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z 01-08-2007 03:51 PM

length of lower control arms
 
Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?


jim beam 01-08-2007 08:56 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
z wrote:
> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>

you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.

jim beam 01-08-2007 08:56 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
z wrote:
> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>

you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.

jim beam 01-08-2007 08:56 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
z wrote:
> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>

you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.

Tegger 01-08-2007 09:36 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> z wrote:
>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>

> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>



Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.

--
Tegger

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Tegger 01-08-2007 09:36 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> z wrote:
>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>

> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>



Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 01-08-2007 09:36 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> z wrote:
>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>

> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>



Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jim beam 01-08-2007 10:52 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>> z wrote:
>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>

>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
>> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>

>
>
> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>

how is that?

jim beam 01-08-2007 10:52 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>> z wrote:
>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>

>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
>> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>

>
>
> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>

how is that?

jim beam 01-08-2007 10:52 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>> z wrote:
>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>

>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
>> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>

>
>
> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>

how is that?

Unquestionably Confused 01-08-2007 10:57 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
jim beam wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
>> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>>
>>> z wrote:
>>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>>
>>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
>>> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>>

> how is that?



Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of
those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing
assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces.
Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the
forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the axle.
Bad ju ju!


Unquestionably Confused 01-08-2007 10:57 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
jim beam wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
>> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>>
>>> z wrote:
>>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>>
>>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
>>> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>>

> how is that?



Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of
those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing
assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces.
Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the
forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the axle.
Bad ju ju!


Unquestionably Confused 01-08-2007 10:57 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
jim beam wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
>> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>>
>>> z wrote:
>>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>>
>>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if you
>>> want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>>

> how is that?



Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of
those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing
assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces.
Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the
forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the axle.
Bad ju ju!


jim beam 01-08-2007 11:08 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
>>> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>>>
>>>> z wrote:
>>>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>>>
>>>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if
>>>> you want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>>>

>> how is that?

>
>
> Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of
> those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing
> assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces.
> Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the
> forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the axle.
> Bad ju ju!
>

ok, but:
1. the wheel is already offset from the center line of the bearing anyway.
2. normal spacers aren't going to make a lot of difference - unusual to
go much more than 10mm.
3. it's all relative. the op is lowering and presumably "racing".
bearings take a hit in this situation anyway. literally if the car is
lowered too much and the car's riding on the bump stops.

jim beam 01-08-2007 11:08 PM

Re: length of lower control arms
 
Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in news:KI-
>>> dnY16HM3Qaz_YnZ2dnUVZ_uyknZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>>>
>>>> z wrote:
>>>>> Speaking of lower rear control arms for a 92 civic sedan, does anybody
>>>>> know which of the aftermarket replacements are stock length, and which
>>>>> are shorter for camber improvement with lowered suspension?
>>>>>
>>>> you use adjustable upper arms, not lower. readily available. if
>>>> you want the wheel track wider, use spacers on the hubs.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which will quickly eat up the wheel bearings.
>>>

>> how is that?

>
>
> Just a wild guess but I imagine moving the weight to the outside of
> those bearing is going to play hell with them. The axle/bearing
> assembly is designed with the weight centered on the bearing surfaces.
> Move it in or out and you concentrate the weight (not to mention the
> forces inflicted on the wheel by uneven terrain) on the end of the axle.
> Bad ju ju!
>

ok, but:
1. the wheel is already offset from the center line of the bearing anyway.
2. normal spacers aren't going to make a lot of difference - unusual to
go much more than 10mm.
3. it's all relative. the op is lowering and presumably "racing".
bearings take a hit in this situation anyway. literally if the car is
lowered too much and the car's riding on the bump stops.


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