Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
05-01-2007, 05:20 PM
#1
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Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
Hi all,
Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there any
common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era Accord
but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there any
common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era Accord
but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
05-01-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
One thing I noticed on this car; one of the A/C lines that runs vertically
between the rad and the engine was coated in a thick layer of some kind of
greenish grease.. I couldn't tell if it was a green liquid that had picked
up dirt over time, or if whatever it was was like that to begin with.. Any
idea what that might be?
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
05-01-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
One thing I noticed on this car; one of the A/C lines that runs vertically
between the rad and the engine was coated in a thick layer of some kind of
greenish grease.. I couldn't tell if it was a green liquid that had picked
up dirt over time, or if whatever it was was like that to begin with.. Any
idea what that might be?
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
05-02-2007, 07:33 AM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and my
nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
G-Man
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
G-Man
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
05-02-2007, 07:33 AM
#5
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and my
nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
G-Man
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
G-Man
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
05-02-2007, 10:02 AM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
On Tue, 01 May 2007 23:01:20 +0000, JM wrote:
>
> One thing I noticed on this car; one of the A/C lines that runs vertically
> between the rad and the engine was coated in a thick layer of some kind of
> greenish grease.. I couldn't tell if it was a green liquid that had picked
> up dirt over time, or if whatever it was was like that to begin with..
> Any idea what that might be?
Was it a Japanese Honda, or US. I'm betting it was Japanese, and they
coated the lines with Cosmoline (or something similar) to keep them from
corroding.
They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped from
Japan because the marine environment would corrode different parts. I had
a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny thing was, the car
was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the dealer!
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The
>> car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of
>> horror stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this
>> era Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>>
>
> One thing I noticed on this car; one of the A/C lines that runs vertically
> between the rad and the engine was coated in a thick layer of some kind of
> greenish grease.. I couldn't tell if it was a green liquid that had picked
> up dirt over time, or if whatever it was was like that to begin with..
> Any idea what that might be?
Was it a Japanese Honda, or US. I'm betting it was Japanese, and they
coated the lines with Cosmoline (or something similar) to keep them from
corroding.
They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped from
Japan because the marine environment would corrode different parts. I had
a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny thing was, the car
was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the dealer!
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The
>> car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of
>> horror stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this
>> era Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>>
05-02-2007, 10:02 AM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
On Tue, 01 May 2007 23:01:20 +0000, JM wrote:
>
> One thing I noticed on this car; one of the A/C lines that runs vertically
> between the rad and the engine was coated in a thick layer of some kind of
> greenish grease.. I couldn't tell if it was a green liquid that had picked
> up dirt over time, or if whatever it was was like that to begin with..
> Any idea what that might be?
Was it a Japanese Honda, or US. I'm betting it was Japanese, and they
coated the lines with Cosmoline (or something similar) to keep them from
corroding.
They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped from
Japan because the marine environment would corrode different parts. I had
a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny thing was, the car
was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the dealer!
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The
>> car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of
>> horror stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this
>> era Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>>
>
> One thing I noticed on this car; one of the A/C lines that runs vertically
> between the rad and the engine was coated in a thick layer of some kind of
> greenish grease.. I couldn't tell if it was a green liquid that had picked
> up dirt over time, or if whatever it was was like that to begin with..
> Any idea what that might be?
Was it a Japanese Honda, or US. I'm betting it was Japanese, and they
coated the lines with Cosmoline (or something similar) to keep them from
corroding.
They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped from
Japan because the marine environment would corrode different parts. I had
a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny thing was, the car
was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the dealer!
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The
>> car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of
>> horror stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this
>> era Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>>
05-02-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote in news:hS0_h.6913$dy2.6767@trndny01:
>
> They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped
> from Japan because the marine environment would corrode different
> parts. I had a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny
> thing was, the car was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the
> dealer!
So was mine. But the coating isn't actually Cosmoline. Cosmoline melts very
readily in the sun, and is not suitable for coating a car that's left in
the weather.
When I saw my car for the first time in 1991, I was sorely disappointed.
Not only was there that lumpy, dull coating on it, but it was streaked with
dirt from weeks at sea. Looked pretty forlorn and drab. It had come off the
boat just a few days before.
The next week, when I took delivery, they had cleaned it all off, and the
car was absolutely transformed into a sparkling jewel.
--
Tegger
wrote in news:hS0_h.6913$dy2.6767@trndny01:
>
> They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped
> from Japan because the marine environment would corrode different
> parts. I had a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny
> thing was, the car was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the
> dealer!
So was mine. But the coating isn't actually Cosmoline. Cosmoline melts very
readily in the sun, and is not suitable for coating a car that's left in
the weather.
When I saw my car for the first time in 1991, I was sorely disappointed.
Not only was there that lumpy, dull coating on it, but it was streaked with
dirt from weeks at sea. Looked pretty forlorn and drab. It had come off the
boat just a few days before.
The next week, when I took delivery, they had cleaned it all off, and the
car was absolutely transformed into a sparkling jewel.
--
Tegger
05-02-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote in news:hS0_h.6913$dy2.6767@trndny01:
>
> They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped
> from Japan because the marine environment would corrode different
> parts. I had a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny
> thing was, the car was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the
> dealer!
So was mine. But the coating isn't actually Cosmoline. Cosmoline melts very
readily in the sun, and is not suitable for coating a car that's left in
the weather.
When I saw my car for the first time in 1991, I was sorely disappointed.
Not only was there that lumpy, dull coating on it, but it was streaked with
dirt from weeks at sea. Looked pretty forlorn and drab. It had come off the
boat just a few days before.
The next week, when I took delivery, they had cleaned it all off, and the
car was absolutely transformed into a sparkling jewel.
