Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

THE PILOT SEATS 8 PEOPLE



"Bob Burns" <rlburns@uplink.net> wrote in message
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> I thought they were the same car, with only trim differences.
>
> --
> Bob Burns
> Mill Hall PA
> email rlburns@uplink.net
>
>
> "Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com...
> > I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
> > MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
> > the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
> > has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
> > are countless out there that drive them.
> >
> > You make it sound as though I've just committed some great sin
> > recommending the MDX over the Pilot. Even in www.honda-pilot.org, of
> > which I'm a member and frequent contributor, I've always said that I'd
> > get an MDX over the Pilot if I could've afforded it. Quite a few
> > concurred.
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:07:16 GMT, "Mark" <mark@particlesalad.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >You're recommending the MDX, even though the Pilot has better safety
> > >ratings??
> > >
> > >"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
> > >news:cuidmvo6cgn1hc6flu2erk2km1m3fldmua@4ax.com.. .
> > >> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:54:15 GMT, "WKH" <spamme@spam.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >i am looking for a 7 passengers SUV
> > >> >
> > >> >I wonder which one is better MDX or Pilot?? I am totally new to
SUV...
> > >> >
> > >> >Is there any other SUV that can seat 7 passengers?
> > >> >
> > >> >thanks for your informations
> > >>
> > >> If you can afford the MDX, go for it. I have a Pilot, but if I had
> > >> just a bit more cash for a downpayment, I would've went for the MDX.
> > >> Don't get me wrong, my Pilot is a fine vehicle, but hey, if you can
> > >> afford to drive an Acura, why not? Plus, my Pilot just got higher
> > >> roll-over safety ratings than the MDX according to the NHTSA,
> > >> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/2003SUVs.html.
> > >>
> > >> Go check out www.honda-pilot.org and www.acuramdx.org for discussions
> > >> on pros and cons of buying one or the other. You can always ask more
> > >> questions after you read up on some of the threads of discussions on
> > >> your inquiry. Good luck!
>
>

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.

That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
that way.

"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com...
> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
> are countless out there that drive them.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.

That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
that way.

"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com...
> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
> are countless out there that drive them.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.

That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
that way.

"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com...
> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
> are countless out there that drive them.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

"Romy Beeck" <romy@excel.net> wrote in
news:vmgo2m6pihcd74@corp.supernews.com:

> THE PILOT SEATS 8 PEOPLE
>
>
>
> "Bob Burns" <rlburns@uplink.net> wrote in message
> news:T%X9b.26903$Aq2.9039@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> I thought they were the same car, with only trim differences.
>>


I took a short ride in the '03 Pilot the other day. It is surprisingly
luxurious (for a truck) with the better trim models, has a DVD player etc.
I believe it is made by Isuzu.


You should take a test drive of both vehicles before you decide.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

"Romy Beeck" <romy@excel.net> wrote in
news:vmgo2m6pihcd74@corp.supernews.com:

> THE PILOT SEATS 8 PEOPLE
>
>
>
> "Bob Burns" <rlburns@uplink.net> wrote in message
> news:T%X9b.26903$Aq2.9039@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> I thought they were the same car, with only trim differences.
>>


I took a short ride in the '03 Pilot the other day. It is surprisingly
luxurious (for a truck) with the better trim models, has a DVD player etc.
I believe it is made by Isuzu.


You should take a test drive of both vehicles before you decide.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

"Romy Beeck" <romy@excel.net> wrote in
news:vmgo2m6pihcd74@corp.supernews.com:

> THE PILOT SEATS 8 PEOPLE
>
>
>
> "Bob Burns" <rlburns@uplink.net> wrote in message
> news:T%X9b.26903$Aq2.9039@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> I thought they were the same car, with only trim differences.
>>


I took a short ride in the '03 Pilot the other day. It is surprisingly
luxurious (for a truck) with the better trim models, has a DVD player etc.
I believe it is made by Isuzu.


You should take a test drive of both vehicles before you decide.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

Hi,
Even safest car in the world won't help if stupid driver drives it.
Tony

Mark wrote:

> I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
> safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
>
> That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
> that way.
>
> "Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com...
>
>>I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
>>MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
>>the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
>>has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
>>are countless out there that drive them.
>
>
>

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

Hi,
Even safest car in the world won't help if stupid driver drives it.
Tony

Mark wrote:

> I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
> safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
>
> That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
> that way.
>
> "Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com...
>
>>I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
>>MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
>>the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
>>has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
>>are countless out there that drive them.
>
>
>

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

Hi,
Even safest car in the world won't help if stupid driver drives it.
Tony

Mark wrote:

> I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
> safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
>
> That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
> that way.
>
> "Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com...
>
>>I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
>>MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
>>the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
>>has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
>>are countless out there that drive them.
>
>
>

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

So then, is your car absolutely the SAFEST rated car out there then?
I didn't think so.

