >>> >>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can >>> always >>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt" >>> We >>> are law-abiding company and citizens. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> GasSaver. >>> >>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any >>> models >>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our >>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference. >>> www.extra150miles.com >>> >>> >>> >> >>I went to your site and there is one thing there that will definitely >>improve gas mileage. >>Use of the ScanGauge II, pictured on your home page, which will show you >>how to improve your driving habits to improve MPG. >>However, your use of this gauge as proof of the MPG gained with your >>system is misleading. >>I have a ScanGauge II mounted on my dashboard. I have a 1997 Nissan PU >>with the 2.4 liter, 4 cylinder FI engine which EPA Highway rating was 19 >>MPG at the time of its manufacture. >>The figures on your ScanGauge are no proof of anything that you have >>done. Joe sorry I don't understand what you're trying to tell me with your car and our video. Don';t be confused with dynamic MPG display with Average MPG display. Go to Scangauge or just forget it for now, I will show you a new proof you'd never seen before. A full video of a 75 miles trip from Seattle to Olympia to prove that our fixes make a big difference, to show you all instrumentation on the car itself and you can send me your security sticker to seal the gas cap to make sure I won't add any more fuel. You will see the fuel gauge refusing to come down after 35 miles driving, after 40 miles it will come down about 1/2 a gallon. I will squeeze that video to compressed size so you won't have to spend 1-hr watching it. >> I can get any MPG reading, RPM reading, or even gallons used per >>hour on my ScanGauge by merely letting up on the gas pedal at any speed. >>At 80 miles per hour, I can get a MPG reading in the hundreds by taking >>my foot off the gas pedal. Letting up on the gas pedal and pushing the >>clutch in when going downhill.will give me a 9999 MPG reading. >>When someone uses a deception as proof of something, as you have, I feel >>there are more deceptive statements lurking in their 'proofs'. Joe, you misunderstand, OFS doesn't make Scangauge, the scanguageII showing 9999MPG is not our deceptive proof of anything, It is a Scangauge way of telling people that the fuel line is cut off by a car computer, they say but I can't substantiate that claim. Please don't assume it was our intention to deceive any one. > This is exactly right. Nothing on the website proves or even explains > anything. Yes, we (and every automotive engineer) know that friction > and the combustion processes have inefficiencies. Auto companies have > spent billions to minimize these losses with significant results. Now > you have a mystery tune-up that magically triples gas mileage and you > are hawking it on usenet. Is there any real question why NO ONE takes > you seriously. You are either a fraud or a lunatic. > Lunatic or not it's only your frame of reference. Yes you know about frictions but you don't do anything about them, that's what eat your pocket up alive, further more you standardize the frictions in your brake system. You called them by-design or your laws-of-physics. "They are NOT any laws of physics, they are your design failure". Look at your GM and FORD today, their failures mimic your thinking. That's the real fraud for not telling people of their inability to correct the problems. This is why I offer you guys to make a full video of a 75 miles trip from Seattle to Olympia to prove that our fixes make a big difference, to show you all instrumentation on the car itself and you can send me your security sticker to seal the gas cap to make sure I won't add any more fuel. You will see the fuel gauge refusing to come down after 35 miles driving, after 40 miles it will come down about 1/2 a gallon. I will squeeze that video to compressed size so you won't have to spend 1-hr watching it. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
> Lunatic or not it's only your frame of reference. Yes you know about > frictions but you don't do anything about them, that's what eat your > up alive, further more you standardize the frictions in your brake > system. > You called them by-design or your laws-of-physics. "They are NOT any laws > of physics, they are your design failure". Look at your GM and FORD > today, > their failures mimic your thinking. That's the real fraud for not telling > people of their inability to correct the problems. > > This is why I offer you guys to make a full video of a 75 miles trip from > Seattle to Olympia to prove that our fixes make a big difference, to show > you all instrumentation on the car itself and you can send me your > security > sticker to seal the gas cap to make sure I won't add any more fuel. You > will see the fuel gauge refusing to come down after 35 miles driving, > after > 40 miles it will come down about 1/2 a gallon. I will squeeze that > video > to compressed size so you won't have to spend 1-hr watching it. How amusing :) The frictions from my security sticker are eating up my pockets alive. The people are being defrauded because of their inabability to correct their problems. OMG! My fuel gauge refuses to go down on me. At least he's willing to squeeze my video. I've got a big one; might take two hands---could be nice. Best way to save gasoline: Ride your bicycle to work. This poor fellow's Mom & Dad deserve a tax rebate for his public school education. Take the money you save riding your bike and invest it in a decent education for your kids.... |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
