Re: Japanese sedans
 

tigressnospam@gtf.org wrote:
> Eastward Bound <eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Agreed, Jap cars are just a BIG waste.
>>
>> Not just to the owners who end up with inferior products, but to
>> America that is suffering each and every time someone buys a product
>> that is non-supporting to the American economy.
>
> Tell that to the people in American making those cars.
>
> Tell that to the people who lost their jobs to Mexico or elsewhre that
> worked for an American manufacturer.
>
> Alice

Alice, why don't you tell American Government to back away from many of
the incredibly intricate and pervasive regulations that drive up the
costs of EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of vehicle manufacture? Why don't you have
a word with a trade union or two about the incredibly comprehensive
compensation packages that their automotive workers get? Why don't you
have a word with your Congressmen, the likes of whom continue passing
tax measures that ENCOURAGE American automakers thru the tax structure
TO move off-shore or to Mexico? Hmmmmm?
--�

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)

Re: Japanese sedans
 

>If you were to tell the average person that you had $F (US) and spent $A
>(US) to see a movie and had $5 US remaining, they'd think you were daft.

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Re: Japanese sedans
 

"Philip?" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote:
> compensation packages that their automotive workers get? Why don't you
> have a word with your Congressmen, the likes of whom continue passing
> tax measures that ENCOURAGE American automakers thru the tax structure
> TO move off-shore or to Mexico? Hmmmmm?

Um, my point was more to the guy who claimed that by buying American you
were supporing American workers. That is not so true anymore.

Alice

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Re: Japanese sedans
 

Richard J. Sexton (At work) wrote:
>>If you were to tell the average person that you had $F (US) and spent $A
>>(US) to see a movie and had $5 US remaining, they'd think you were daft.
>
> The great advantage to hex comes when you consider your own age:
> when you hit 32, drop into hex.

Or when you hit 50, which is x'32'. :)

Re: Japanese sedans
 

Philip® wrote:
> The problem with Japanese cars is similar to Japanese food. Park it and
> an hour later, you feel like driving it again.

You seem to have confused Japanese food with Chinese food. ;)

Re: Japanese sedans
 

Liam Devlin wrote:
> Philip® wrote:
>> The problem with Japanese cars is similar to Japanese food. Park it
>> and an hour later, you feel like driving it again.
>
> You seem to have confused Japanese food with Chinese food. ;)

Sushi goes right thru me like Grant thru Richmond. From my perspective,
Asian, Oriental, Japanese ... all the same accelerated digestive time
compared to Oklahoma beef. ;^)
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)

Re: Japanese sedans
 

Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> "Liam Devlin" <LiamD@XXXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:3F091E1B.7090708@XXXX.optonline.net...
>> Philip® wrote:
>>> The problem with Japanese cars is similar to Japanese food. Park
>>> it and an hour later, you feel like driving it again.
>>
>> You seem to have confused Japanese food with Chinese food. ;)
>
> No. He's confused Japanese food with Americanized Chinese food.
>
> The Chinese don't deep fry _everything_.

Chinese-American is not all deep fried either when you eat Chinese in
the Bay Area. But elsewhere, I agree with your findings. A casual
study of authentic Chinese diet reveals they would eat the kitchen sink
if it were cookable.
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)

Re: Japanese sedans
 

"Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
news:vgj4qippk8ej70@news.supernews.com...
>
> The boat is another piece. The damn engine mount broke within the first
week
> of owning it. It also has a ton of other problems not worth going into.
>
> These two items show me exactly what the American cars would be like
without
> competition from the Japs and Euros. The only well made things left by
> Americans are firearms and tools. I believe everything else is just on a
> slippery slope to hell.
>
> Dan
>

OK, enlighten me . . . where can I buy well made American tools? For that
matter, I can't recall ever seeing well made American tools. Oh, and I'm
not terribly young, either. -Dave

Re: Japanese sedans
 

>
> OK, enlighten me . . . where can I buy well made American tools? For that
> matter, I can't recall ever seeing well made American tools. Oh, and I'm
> not terribly young, either. -Dave
>
>

Snap-on tools are made in the US.

http://www.snapon.com/faqs/answers.asp?question=23

They are by far the best tool company around.

Re: Japanese sedans
 

Dave C. wrote:
> "Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
> news:vgj4qippk8ej70@news.supernews.com...
>
>>The boat is another piece. The damn engine mount broke within the first
>
> week
>
>>of owning it. It also has a ton of other problems not worth going into.
>>
>>These two items show me exactly what the American cars would be like
>
> without
>
>>competition from the Japs and Euros. The only well made things left by
>>Americans are firearms and tools. I believe everything else is just on a
>>slippery slope to hell.
>>
>>Dan
>
> OK, enlighten me . . . where can I buy well made American tools?

Snap-On

Re: Japanese sedans
 

"Dave M." wrote:
>
> marcel <w_coyote@wxs.nl> wrote in message news:3F0612A6.1D15F865@wxs.nl...
> >
> >
> > "Dave C." wrote:
> >
> > > "Ricardo" <sovietjamaicanguy@spamfreezone.yahoo.ca> wrote in message >
> > > > Hard to beat a Bimmer for space and comfort, when you've been
> > > > accustomed to cramped U.S. and Japanese cars all your life. Although
> > > > Volvos are pretty good too, 'cos I don't even need the driver's seat
> > > > all the way back on a V40, which is very rare.
> > > >
> > >
> > > What are you talking about? I've ridden in Bimmers. Other than the 7
> > > series perhaps, they are microscopically tiny . . . especially if you
> > > compare them with the average Jap sedan costing many thousands of
> dollars
> > > less. -Dave
> >
> > actually a bimmer 3 series is smaller then a accord
> > but a vw passat is roomier then most jap sedans, but its far from reliable
>
> I spend a lot of time in a VW shop. We are constantly replacing power window
> motors.