But, if you were so much concerned about the safety of your family, so
much more so than all the SUV buyers as you have claimed, then
wouldn't you buy a car out there with the SAFEST rating, with all the
latest passenger protection features, such as the side and ceiling air
curtains, the side impact airbags, the anti-rollover systems, the
anti-skil control system and etc?

Does your car have all those features? No? Oh, how come????
Wouldn't you be driving your family in a car with all those safety
features since you said you were so concerned with your family's
safety? Would this mean then, that you care less about your family's
safety than those people who are indeed driving around in a car with
all those safety features I mentioned? By your logic and claim, yes,
it would make you to be a less caring father and husband since you're
not driving a car equipped with ALL those safety features.

Hard to argue with that, right? After all, it's your own logic and
implication you expressed yourself.

Lemme teach you something. You see, sarcasm only works when you're in
the right. SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS though, will always make you out to
look like an idiot. You're right about one thing though, you are
ing weird.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:59:57 GMT, "Mark" <mark@particlesalad.com>
wrote:

>I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
>safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
>
>That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
>that way.
>
>"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
>news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com.. .
>> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
>> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
>> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
>> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
>> are countless out there that drive them.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

So then, is your car absolutely the SAFEST rated car out there then?
I didn't think so.

But, if you were so much concerned about the safety of your family, so
much more so than all the SUV buyers as you have claimed, then
wouldn't you buy a car out there with the SAFEST rating, with all the
latest passenger protection features, such as the side and ceiling air
curtains, the side impact airbags, the anti-rollover systems, the
anti-skil control system and etc?

Does your car have all those features? No? Oh, how come????
Wouldn't you be driving your family in a car with all those safety
features since you said you were so concerned with your family's
safety? Would this mean then, that you care less about your family's
safety than those people who are indeed driving around in a car with
all those safety features I mentioned? By your logic and claim, yes,
it would make you to be a less caring father and husband since you're
not driving a car equipped with ALL those safety features.

Hard to argue with that, right? After all, it's your own logic and
implication you expressed yourself.

Lemme teach you something. You see, sarcasm only works when you're in
the right. SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS though, will always make you out to
look like an idiot. You're right about one thing though, you are
ing weird.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:59:57 GMT, "Mark" <mark@particlesalad.com>
wrote:

>I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
>safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
>
>That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
>that way.
>
>"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
>news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com.. .
>> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
>> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
>> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
>> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
>> are countless out there that drive them.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

So then, is your car absolutely the SAFEST rated car out there then?
I didn't think so.

But, if you were so much concerned about the safety of your family, so
much more so than all the SUV buyers as you have claimed, then
wouldn't you buy a car out there with the SAFEST rating, with all the
latest passenger protection features, such as the side and ceiling air
curtains, the side impact airbags, the anti-rollover systems, the
anti-skil control system and etc?

Does your car have all those features? No? Oh, how come????
Wouldn't you be driving your family in a car with all those safety
features since you said you were so concerned with your family's
safety? Would this mean then, that you care less about your family's
safety than those people who are indeed driving around in a car with
all those safety features I mentioned? By your logic and claim, yes,
it would make you to be a less caring father and husband since you're
not driving a car equipped with ALL those safety features.

Hard to argue with that, right? After all, it's your own logic and
implication you expressed yourself.

Lemme teach you something. You see, sarcasm only works when you're in
the right. SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS though, will always make you out to
look like an idiot. You're right about one thing though, you are
ing weird.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:59:57 GMT, "Mark" <mark@particlesalad.com>
wrote:

>I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
>safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
>
>That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm wierd
>that way.
>
>"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
>news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com.. .
>> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
>> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
>> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
>> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
>> are countless out there that drive them.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

Wow, Steve, looks like I struck a nerve. Sorry.

The truth is, some people put safety as a high priority, some people don't.
That's called making a choice, Steve.

Given the choice of two vehicles in the same class, one which offers better
safety than the other, the choice would be pretty simple to me. But hey,
like I said, I'm wierd that way, I value safety (and fuel economy) above
other aspects. Yes, by the way, I DO own the safest vehicle in my car's
class, thank you for asking.