--
Tegger
wrote in news:hS0_h.6913$dy2.6767@trndny01:
>
> They used to use Cosmolime on EVERYTHING when the cars were shipped
> from Japan because the marine environment would corrode different
> parts. I had a Toyota clutch cylinder fail because of this. Funny
> thing was, the car was covered with Cosmoline when it arrived at the
> dealer!
So was mine. But the coating isn't actually Cosmoline. Cosmoline melts very
readily in the sun, and is not suitable for coating a car that's left in
the weather.
When I saw my car for the first time in 1991, I was sorely disappointed.
Not only was there that lumpy, dull coating on it, but it was streaked with
dirt from weeks at sea. Looked pretty forlorn and drab. It had come off the
boat just a few days before.
The next week, when I took delivery, they had cleaned it all off, and the
car was absolutely transformed into a sparkling jewel.
--
Tegger
05-02-2007, 09:16 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
My wife has this same vehicle (with an automatic transmission), can someone
explain what the "EGR kit" is. She has had a check engine light with a code
that indicated a fault in the EGR system.
Al
Bottoms Up Divers
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:133gtp66g5ojtb7@news.supernews.com...
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and
> my nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>
>
> G-Man
>
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
>> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
>> Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>
>
explain what the "EGR kit" is. She has had a check engine light with a code
that indicated a fault in the EGR system.
Al
Bottoms Up Divers
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:133gtp66g5ojtb7@news.supernews.com...
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and
> my nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>
>
> G-Man
>
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
>> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
>> Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>
>
05-02-2007, 09:16 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
My wife has this same vehicle (with an automatic transmission), can someone
explain what the "EGR kit" is. She has had a check engine light with a code
that indicated a fault in the EGR system.
Al
Bottoms Up Divers
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:133gtp66g5ojtb7@news.supernews.com...
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and
> my nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>
>
> G-Man
>
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
>> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
>> Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>
>
explain what the "EGR kit" is. She has had a check engine light with a code
that indicated a fault in the EGR system.
Al
Bottoms Up Divers
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:133gtp66g5ojtb7@news.supernews.com...
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and
> my nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>
>
> G-Man
>
>
> "JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
> news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
>> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
>> any
>> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
>> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
>> Accord
>> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>>
>>
>
>
05-03-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
On May 2, 8:33 am, "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and my
> nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>From what I've been able to learn online, it sounds like that was only
for the V6 model...? If not what's involved in the kit?
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and my
> nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>From what I've been able to learn online, it sounds like that was only
for the V6 model...? If not what's involved in the kit?
05-03-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
On May 2, 8:33 am, "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and my
> nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>From what I've been able to learn online, it sounds like that was only
for the V6 model...? If not what's involved in the kit?
> Make sure the EGR kit was installed. I sold my 2001 with 145k on it, and my
> nephew has it now and it's got 160+ on it and still going strong!
>From what I've been able to learn online, it sounds like that was only
for the V6 model...? If not what's involved in the kit?
05-05-2007, 08:54 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
We have a 2001 Accord, 5 speed and 4 cylinder but it is a 4 door.
One thing to look for, if you are aver 6' tall, is ergonomics. I'm 6'1" and
I find that ours is an ergonomic nightmare. There is a little drawer on
the dash just inside the door that my knee catches on. When I adjust the
steering wheel so it is confortable to drive, I can't see the speedometer.
If the drivers door is wide open and I am in the driver's seat and set to
go, I almost have to get out to close the door.
On the other hand, my wife is 5'0" and she loves it.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, with less than 90000 km on the car, we
have replaced the engine and the front end...
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
One thing to look for, if you are aver 6' tall, is ergonomics. I'm 6'1" and
I find that ours is an ergonomic nightmare. There is a little drawer on
the dash just inside the door that my knee catches on. When I adjust the
steering wheel so it is confortable to drive, I can't see the speedometer.
If the drivers door is wide open and I am in the driver's seat and set to
go, I almost have to get out to close the door.
On the other hand, my wife is 5'0" and she loves it.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, with less than 90000 km on the car, we
have replaced the engine and the front end...
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
05-05-2007, 08:54 PM
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Re: Looking at 2001 Accord, any common things to look out for?
We have a 2001 Accord, 5 speed and 4 cylinder but it is a 4 door.
One thing to look for, if you are aver 6' tall, is ergonomics. I'm 6'1" and
I find that ours is an ergonomic nightmare. There is a little drawer on
the dash just inside the door that my knee catches on. When I adjust the
steering wheel so it is confortable to drive, I can't see the speedometer.
If the drivers door is wide open and I am in the driver's seat and set to
go, I almost have to get out to close the door.
On the other hand, my wife is 5'0" and she loves it.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, with less than 90000 km on the car, we
have replaced the engine and the front end...
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
One thing to look for, if you are aver 6' tall, is ergonomics. I'm 6'1" and
I find that ours is an ergonomic nightmare. There is a little drawer on
the dash just inside the door that my knee catches on. When I adjust the
steering wheel so it is confortable to drive, I can't see the speedometer.
If the drivers door is wide open and I am in the driver's seat and set to
go, I almost have to get out to close the door.
On the other hand, my wife is 5'0" and she loves it.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, with less than 90000 km on the car, we
have replaced the engine and the front end...
"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:LaOZh.372$Pg4.5107@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi all,
>
> Looking at an '01 Accord Coupe EX (manual trans) w/ 110,000 km. The car
> appears to be in excellent shape, and seems to work well, but are there
> any
> common things I should look for or be aware of? I've read lots of horror
> stories about people replacing their trans 3 and 4 times in this era
> Accord
> but they all seem to be the automatics and not the manual shift.
>
>
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