"Enrico Fermi" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:c93Il.16922$D32.14608@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... > >> Lunatic or not it's only your frame of reference. Yes you know about >> frictions but you don't do anything about them, that's what eat your >> up alive, further more you standardize the frictions in your brake >> system. >> You called them by-design or your laws-of-physics. "They are NOT any >> laws >> of physics, they are your design failure". Look at your GM and FORD >> today, >> their failures mimic your thinking. That's the real fraud for not >> telling >> people of their inability to correct the problems. >> >> This is why I offer you guys to make a full video of a 75 miles trip >> from >> Seattle to Olympia to prove that our fixes make a big difference, to >> show >> you all instrumentation on the car itself and you can send me your >> security >> sticker to seal the gas cap to make sure I won't add any more fuel. You >> will see the fuel gauge refusing to come down after 35 miles driving, >> after >> 40 miles it will come down about 1/2 a gallon. I will squeeze that >> video >> to compressed size so you won't have to spend 1-hr watching it. > > How amusing :) The frictions from my security sticker are eating up my > pockets alive. The people are being defrauded because of their > inabability > to correct their problems. OMG! My fuel gauge refuses to go down on me. > At > least he's willing to squeeze my video. I've got a big one; might take > two > hands---could be nice. Best way to save gasoline: Ride your bicycle to > work. This poor fellow's Mom & Dad deserve a tax rebate for his public > school education. Take the money you save riding your bike and invest it > in > a decent education for your kids.... > No time for you Amigos. The mark of your vehicle tells how much education you have, America's falling apart is another example. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
Thus spake "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> :
> >"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message >news:michelle-37832E.11043720042009@mara100-84.onlink.net... >> In article <N-GdnVHGR92GD3HUnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>, >> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: >> >>> Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving >>> me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact >>> you're driving a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you >>> made are: >>> >>> 1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room. >>> >>> 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do, >>> they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up. >> >> Thus demonstrating that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. >> Thanks for proving that you are a charlatan and a fraud. > > >Michelle Steiner claims she knows alot about fraud and hybrid vehicles, >here you go: > > >1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Honda Sued Over Hybrid Mileage > >http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...sued-over.html > > >2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Why hybrids are crap: > >>"Ted" <the_busmaster@msn.com> wrote in message >>news:4608b6fd-9d52-4ea4-a96e->4e8285dfbfd9@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >>I just returned from a 700 mile trip up and across NY State. It >> included mountainous terrain and an average speed of 70+ mph (with the >> A/C on). I got 28 mpg all told. What I find amazing is that this is >> a 3700 lb plus car with 3 fairly heavy people. The car was an 07 >> Malibu Maxx SS with the 3.9L engine. On the other hand, making this >> same trip with a Honda Civic Hybrid, I only got about 8 mpg more. I >> had to take hills into more consideration as the car was underpowered. >> To go with that, I had to leave the A/C off, go slower because the >> ultra super low rolling resistance tires tended to skid when braking, >> and I got a sore behind in the bargain from being shoved into a tin >> can. I think we have and do make wonderful cars. > > > >*** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and >call their vehicle a hybrid. Um, wouldn't that be an AC motor? An alternator is AC, a generator is DC. The diesel-electric locomotive has done a great job in fuel efficiency. It might seem like a huge fuel burner, but look at the ton-miles per gallon. Now, if GM could translate their success over the last 60 years to cars ... > >Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your >whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I >take it Michelle works for a car dealer. > > > > > > > > -- - dillon I am not invalid The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not. |
Re: Inviting every hybrid owners in Seattle to prove us wrong.
Thus spake Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> :
>On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:59:21 -0700, Michelle Steiner ><michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >>In article <dtOdnTvmtNu4lHPUnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet> , >> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote: >> >>> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas >>> mileage then some normal cars? ... >>> http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detro...ght-25413.html >> >>What normal cars get better gas mileage than the Insight? The morons on >>that site are trying to compare their own mileage with the Insight's EPA >>estimated mileage, and that's an invalid comparison. Further, the Yaris >>and the Insight are different classes of cars, further making the >>comparison invalid. >> >>Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight. > > > >If you go here: > >http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm > >you can look up EPA and actual user mpg for most cars. Look at 2008 >models to get a good population of real owners' fuel economy >experiences. The most efficient cars are: > >2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners) >Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104) >Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49) >Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40) > >So what have we learned? > >1. The top hybrids both get significantly better mileage than the >teeny tiny Smart car, and way better than any other gas or diesel car >on the market. > >2. The top hybrids both beat their EPA overall estimates, by a pretty >big margin in the case of the Honda. As was pointed out, a lot depends on the driving technique. When I drive my Fit "conservatively", I can usually get 32 or so in town. When I drive like I normally do, I get around 28. When I make my occasional long haul (like the 240 miles to Houston), I can get 35 at an average of 75. > >3. GasSaver is a lying sack of . No, wait. We already knew that. > Perhaps if he built a car that ran on methane, he could compost his bullshit, extract the gas and go forever. -- - dillon I am not invalid The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not. |
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