Yes, the quip I made was a little silly, though there certainly is some
truth in it... if safety is that important to people, with a few exceptions,
they wouldn't buy SUVs. Now, some people are willing to take the chance
that something bad will not happen to them... and odds are, that's a good
bet. On the other hand, I choose differently.

Again, I apologize for hitting a nerve... but you really shouldn't let
someone's opinion get you in such a froth. Cheers.

"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
news:f2ehmv4raraao0v8v2h0s5v880qr8fh8ur@4ax.com...
> So then, is your car absolutely the SAFEST rated car out there then?
> I didn't think so.
>
> But, if you were so much concerned about the safety of your family, so
> much more so than all the SUV buyers as you have claimed, then
> wouldn't you buy a car out there with the SAFEST rating, with all the
> latest passenger protection features, such as the side and ceiling air
> curtains, the side impact airbags, the anti-rollover systems, the
> anti-skil control system and etc?
>
> Does your car have all those features? No? Oh, how come????
> Wouldn't you be driving your family in a car with all those safety
> features since you said you were so concerned with your family's
> safety? Would this mean then, that you care less about your family's
> safety than those people who are indeed driving around in a car with
> all those safety features I mentioned? By your logic and claim, yes,
> it would make you to be a less caring father and husband since you're
> not driving a car equipped with ALL those safety features.
>
> Hard to argue with that, right? After all, it's your own logic and
> implication you expressed yourself.
>
> Lemme teach you something. You see, sarcasm only works when you're in
> the right. SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS though, will always make you out to
> look like an idiot. You're right about one thing though, you are
> ing weird.
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:59:57 GMT, "Mark" <mark@particlesalad.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
> >safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
> >
> >That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm
wierd
> >that way.
> >
> >"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
> >news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com.. .
> >> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
> >> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
> >> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
> >> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
> >> are countless out there that drive them.

Re: MDX or Pilot??
 

Wow, Steve, looks like I struck a nerve. Sorry.

The truth is, some people put safety as a high priority, some people don't.
That's called making a choice, Steve.

Given the choice of two vehicles in the same class, one which offers better
safety than the other, the choice would be pretty simple to me. But hey,
like I said, I'm wierd that way, I value safety (and fuel economy) above
other aspects. Yes, by the way, I DO own the safest vehicle in my car's
class, thank you for asking.

Yes, the quip I made was a little silly, though there certainly is some
truth in it... if safety is that important to people, with a few exceptions,
they wouldn't buy SUVs. Now, some people are willing to take the chance
that something bad will not happen to them... and odds are, that's a good
bet. On the other hand, I choose differently.

Again, I apologize for hitting a nerve... but you really shouldn't let
someone's opinion get you in such a froth. Cheers.

"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
news:f2ehmv4raraao0v8v2h0s5v880qr8fh8ur@4ax.com...
> So then, is your car absolutely the SAFEST rated car out there then?
> I didn't think so.
>
> But, if you were so much concerned about the safety of your family, so
> much more so than all the SUV buyers as you have claimed, then
> wouldn't you buy a car out there with the SAFEST rating, with all the
> latest passenger protection features, such as the side and ceiling air
> curtains, the side impact airbags, the anti-rollover systems, the
> anti-skil control system and etc?
>
> Does your car have all those features? No? Oh, how come????
> Wouldn't you be driving your family in a car with all those safety
> features since you said you were so concerned with your family's
> safety? Would this mean then, that you care less about your family's
> safety than those people who are indeed driving around in a car with
> all those safety features I mentioned? By your logic and claim, yes,
> it would make you to be a less caring father and husband since you're
> not driving a car equipped with ALL those safety features.
>
> Hard to argue with that, right? After all, it's your own logic and
> implication you expressed yourself.
>
> Lemme teach you something. You see, sarcasm only works when you're in
> the right. SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS though, will always make you out to
> look like an idiot. You're right about one thing though, you are
> ing weird.
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:59:57 GMT, "Mark" <mark@particlesalad.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I guess you're right... chances are, if people are really intrested in
> >safety, they wouldn't usually buy an SUV to begin with.
> >
> >That said, safety IS very important for me and my family, but hey, I'm
wierd
> >that way.
> >
> >"Steve Lee" <hate@spam.com> wrote in message
> >news:brifmv0ka431gfk0sv8jb7utfauk4u524j@4ax.com.. .
> >> I guess I am. But it's not as though there's a hug disparity between
> >> MDX's and Pilot's safety ratings. Would you agree? Very marginal at
> >> the most. There are people out there who recommend other SUV's which
> >> has far inferior safety ratings over the Pilot and worse yet, there
> >> are countless out there that drive them.