They finally recalled and redesigned that little clip that always
breaks. VW has a long history of building great cars and then
forgetting one little detail.

nate

> >
> > marcel
> >

Re: Japanese sedans
 

I looked at the site and I read one of the articles on the website "Let's
not go metric".

The more interesting-sounding one, Twelve and Ten:The Case Against the
System of Decimalization
could not be opened -- 'file damaged' error msg.

Firstly I note you have followed the society in using a made-up word
"dozenal". Nothing wrong with that if you can persuade the rest of the
world to use it...

The article in question looks as though it was written some time ago and,
even if it wasn't, manages, in my opinion, to exaggerate and to omit; it is
self-serving after all, let's be clear about that.

Just two examples:-

It is true that in some countries the pound (weight) is used, but it is
clearly derived from the metric kg and to claim otherwise is misleading.
The 500-g pound is half a kg, not any relation to the 453-g Imperial lb.

It is true that many engineering measurements are derived from Imperial.
Not surprising since the Industrial Revolution began in Britain. But you
try screwing an Imperial quarter-inch nut on a metric 6 mm screw!
Related: Try giving an engineering drawing in Imperial to any European
engineer. With what is he/she going to measure the rooms? A measuring tape
imported from the United States or UK? Yes, in Germany there are still
references to a Zollstock (an inch-stick or ruler) but it's only
metaphorical.

There were many units/measures in Europe, which are still found in the
languages. The old French sous is one (20 old centimes, a fifth of a franc,
IIRC) But that doesn't mean it passes an So What? test.

Metric rules (outside the USA), ok?

DAS
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> On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 09:01:56 +1000, Jim...
> <snezrewvz@vvarg.arg.nh.rot13> wrote:
>
> >you're kidding.
> >the imperial system is dead and what you're waffling about is the
> >reason why.
> >it's so much simpler just to think ISO about everything.
>
> I concur, but John referred to "stones" (arch.: 1st=14lb), hence my
> comment on the illogical nature of many imperial measurements, with
> the exception of those such as ft and in which are dozenally
> founded. A dozenal metric system based on ft and in would make a lot
> of sense, actually, but that would require transition to a dozenal
> numbering system:
>
> www.dozens.org
> www.dsgb.orbix.co.uk
>
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Re: Japanese sedans
 

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:37:28 +0100, "Dori Schmetterling"
<ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

>I looked at the site and I read one of the articles on the website "Let's
>not go metric".
>
>The more interesting-sounding one, Twelve and Ten:The Case Against the
>System of Decimalization
>could not be opened -- 'file damaged' error msg.
>
>Firstly I note you have followed the society in using a made-up word
>"dozenal". Nothing wrong with that if you can persuade the rest of the
>world to use it...

not going to happen in my lifetime.
>

>The article in question looks as though it was written some time ago and,
>even if it wasn't, manages, in my opinion, to exaggerate and to omit; it is
>self-serving after all, let's be clear about that.
>
>Just two examples:-
>
>It is true that in some countries the pound (weight) is used, but it is
>clearly derived from the metric kg and to claim otherwise is misleading.
>The 500-g pound is half a kg, not any relation to the 453-g Imperial lb.

what countries? i can't think of more than one country that still uses
the archaic pound. the rest of the world has moved on.
>
>It is true that many engineering measurements are derived from Imperial.
>Not surprising since the Industrial Revolution began in Britain. But you
>try screwing an Imperial quarter-inch nut on a metric 6 mm screw!
>Related: Try giving an engineering drawing in Imperial to any European
>engineer. With what is he/she going to measure the rooms? A measuring tape
>imported from the United States or UK? Yes, in Germany there are still
>references to a Zollstock (an inch-stick or ruler) but it's only
>metaphorical.

is it actually possible that there's an engineering drawing made
anywhere in the world in anything but the ISO system? including the
USA?
>
>There were many units/measures in Europe, which are still found in the
>languages. The old French sous is one (20 old centimes, a fifth of a franc,
>IIRC) But that doesn't mean it passes an So What? test.
>
>Metric rules (outside the USA), ok?
>
>DAS

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to find me

Re: Japanese sedans
 

I was in a store the other day to buy some fiberglass cloth,
The package stated the cloth was .2 x .2 meters. That meant
nothing to me. So I took the package to the clerk who gave me
as quizzical look and took the package to the store manager who
guessed it might be 12" square. That was after 5 minutes playing with his calculator.

Funny, I can get a picture in my mind of 12" square but not
of .2 meters square.

"Jim..." wrote:
> not going to happen in my lifetime.

> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:37:28 +0100, "Dori Schmetterling"
> <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >I looked at the site and I read one of the articles on the website "Let's
> >not go metric".

Re: Japanese sedans
 

Wooduuuward wrote:
>
> I was in a store the other day to buy some fiberglass cloth,
> The package stated the cloth was .2 x .2 meters. That meant
> nothing to me. So I took the package to the clerk who gave me
> as quizzical look and took the package to the store manager who
> guessed it might be 12" square. That was after 5 minutes playing with his calculator.
>
> Funny, I can get a picture in my mind of 12" square but not
> of .2 meters square.

Except that 0.2m (20cm) = 8".

What I'm struggling to understand is why the store manager simply didn't
open the packet and measure it if he couldn't do the maths.

--
Scott

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